Resident Evil 7 Biohazard

Resident Evil 7 Biohazard

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originalcoolx 14 ENE 2018 a las 20:51
Mia or Zoe? Who did you give the serum to and why?
I gave the serum to Zoe! Why, you ask?! Because Mia chopped my f*****g hand off! Simple. Do I need another reason? What about you...?
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Lanzagranadas 16 ENE 2018 a las 9:15 
Publicado originalmente por Ogami:
True, but none of that is known to Ethan at that point.

He only knows he found his wife after 3 years, she was acting strange because of on infection that also got the Baker family. Zoe offers him a serum that can cure it and then he has the choice who he will give it to.
Sorry but i dont believe a man who searched 3 years! for his wife, gone through all that to save her would then leave her behind to go away with some strange girl he met a few hours before.

He knows Mia had been lying and hiding secrets to him. Mia herself says on a VHS tape "I know I can't expect anything from you, not after what I did." Ethan just doesn't know exactly what terrible things she did because whenever he asks she says she doesn't remember.

Ethan didn't search his wife for three years, he believed her dead and continued with his life. And seriously, if your dead wife calls you after three years, asking you to meet her on an abandoned farm in some remote region where various people have been reported missing within the last years, I'm pretty sure no dude with a brain would go alone to find her to begin with, if we're going to apply realism and common sense here.

Publicado originalmente por Ogami:
And according to the Steam achievement stats nearly 40% of players got the Mia ending achievement and just 20% got the Zoe one.
Which seems to collaborate with the CAPCOM numbers of 2/3 of players choosing Mia over Zoe.

Politicians are also elected by the vote of the majority and it doesn't mean it's allways "the right choice". There are reasons to save both Mia or Zoe, but there aren't strong reasons for neither of them. You can choose Mia, just because "I should, she's my wife", or Zoe, because she actually did something to earn it.
Última edición por Lanzagranadas; 16 ENE 2018 a las 9:16
Paranochat 16 ENE 2018 a las 17:12 
Publicado originalmente por originalcoolx:
I gave the serum to Zoe! Why, you ask?! Because Mia chopped my f*****g hand off! Simple. Do I need another reason? What about you...?

Honestly, on a first playthrough, without knowing the consequences, I chose Mia. We barely know Zoe, it's literally the first time we see her for real, and the whole choice scene felt weird and unnecessary.
Saving Mia was the goal, and going through all this to choose some stranger in the end sounds kinda weird to me. At this point, I'm pretty sure we don't know yet who Mia really is, so she's just your wife, acting crazy because of the infection. If you went through all the sh*t to face the choice of curing her, it doesn't look like a hard choice to make.

To be fair, this choice doesn't really fit in the story, it just feels forced (Even if Mia is all secretive and obviously lied about her life, she doesn't seem that much less trustworthy than Zoe during the main game. Actually, she did try to keep Ethan safe and far from this whole thing, and it worked, for 3 years).

I'd rather get the choice to cure myself or Mia (since Ethan is obviously infected as well), would be more interesting.

On a sidenote, isn't the serum supposed to kill any infected subject if not injected immediatly after the actual infection ? Zoe and Mia are both infected for quite some time, and Mia clearly shows some nasty body changes, so destroying all the infected parts would probably kill her, right ? Or at least leave her with massive damage since the infection has reached her brain.

Actually, the serum doesn't completely cure Mia since she still sees and hears Evie during the boat level. Also, I didn't truly understand why they needed a D-series specimen's arm to make the serum in the first place. Aren't they supposed to use a E-series sample instead ?

Nobody seems to care that Ethan is also infected throughout the whole game though, feels weird when they put obvious hints of this here and there. (Though, maybe the thing we hear vibrating after credits is actually the Codex watch thingy detecting Ethan ?).
Última edición por Paranochat; 16 ENE 2018 a las 17:19
originalcoolx 16 ENE 2018 a las 17:49 
Interesting idea to give it to yourself and forge ahead without either of them. Could Ethan do this though? Does not he need help from them? Might they just kill him then and their if he injected himself? Am I WAY out of line or could this be the outcome of self injection? Mia turns into some unholy beast and swallows him whole to absorb the serum herself?! Rips off Zoe's head in one swoop of her beastly hands, and countinues with HER OWN adventure?
Última edición por originalcoolx; 16 ENE 2018 a las 17:57
Paranochat 16 ENE 2018 a las 18:46 
Publicado originalmente por originalcoolx:
Interesting idea to give it to yourself and forge ahead without either of them. Could Ethan do this though? Does not he need help from them? Might they just kill him then and their if he injected himself? Am I WAY out of line or could this be the outcome of self injection? Mia turns into some unholy beast and swallows him whole to absorb the serum herself?! Rips off Zoe's head in one swoop of her beastly hands, and countinues with HER OWN adventure?

Honestly, as long as Mia is sane, she would probably ask Ethan to inject himself as she seems to be willing to sacrifice herself to save him from the sh*t she put him through (she knows it's her fault).
However, none of them even acknowledge that Ethan is infected, it's like they don't realize he is, even though he's literally exposed to infected people throughout the whole game and is seeing Evie as an hallucination before he meets with them (meaning the infection has reached his brain and that Evie could attempt to take control from that point).

Probably the biggest issue I have with the story, beside the fact that Ethan proves himself to be incredibly stupid, the fact he's infected doesn't bother ANYONE, not even himself.
Lanzagranadas 16 ENE 2018 a las 21:57 
Publicado originalmente por Paranochat:
On a sidenote, isn't the serum supposed to kill any infected subject if not injected immediatly after the actual infection ? Zoe and Mia are both infected for quite some time, and Mia clearly shows some nasty body changes, so destroying all the infected parts would probably kill her, right ? Or at least leave her with massive damage since the infection has reached her brain.

The game has a broken timeline and contradicts its own lore several times, so good luck trying to get this garbage plot actually make sense. It's pretty hilarious how Zoe claims "it's too late" for her parents but she and Mia had been infected for three years yet apparently there's no issue for them.

Publicado originalmente por Paranochat:
Actually, the serum doesn't completely cure Mia since she still sees and hears Evie during the boat level. Also, I didn't truly understand why they needed a D-series specimen's arm to make the serum in the first place. Aren't they supposed to use a E-series sample instead ?

Yeah, the Serum doesn't cure Mia if you decide to cure Mia, it doesn't cure Zoe if you decide to cure Zoe, and it doesn't kill Jack either (thanks End of Zoe for making this plot even less consistent :P) So at the end we basically spend half game looking for the most useless item in the Resident Evil history.
Última edición por Lanzagranadas; 16 ENE 2018 a las 21:58
Larry 17 ENE 2018 a las 9:57 
Hmm, woman you've spent [presumably] years of your life with... or some chick you spend an afternoon talking to on the phone? Decisions decisions...

It's a no brainer. The chick you went there to save in the first place is the person you're going to save. So some chick talked to you on the phone and pointed you in the right direction for her own gain(To get out and have you get the cure). Big whoop. She still made you do the dirty work so she could get the cure and get out.

You can talk about the "honourable thing to do" but the bottom line is, she was using you.
Paranochat 17 ENE 2018 a las 11:21 
Publicado originalmente por Lanzagranadas:
The game has a broken timeline and contradicts its own lore several times, so good luck trying to get this garbage plot actually make sense. It's pretty hilarious how Zoe claims "it's too late" for her parents but she and Mia had been infected for three years yet apparently there's no issue for them.

Yeah, the Serum doesn't cure Mia if you decide to cure Mia, it doesn't cure Zoe if you decide to cure Zoe, and it doesn't kill Jack either (thanks End of Zoe for making this plot even less consistent :P) So at the end we basically spend half game looking for the most useless item in the Resident Evil history.

Well, I wouldn't mind chasing an useless item if the mistake was part of the story, but there's so many plotholes it's actually frustating. I liked the FPS view and all, but they relied so much on this they forgot to give Ethan a personality or even write a consistent story. It doesn't need to be a deep/great story, just be consistent (And please, can we fight more than 2-3 different regular enemies ?).
grasmann 18 ENE 2018 a las 14:36 
On my first playthrough I chose zoe as well for obvious reasons:
- Knows the environment.
- Seems to know more about what is going on than mia.
- Has it together more than mia.
- Never tried to kill me, instead helped me with hints.
- Made the serum.

Mia on the other hand:
- Lied about her job long before the story.
- Attacked me with a knife.
- Sawed off my hand.
- In general provided no useful information.
- I wasn't even sure if the serum was gonna heal or kill her, she seemed pretty "far gone" as the game puts it. XP

It seemed obvious that zoe is the better choice.

For all following playthroughs I chose mia though to skip a pointless boss fight.
艾莉丝雅Baby ♥ 18 ENE 2018 a las 21:22 
Just by reading the comments you realise there are lots of guys out there who aren't faithful to their spouse. Makes me wonder the vows they made, promises, what does marriage means to them. Am always thought no matter what happens, your wifey is your family, the person you loved the most and the one you promise to protect with your life.

Yet there are still guys who choose some other random b**** they just met, someone who they don't know much about. *fustrated*

People may argue and ask if roles are reverse, will i still choose to save my spouse if he kept secrets, cheats on me, wants to kill me etcetera?, The answer is yes. Yes, i may be heartbroken by things he did, keeping secrets, but he is still my family, maybe in future we might broke up i don't know. People can call me stupid, crazy or whatever but to give up on the person i choose to be with, the person i loved the most for some stranger it's just impossible.

Am disappointed, very disappointed.
grasmann 19 ENE 2018 a las 6:23 
Publicado originalmente por ⎛⎝ ༺En Qi ♥༻ ⎠⎞:
Just by reading the comments you realise there are lots of guys out there who aren't faithful to their spouse. Makes me wonder the vows they made, promises, what does marriage means to them. Am always thought no matter what happens, your wifey is your family, the person you loved the most and the one you promise to protect with your life.

Yet there are still guys who choose some other random b**** they just met, someone who they don't know much about. *fustrated*

People may argue and ask if roles are reverse, will i still choose to save my spouse if he kept secrets, cheats on me, wants to kill me etcetera?, The answer is yes. Yes, i may be heartbroken by things he did, keeping secrets, but he is still my family, maybe in future we might broke up i don't know. People can call me stupid, crazy or whatever but to give up on the person i choose to be with, the person i loved the most for some stranger it's just impossible.

Am disappointed, very disappointed.

Yes in the game mia is the protagonists wife.
But we literally know nothing about her except that ethan is her "loving husband" and that she lied to him about her job and then tried to kill him.

People in this thread gave a lot of reasons for their decision.
In the specific scenario in the game it makes more sense to rely on the person that seems more fit to get help and come back to save the other person.

Mia seemed to be invincible anyway.
I mean in the first encounter with the chainsaw ethan shot her to the face a couple dozen times and she seems to be fine.

Would we have known it makes literally no difference story wise I guess everybody would've chosen mia on their first playthrough.
Última edición por grasmann; 19 ENE 2018 a las 6:25
Sema 19 ENE 2018 a las 21:58 
i gave it to Zoe, as she was totally innocent and did not deserve to suffer like that, Mia just played with fire and lied a lot to poor Ethan :doll:
Engineato 16 JUL 2018 a las 5:05 
So I'm late to the party here, but I'm gonna weigh in anyway. Here's why you guys are 100% wrong about giving Mia the serum.

1. Ethan's goal coming in was never to SAVE Mia. He simply went to see if she was actually alive. He certainly didn't go to the Bakers' home with injecting a miracle cure for an otherworldly infection in mind.

2. Without Zoe, there wouldn't have been a serum at all. It was HER idea, and she deserved a piece of the pie. Period. None of the outbreak was her fault in any way. Why should she suffer?

3. She went out on a limb to contact Ethan and support him while her crazy family could have ended her for it. So what if his survival was beneficial for her too? More than Mia did.

4. This is the biggest reason of all. Zoe being in the nightmare she was in was Mia's fault along with the corporation she worked for. Why should Mia get saved while the innocent ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chick, who held onto her sanity through the infection and went out of her way to try and get out of the mess, pay for her mistakes?

Choosing Zoe is the only truly human, compassionate choice, plain and simple. That's exactly why picked her. Choosing Mia is just for sentiment for a character who none of the players know anything more about than Zoe, and who has pretty much become a stranger to Ethan as well.

Nevermind the whole attempted murder and cutting off his hand and, you know, having shown time and time again that she's mentally unstable, violent, and can snap at any second without warning.
originalcoolx 16 JUL 2018 a las 5:42 
That's what I said from the very beginning. Fanboys and trolls scoffed and ridiculed, but my choice was always Zoe. Plus on top of it all, the cherry on the top-Zoe is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hottie, making Mia look like some wierd mouthed freak. Who would want to wake up next to that? Plus all of the keen things that you and I (in the beginning) have said. Point: Zoe! Slam dunk.
Engineato 16 JUL 2018 a las 12:48 
Yeah. Plus, you get to touch Zoe's bra!!! You're basically dating.
the2ndSign 16 JUL 2018 a las 13:48 
Publicado originalmente por Ogami:
Publicado originalmente por Lanzagranadas:

There is. If my wife chops my left hand with a chainsaw and tries to murder me several times, I'd rather trust the unknown girl who at least still behaves like human and tries to be somehow helpful while being the only person in that crazy house not trying to torture and kill me.


By that point you already know that she acts strange because of the infection and is not responsible for her actions. You literally have the cure in your hand. There is ZERO reason to not use it on your wife at that point.
Would that really matter to you? I don't think people are as rational as you think. Ethan sure isn't, or he would never have gone to Louisiana in the first place.
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