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SnowMutt Oct 21, 2019 @ 1:42am
Baozhai Stacks
Does anyone know how Baozhai's coins stack? Like, are they cumulative throughout the battle, or do they all get dumped into the next cannon volley and reset the count back to zero? How many times do they stack and keep increasing damage before it stops being worth it to steal more?
Originally posted by Ciaran:
Baozhei works like this:
-Neutral attack steals 1 coin per hit
-The coins can stack for quite a bit, not sure on the maximum, but it can exceed 20 at least
-The coin stack carries over outside of combat, so you can stack up coins during little battles and drop the payload on a bigger target.
-The damage bonus of a coin does not stack in any way. You either have the coin buff or you don't.
-The coins work on a per-hit basis, so each individual hit of an attack will spend a coin (if you have one in stock) and then buff that individual hit of the attack.
-Down+Atk consumes 1 coin per attack to give more damage and hitstun (more time to continue the combo).
-Up+Atk consumes 1 coin per cannon shot (2 total per attack), and greatly increases damage and the hitbox. I think coin-buffed shots also break guard and launch enemies.
-The coin stack also increases the amount of coins that fly out of the chest on her 2 Iddhi super, which gives more potential ricochets from the shot if timed right. Not sure what the upper limit on this is, nor if it actually consumes any coins.
-Her 3 Iddhi super can fire off powered up cannon shots much like her normal Up+Atk, which consume coins in exactly the same manner. This super does crazy damage when fully loaded with coins.

Baozhai in general is pretty weak and has poor Iddhi meter generation, but the coin grab can be used to initiate combos against guarding enemies and her cannon volleys are absolutely devastating if powered up with coins. Some people also use her cannon volleys to cancel out enemies as they begin to move forward to attack, which is quite a clever usage, but also rather difficult to pull off depending on the enemy you're fighting.

Hope that helps!
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Minueling Oct 21, 2019 @ 2:14am 
Honestly, I've been wondering the same. All I can tell is they seem to stack more than 6, but I'd honestly love some sort of visual queue, like Dhar has with his earthen might stacks.
Minueling Oct 21, 2019 @ 3:39am 
Okay, so, I figured out that there is a visual cue, it's just harder to count the stacks. When Baozhai uses her neutral attack, coins fall out of her pouch, the amount of coins that fall out represent the number of stacks she has. My guess, when those coins stop adding, go all out.
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Ciaran Oct 21, 2019 @ 3:32pm 
Baozhei works like this:
-Neutral attack steals 1 coin per hit
-The coins can stack for quite a bit, not sure on the maximum, but it can exceed 20 at least
-The coin stack carries over outside of combat, so you can stack up coins during little battles and drop the payload on a bigger target.
-The damage bonus of a coin does not stack in any way. You either have the coin buff or you don't.
-The coins work on a per-hit basis, so each individual hit of an attack will spend a coin (if you have one in stock) and then buff that individual hit of the attack.
-Down+Atk consumes 1 coin per attack to give more damage and hitstun (more time to continue the combo).
-Up+Atk consumes 1 coin per cannon shot (2 total per attack), and greatly increases damage and the hitbox. I think coin-buffed shots also break guard and launch enemies.
-The coin stack also increases the amount of coins that fly out of the chest on her 2 Iddhi super, which gives more potential ricochets from the shot if timed right. Not sure what the upper limit on this is, nor if it actually consumes any coins.
-Her 3 Iddhi super can fire off powered up cannon shots much like her normal Up+Atk, which consume coins in exactly the same manner. This super does crazy damage when fully loaded with coins.

Baozhai in general is pretty weak and has poor Iddhi meter generation, but the coin grab can be used to initiate combos against guarding enemies and her cannon volleys are absolutely devastating if powered up with coins. Some people also use her cannon volleys to cancel out enemies as they begin to move forward to attack, which is quite a clever usage, but also rather difficult to pull off depending on the enemy you're fighting.

Hope that helps!
Last edited by Ciaran; Oct 21, 2019 @ 3:37pm
View The Phenom Oct 21, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
Worth mentioning that her level 1 super with at least one coin stocked will result in a special, skill shot version. Throw the spear through the falling coin to deal extra damage (currently just +1000 damage, but it's been buffed to 166% in the test branch).

With a better method of stacking coins, she could be really strong.
Last edited by View The Phenom; Oct 21, 2019 @ 8:01pm
SnowMutt Oct 21, 2019 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by LoliSauce:
Baozhei works like this:
-Neutral attack steals 1 coin per hit
-The coins can stack for quite a bit, not sure on the maximum, but it can exceed 20 at least
-The coin stack carries over outside of combat, so you can stack up coins during little battles and drop the payload on a bigger target.
-The damage bonus of a coin does not stack in any way. You either have the coin buff or you don't.
-The coins work on a per-hit basis, so each individual hit of an attack will spend a coin (if you have one in stock) and then buff that individual hit of the attack.
-Down+Atk consumes 1 coin per attack to give more damage and hitstun (more time to continue the combo).
-Up+Atk consumes 1 coin per cannon shot (2 total per attack), and greatly increases damage and the hitbox. I think coin-buffed shots also break guard and launch enemies.
-The coin stack also increases the amount of coins that fly out of the chest on her 2 Iddhi super, which gives more potential ricochets from the shot if timed right. Not sure what the upper limit on this is, nor if it actually consumes any coins.
-Her 3 Iddhi super can fire off powered up cannon shots much like her normal Up+Atk, which consume coins in exactly the same manner. This super does crazy damage when fully loaded with coins.

Baozhai in general is pretty weak and has poor Iddhi meter generation, but the coin grab can be used to initiate combos against guarding enemies and her cannon volleys are absolutely devastating if powered up with coins. Some people also use her cannon volleys to cancel out enemies as they begin to move forward to attack, which is quite a clever usage, but also rather difficult to pull off depending on the enemy you're fighting.

Hope that helps!
That's super good to know! In training, it DID look like damage only stacked for up to two coins and didn't seem to go higher than that- I guess this explains why that is. It's also really nice to know that you can stack up to 20 coins and that they carry over between battles. So Baozhai's coins effectively operate the same as Dhar's Earthen Fury I guess!
Fringehunter7719 Oct 22, 2019 @ 3:20am 
Baozhai's max stacks are 12, not 20+.

You can easily check by training with George. Steal as many times as you like (say 20), then fire off volleys of cannon shots, amounting to 6 shots in total.

If you don't steal again your next attack won't use coins (you can tell by the visual and sound effect played as well as the damage dealt) because you've run out regardless of how many times you used steal.
Ciaran Oct 23, 2019 @ 1:29am 
Oh, thanks Fringe! I apologize for the misinformation on the top limit for the stack. I thought for sure I'd had enough in one of my training mode test romps that I'd fired off two full rounds of 5 volleys fully buffed, but I didn't actually go in and check it before making the post.

The value of fact checking!
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