this game is insanely unbalanced

[fdhzs2010]

I was playing white beard episode and akainu gave me half of my hp damage. this makes the same impossible since i will always have to hit the opponent first such that those special moves are useless.

how do you think?

[Goughy]

Have fun fighting aokiji with jozu, he breaks your diamond form in 1 hit, and can kill you in 2...

[Tyler]

Originally posted by Goughy:

Have fun fighting aokiji with jozu, he breaks your diamond form in 1 hit, and can kill you in 2...

spam his guard break while in diamond form.

takes like 30% of his health on each hit

Originally posted by fdhzs2010:

Originally posted by Tyler:

well they were just trying to make it like the real story.

just use cheap tactics to get around it.

if that's the case how fun the game can be?

1 normal combo 50% hp no recovery, no game will do that. i fought akainu using ace, that's the worse fight. the only thing i can do was dodging then attacking since i was so afraid of getting hit by him once.

well i find those fights more annoying that fun, but then again this is a fighting game so the story isn't the main thing to be playing.

[Goughy]

Tried that method, literally takes 2% on each hit... it's just a grind fight, makes it soooooo dull.

[Tyler]

Originally posted by Goughy:

Tried that method, literally takes 2% on each hit... it's just a grind fight, makes it soooooo dull.

his y+b takes off way more than 2%

[Goughy]

Sorry like 4%,it's about the same as his lb + x. I do like luffy though, use his rb+a to dodge evrything and get close, go second gear, then max gum gum gattling, followed by bazooka, rinse and repeat.

[Malxrange]

Moria nuff said

[xindex]

is easy...

[SunEarthMewsic]

Originally posted by fdhzs2010:

not sure whether you guys have tried. i just use aokiji vs marco. it's insane. 2 combos mean dead for sure. and the opponent acts so fast and the gauge recharges so slow i can't deal with him. and there is no way to escape a combo. it's absolutely insane. this game sucks.

Ground combos can be broken out of. You press attack + unique repeatedly I believe. That's how I did it in the vita version and I could reproduce it in the pc version. If you are comboed into the air or from the air, you are screwed.

By the way, this is in no way an insult, but it's going to sound that way no matter how it is phrased. This game is meant to be difficult as hell and repeated multiple times. Don't expect your hand to be held with an easy 1HKO combo.

You will have to repeat certains fights over and over to find strategies to win. One of the missions where you have to fight all 3 admirals back to back with 1 life bar, I had to repeat that battle ~20 times before I finally got it.

This game is a challenge and that's what makes it fun. If you think a game is terrible because it is beating your ass repeatedly, keep on trying until you beat it.

[Tyler]

Originally posted by Goughy:

Sorry like 4%,it's about the same as his lb + x. I do like luffy though, use his rb+a to dodge evrything and get close, go second gear, then max gum gum gattling, followed by bazooka, rinse and repeat.

doing 20-30% for me when it hits

though the cpus like to jump to avoid it.

[fdhzs2010]

Originally posted by Codester:

Originally posted by fdhzs2010:

not sure whether you guys have tried. i just use aokiji vs marco. it's insane. 2 combos mean dead for sure. and the opponent acts so fast and the gauge recharges so slow i can't deal with him. and there is no way to escape a combo. it's absolutely insane. this game sucks.

"I'm bad at this game therefore it sucks!"

nah. i am not bad at any combat games. but game sucks due to the unbalance. of course the game is the one to blame. how reasonable is 2 set of combos = death? it's boss fight all the time.

[fdhzs2010]

Originally posted by 8-Bit Beavers:

I have managed to, in less than 3 hours of playtime, beat the story and all the EX missions. It doesn't take too much time. Some of the fights, like the Ace vs. Akainu one, are pretty stupid, but I just kept throwing myself at it until I got it.

I started to utilize logia movement, forced myself not to logia guard when it meant I would get hit and just regular guard instead, attacked when they tried to Heavy Guard Break, etc. There wasn't one magic thing I did to beat all of the missions, but being really aggressive tended to work most of the time.

I'm glad the rest of it isn't like that, kind of. I tried one of the limited time Wanted posters. They, too, seem to have some absurd damage on them. But it's just damage, it isn't like they're always 100% button reading, combo fiends. It's not the best way to make something difficult, but it isn't too bad to get around, either.

no it's not difficult. as i said, there are always ways to work it out. in this game, the best strategy is to guard and wait for a good timing to fire the basic combo and that's it.

for those special moves, either they take too long to fire, or not possible to measure distance due to the bad camera angles(ace's fire fist is a good example. no way to know how far the fire ball travels). then the game is reduced to guard and combo and so on. this is boring. it's not very helpful. the system is not good enough to make the game play fluent and flexible and that's the biggest problem. clearing the game is not the ultimate goal of it.

[fdhzs2010]

Originally posted by Rizing:

Originally posted by fdhzs2010:

not sure whether you guys have tried. i just use aokiji vs marco. it's insane. 2 combos mean dead for sure. and the opponent acts so fast and the gauge recharges so slow i can't deal with him. and there is no way to escape a combo. it's absolutely insane. this game sucks.

Ground combos can be broken out of. You press attack + unique repeatedly I believe. That's how I did it in the vita version and I could reproduce it in the pc version. If you are comboed into the air or from the air, you are screwed.

By the way, this is in no way an insult, but it's going to sound that way no matter how it is phrased. This game is meant to be difficult as hell and repeated multiple times. Don't expect your hand to be held with an easy 1HKO combo.

You will have to repeat certains fights over and over to find strategies to win. One of the missions where you have to fight all 3 admirals back to back with 1 life bar, I had to repeat that battle ~20 times before I finally got it.

This game is a challenge and that's what makes it fun. If you think a game is terrible because it is beating your ass repeatedly, keep on trying until you beat it.

i am afraid not. i see no reason to escalate the power of com to a different level from the player's such that the player has hard time to enjoy the fight.

a fight in fighting games is very ephemeral since situation changes so rapidly that one always needs to react on spot and that makes the game fun. so fairness is very important. also the camera angle is important too since i have hard time measuring the range of my attack.

also this game is not meant to be difficult like hell. all difficult like hell fighting games have sophisticated systems, e.g. street fighters, tekken, etc. these games are meant to be difficult and consume massive time on practicing combos. this game? no way. the system is extremely simple and minimum. it's for casual entertainment, for fans, for trivial time killing. this also leads to a result that your "strategies" can only be dead simple, something like logia guard while being attacked, running away for a while before the logia energy fully recharged, dodge aside and combo, together with some character specific observation to predict what's the opponent's next move.

so my conclusion is the game is unbalanced like hell according to my boring boring episode game play.

[Der Weiße Ritter der Tafel]

Originally posted by fdhzs2010:

Originally posted by Tyler:

well they were just trying to make it like the real story.

just use cheap tactics to get around it.

if that's the case how fun the game can be?

1 normal combo 50% hp no recovery, no game will do that. i fought akainu using ace, that's the worse fight. the only thing i can do was dodging then attacking since i was so afraid of getting hit by him once.

i completed that but try fight whitebeard vs akainu and see if you suvive 1 minute

[Der Weiße Ritter der Tafel]

Originally posted by HDFA:

Even though beating some of those extra chapters are hard e.g marco vs aokjij, I was still able to complete it with a keyboard, not controller so guys should be able to do it as well

how? the default keyboard buttons are confusing

[DarcosAce]

well im for sure not a Beat em up pro but i did it in 1 day. For me was the Hardest fight on Whitebeard story the Special Mission with Jozu vs Aokiji