How do I beat the Serpent Queen

[MTQ1984]

I fight her, I get her down to like two-thirds, then she starts floating around and summoning blue fire from the ground. What do I do? I've tried the bow, and I see that depletes her, like, aura-thing that surrounds her. However she just regenerates it faster than I can deplete it. What am I not doing right? I've tried Nature's Bow and that stops her momentarily, but I can't get up to her. I've also tried Pirate's Leap. It's either impossible to reach her or I'm messing up my jumps. Which is it? I've also tried destroying that stone disk in the center of the arena that lets her regain power, but nothing has come of it. I feel like I've tried everything. What do I do?

[bye]

You have to use meditation (keep O/B pressed) the moment the surge of iddhi (balls of light) happens.

[Wabaa]

I just kept pogo jumping like shovel knight on her head during her floating phase it seemed to work though i'm pretty sure that wasn't the intended method though.

[M. Abrantes]

Just hit her a couple of times with the regular bow and she'll fall on the ground again. This fight is definitely not a big deal.

[DaMonth]

I just waited for her little ship thing to lower, Nature'd her, waited for the nature to run out just as I sprang up with the spear, and hit her in the face.

[MTQ1984]

Originally posted by bye:

You have to use meditation (keep O/B pressed) the moment the surge of iddhi (balls of light) happens.

Oh man, thank you so much! I finally got through her.

[Braden]

I don't know how the hell I was supposed to guess that.

I tried meditating at the gate since it's a chakra gate, but you know, she's attacking me, so I'm not gonna keep trying that, especially when having her frozen and meditating does nothing.

Pretty solid example of the concept of Punishment, Reinforcement and Extinction in psychology.

[SnowMutt]

Originally posted by Braden:

I don't know how the hell I was supposed to guess that.

I tried meditating at the gate since it's a chakra gate, but you know, she's attacking me, so I'm not gonna keep trying that, especially when having her frozen and meditating does nothing.

Pretty solid example of the concept of Punishment, Reinforcement and Extinction in psychology.

You've just gotta observe. As she attacks, her shield weakens because she's burning that energy for her attacks. As she's trying to suck more energy out of the chakra gate, that's when you steal it; you even get a bunch of iddhi for your trouble, and then you can just shoot her down with a normal bom arrow.

[Braden]

Originally posted by SnowMutt:

Originally posted by Braden:

I don't know how the hell I was supposed to guess that.

I tried meditating at the gate since it's a chakra gate, but you know, she's attacking me, so I'm not gonna keep trying that, especially when having her frozen and meditating does nothing.

Pretty solid example of the concept of Punishment, Reinforcement and Extinction in psychology.

You've just gotta observe. As she attacks, her shield weakens because she's burning that energy for her attacks. As she's trying to suck more energy out of the chakra gate, that's when you steal it; you even get a bunch of iddhi for your trouble, and then you can just shoot her down with a normal bom arrow.

I saw iddhi occasionally fly towards me, but it seemed to happen randomly. Add the positive punishment of standing still and you have a recipe for extinction. I was being very observant, but the game communicated very poorly what I was supposed to do. So poorly that the I was Pavlov'd away from the solution. The game has unnecessary tutorial text for a lot of situations, but this is one of those times where it could have actually used it. For example, imagine an iddhi waterfall that you couldn't go into cause it's too much (like jumping into a pool of dark eco in Jak II), but you can meditate to siphon it off. Had the game had you do something like that before fighting the boss, that would have been fresh in the player's mind so they'd be more willing to experiment with it when they see iddhi flowing out of the ground.

[Nibiru]

A tutorial for this would have been excessive handholding imo. The fact that its a boss means that it should make you think out of the box in the first place.It's really not that serious,you just had to think through all your options.

[Braden]

There's a difference between a blatant tutorial and using clever level design to teach the player without them realizing. Read into nuance before insulting people who have legitimate complaints.

[Bandit]

i need a save but this game don't like using a different save

[Braden]

Originally posted by Bandit:

i need a save but this game don't like using a different save

umm, it says right on the opening screen that you can press a specific button to load a different save. In my case it's the select/menu button on my controller.

Try it.

[SnowMutt]

Originally posted by Bandit:

i need a save but this game don't like using a different save

When you're loading a file, go to your most recent slot and try tapping left or right on the d-pad. The game's not very clear in telling you, but every time you save over the same slot, it's actually still holding up to 199 previous saves behind that one, and you can rotate through them by tapping left or right.

Each slot is like a lazy susan you can turn to find that bag of chips you bought two years ago but never finished.

[Braden]

Originally posted by SnowMutt:

Originally posted by Bandit:

i need a save but this game don't like using a different save

When you're loading a file, go to your most recent slot and try tapping left or right on the d-pad. The game's not very clear in telling you, but every time you save over the same slot, it's actually still holding up to 199 previous saves behind that one, and you can rotate through them by tapping left or right.

Each slot is like a lazy susan you can turn to find that bag of chips you bought two years ago but never finished.

How did you even parse that out of that vague question? GG.

Though I disagree on the game not being clear. It tells you quite explicitly.

[FunkyBacon]

It is very confusing when everything about this level teaches you to use the snare on baddies and surfaces but completely changes it to NOT using the snare during the boss battle. Even just before the battle you have to snare the bird lady to be able to do the focus thing or she'll stop you.
So you'd think that hey, I gotta stop this boss from draining energy by using the snare so I can do the focus thing and steal her energy or something and then stuff happen that will continue the fight. Sounds logical right? But no that's completely wrong and snaring her will do nothing but delay things and is the wrong thing to do, despite the game having just demonstrated this as a vital mechanic to this level.... It's just poor game design to be honest.

If the boss shrugged off the snare or easily broke free of it then that would tell you that hey, this boss is too strong for the snare so you gotta try a different approach, and that would have been fine but the game does not do that so you you are left wondering why this is not working when the game taught you to do this.