[SPOILERS PROBABLY]Y' know what is the most cruel thing to do?

[drWoof]

Delete the save data.
It's just... Cruel.
Cruel to bring Niko back in this world.
If I would want to replay this game again, I would use the . . . option I get after Solstice.
After all, all we are doing is just reusing Niko's memories, not bringing him back.
Niko deserves his childhood.

[Killer of Gems]

I have a theory about Niko.

The theory is Niko will NEVER be free. He will ALWAYS be in the game, no matter what one player will do.

Oneshot suggests to us that everytime we start the game, we are kidnapping Niko from his home reality, and throwing him into the game.

This means drWoof, that while you yourself after the Solstice ending, will no longer bring Niko back. Every time a new player starts up the game, they are kidnapping Niko.

What about the people that will start up this game but never finish it? Where does that leave Niko?

It leaves Niko in a permanent state of being kidnapped, never able to return to his home reality.

Oneshot in itself is cruel to Niko, forget the save data, just the IDEA of it, is cruel.

To top it all off, it probably doesn't matter what you do for Niko in the end, he will probably always be forced to come back, sometimes without memories. Sometimes with memories, but with another name for the "god" of the world.

And you know what I just realized? The person who made the world machine, The Author, if i'm correct, KNEW THIS when he made the darn program. Which makes The Author the true villain of the story.

He sentenced an innocent child to an endless loop of limbo that any single one player, or any one group of players, cannot stop no matter how hard they try.

The Author is the true villain of this story.

[TREETHREE]

Cruelest thing to do is edit embarassing tattoos onto the Author's three friends' decompiled sprite sheets while they're in the code portals.

[drWoof]

Originally posted by Killer of Gems:

I have a theory about Niko.

The theory is Niko will NEVER be free. He will ALWAYS be in the game, no matter what one player will do.

Oneshot suggests to us that everytime we start the game, we are kidnapping Niko from his home reality, and throwing him into the game.

This means drWoof, that while you yourself after the Solstice ending, will no longer bring Niko back. Every time a new player starts up the game, they are kidnapping Niko.

What about the people that will start up this game but never finish it? Where does that leave Niko?

It leaves Niko in a permanent state of being kidnapped, never able to return to his home reality.

Oneshot in itself is cruel to Niko, forget the save data, just the IDEA of it, is cruel.

To top it all off, it probably doesn't matter what you do for Niko in the end, he will probably always be forced to come back, sometimes without memories. Sometimes with memories, but with another name for the "god" of the world.

And you know what I just realized? The person who made the world machine, The Author, if i'm correct, KNEW THIS when he made the darn program. Which makes The Author the true villain of the story.

He sentenced an innocent child to an endless loop of limbo that any single one player, or any one group of players, cannot stop no matter how hard they try.

The Author is the true villain of this story.

Well, what if multiple people are playing the game at the same time?
Wouldn't that mean they are duplicating Niko?
Also, there was ONE World Machine, not many...
So, here's another theory, a counter-theory, if you will:
Each instance of OneShot is an alternate universe of Niko, The World Machine, and everything in OneShot.
...No, even each save data instance is an eternally existing alternate universe of OneShot and Niko.
Which, actually, is a counter point to my post - By deleting the save file of OneShot - you aren't kidnapping Niko again, or deleting his childhood.
You just allow another universe of Niko and OneShot to be created, allowing for one more bad ending to happen, allowing for one more good ending to happen.
Which means if you delete your save file of OneShot, and start another run - PLEASE, complete the run. Don't subject Niko to be stuck in a void forever, or whatever happens to him when we shut off the game.

EDIT: I'm really not a theorist, so, if you find out any flaws in my theory, and things that are contradictory to things in game - please point them out.

[PrayThunder]

THERES A NEW ENDING, TRY IT

[Killer of Gems]

Originally posted by drWoof:

Originally posted by Killer of Gems:

I have a theory about Niko.

The theory is Niko will NEVER be free. He will ALWAYS be in the game, no matter what one player will do.

Oneshot suggests to us that everytime we start the game, we are kidnapping Niko from his home reality, and throwing him into the game.

This means drWoof, that while you yourself after the Solstice ending, will no longer bring Niko back. Every time a new player starts up the game, they are kidnapping Niko.

What about the people that will start up this game but never finish it? Where does that leave Niko?

It leaves Niko in a permanent state of being kidnapped, never able to return to his home reality.

Oneshot in itself is cruel to Niko, forget the save data, just the IDEA of it, is cruel.

To top it all off, it probably doesn't matter what you do for Niko in the end, he will probably always be forced to come back, sometimes without memories. Sometimes with memories, but with another name for the "god" of the world.

And you know what I just realized? The person who made the world machine, The Author, if i'm correct, KNEW THIS when he made the darn program. Which makes The Author the true villain of the story.

He sentenced an innocent child to an endless loop of limbo that any single one player, or any one group of players, cannot stop no matter how hard they try.

The Author is the true villain of this story.

Well, what if multiple people are playing the game at the same time?
Wouldn't that mean they are duplicating Niko?
Also, there was ONE World Machine, not many...
So, here's another theory, a counter-theory, if you will:
Each instance of OneShot is an alternate universe of Niko, The World Machine, and everything in OneShot.
...No, even each save data instance is an eternally existing alternate universe of OneShot and Niko.
Which, actually, is a counter point to my post - By deleting the save file of OneShot - you aren't kidnapping Niko again, or deleting his childhood.
You just allow another universe of Niko and OneShot to be created, allowing for one more bad ending to happen, allowing for one more good ending to happen.
Which means if you delete your save file of OneShot, and start another run - PLEASE, complete the run. Don't subject Niko to be stuck in a void forever, or whatever happens to him when we shut off the game.

EDIT: I'm really not a theorist, so, if you find out any flaws in my theory, and things that are contradictory to things in game - please point them out.

I think your problem with this theory is that Niko can remember things accross saves.

Also while there is one world machine, there is one world machine PER PROGRAM.

[drWoof]

Originally posted by Killer of Gems:

Originally posted by drWoof:

Well, what if multiple people are playing the game at the same time?
Wouldn't that mean they are duplicating Niko?
Also, there was ONE World Machine, not many...
So, here's another theory, a counter-theory, if you will:
Each instance of OneShot is an alternate universe of Niko, The World Machine, and everything in OneShot.
...No, even each save data instance is an eternally existing alternate universe of OneShot and Niko.
Which, actually, is a counter point to my post - By deleting the save file of OneShot - you aren't kidnapping Niko again, or deleting his childhood.
You just allow another universe of Niko and OneShot to be created, allowing for one more bad ending to happen, allowing for one more good ending to happen.
Which means if you delete your save file of OneShot, and start another run - PLEASE, complete the run. Don't subject Niko to be stuck in a void forever, or whatever happens to him when we shut off the game.

EDIT: I'm really not a theorist, so, if you find out any flaws in my theory, and things that are contradictory to things in game - please point them out.

I think your problem with this theory is that Niko can remember things accross saves.

Also while there is one world machine, there is one world machine PER PROGRAM.

Well, while we were moving the "save data" in the documents, that wasn't the real save data, wasn't it?
The one I am talking about is the one in AppData

[drWoof]

Originally posted by PrayThunder:

THERES A NEW ENDING, TRY IT

WHAT new ending?
Solstice?

[Draith]

ya im confused if they're talking about the soltice ending or a new one entirely?

[Manchura_ Blaze]

I must know if there is another end after solstice.....wait, maybe.....oh god I think I know where that new end is going

[Draith]

hmmm where?

[Manchura_ Blaze]

Originally posted by Draith:

hmmm where?

there are a few thing that appear odd to me in the Glen, mostly with the goat puzzle having a clear audio track played by them and the bells everywhere, but if that is not what is being talked about I have no clue where this ending is

[Draith]

same we mite be wrong but its still nice to try and find easter eggs

[Manchura_ Blaze]

Originally posted by Draith:

same we mite be wrong but its still nice to try and find easter eggs

if all else fails I still love the soltice easter egg where if you pull your game screen up Niko says that they have to go and you are only prolonging how sad the goodbye is

[Draith]

if you pull a different game screen up that happens?

[Manchura_ Blaze]

Originally posted by Draith:

if you pull a different game screen up that happens?

if you leave the game screne centered or lower then center and pull it upward Niko pauses and tells you they have to go as much as both of you dont want to leave the other before continuing the treck to the bottom of your computer screen and disapearing