How bad are the jump scares in this game?

[Dragonic]

I'm a bit weird that I actually really like survival horror games and I like the "exploration" aspect of them (scanning every corner, drawer, room, etc. for hidden keys, ammo, weapons, tools, etc.), also similar to why I liked the original Metal Gear Solid games.
I absolutely love the setting of the game as far as I can tell from the gameplay footage and how it goes back to the RE1-2 roots in terms of puzzling and exploring (I know the rest of the gameplay is different).
But I also have a phobia for jump scares ... like, legit, they don't just startle me, they actually freak me out and make me have to ragequit the game and then I have to prevent myself from getting a panic attack.
That said, I've played some horror games with jump scares that were still mild enough for me to play it through in a few sessions, how bad and frequent are the jump scares in RE7? Also the fact it's in first person doesn't really help because I imagine ♥♥♥♥ will just appear behind you out of the blue, or doesn't it happen that often?

Thanks in advance, just considering whether to get it for the Winter Sale or not.

[Stigma]

True horror doesn't rely on jumpscares. They're simply the icing on the cake

[The Crescent Hawk]

Well for one, it's a game and two, yeah it can be scary but holy crap man either play the game or don't ...

[Poor Bastard]

Publicado originalmente por pavel8585:

Ok if cheap JUMP SCARES is a thing for you than yeah, because the fpp camera they can suprise you but nothing besides that thats why Remastered 1 and 2 is much more popular than this one and they doing now remastered RES3 Not Res 8

More like they can't bother making something new so they remaster their old stuff for a quick buck.

[Poor Bastard]

Publicado originalmente por Stigma:

True horror doesn't rely on jumpscares. They're simply the icing on the cake

True horror does. True horror is initiating the body's fight or flight response, filling the blood with adrenaline. Games like Silent Hill have macabre stories and symbolism and all that and that's fine but that's not real horror. No adult is actually going to be scared by that. This whole anti-jumpscare sentiment is a bunch of pretentious bull crap. If your heart rate isn't rising above 110 bpm, it's not a horror game.

[The Crescent Hawk]

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

Publicado originalmente por Stigma:

True horror doesn't rely on jumpscares. They're simply the icing on the cake

True horror does. True horror is initiating the body's fight or flight response, filling the blood with adrenaline. Games like Silent Hill have macabre stories and symbolism and all that and that's fine but that's not real horror. No adult is actually going to be scared by that. This whole anti-jumpscare sentiment is a bunch of pretentious bull crap. If your heart rate isn't rising above 110 bpm, it's not a horror game.

Have to agree with Poor on this. Well said man.

[Ghiyan]

I'm sorry genky, but this game is pretty damn scary.

[Bullett00th]

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

Publicado originalmente por Stigma:

True horror doesn't rely on jumpscares. They're simply the icing on the cake

True horror does. True horror is initiating the body's fight or flight response, filling the blood with adrenaline. Games like Silent Hill have macabre stories and symbolism and all that and that's fine but that's not real horror. No adult is actually going to be scared by that. This whole anti-jumpscare sentiment is a bunch of pretentious bull crap. If your heart rate isn't rising above 110 bpm, it's not a horror game.

Jumpscares aren't horror.

Horror is dread, horror is a constant. It's the fear of the unknown and not understanding the peril.

Jumpscares are the single simplest way to trigger the body's natural reflexes to an unexpected event.

Dread is art.
Jumpscares are cheap.

If they were 'true horror' like you described, then your friend sneaking up behind you and grabbing your sides with a BOO, triggering your body to twitch naturally, is horror as well.

[Poor Bastard]

Publicado originalmente por Bullett00th:

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

True horror does. True horror is initiating the body's fight or flight response, filling the blood with adrenaline. Games like Silent Hill have macabre stories and symbolism and all that and that's fine but that's not real horror. No adult is actually going to be scared by that. This whole anti-jumpscare sentiment is a bunch of pretentious bull crap. If your heart rate isn't rising above 110 bpm, it's not a horror game.

Jumpscares aren't horror.

Horror is dread, horror is a constant. It's the fear of the unknown and not understanding the peril.

Jumpscares are the single simplest way to trigger the body's natural reflexes to an unexpected event.

Dread is art.
Jumpscares are cheap.

If they were 'true horror' like you described, then your friend sneaking up behind you and grabbing your sides with a BOO, triggering your body to twitch naturally, is horror as well.

Devil May Cry has all the elements but no jumpscares and that is why it is not considered a horror game.

[Bullett00th]

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

Devil May Cry has all the elements but no jumpscares and that is why it is not considered a horror game.

Where's the dread in DMC? Oh right, the demons are dreading you.


Look I'm not trying to undermine your enjoyment of jumpscares or saying that you shouldn't be enjoying them if you are.
But they are factually the cheapest, easiest, most banal scares you can get out of a person.
And you can add dread to that by making the person understand something is about to jump out at them but not knowing when. It's the anticipation.

Creating an atmopshere of dread is art. This is why lovecraftian horror is so highly praised. And again - you don't have to like it, but there's no denying of the immense horror of the unknown that you know is just greater and more powerful than you.

[Poor Bastard]

Publicado originalmente por Bullett00th:

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

Devil May Cry has all the elements but no jumpscares and that is why it is not considered a horror game.

Where's the dread in DMC? Oh right, the demons are dreading you.


Look I'm not trying to undermine your enjoyment of jumpscares or saying that you shouldn't be enjoying them if you are.
But they are factually the cheapest, easiest, most banal scares you can get out of a person.
And you can add dread to that by making the person understand something is about to jump out at them but not knowing when. It's the anticipation.

Creating an atmopshere of dread is art. This is why lovecraftian horror is so highly praised. And again - you don't have to like it, but there's no denying of the immense horror of the unknown that you know is just greater and more powerful than you.

Hey now, DMC has just as much of an unsettling atmosphere as any horror game. Like many horror games, you explore an abandoned spooky place trying to find things to unlock doors while ominous music plays in the background with monsters appearing intermittently. The difference is nothing attempts to startle you, which removes any reason to be afraid.

Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is similar to DMC. It has atmosphere but no jumpscares and that is why it failed as a horror game. Most adults will not be frightened by mere story or atmosphere. You call jumpscares cheap because they are effective. They aren't only effective, they are the primary means of scaring an audience in a horror game or film.

[Bullett00th]

I'm gonna withdraw because I can't tell if you're making a fool out of yourself for saying this or out of me for taking it seriously

no offense

[Dragonic]

I had no clue this topic was gonna turn into such a debate ...
All I wanna say is that I actually played Resident Evil 2 Remake and I did fairly well and after that I have decided I'm gonna get Resident Evil 7 next.

But thanks for the replies though, it does seem like the jump scares are quite predictable most of the time, so I think it will be okay.
Also helps that the game is relatively short.

[Poor Bastard]

Publicado originalmente por Bullett00th:

I'm gonna withdraw because I can't tell if you're making a fool out of yourself for saying this or out of me for taking it seriously

no offense

Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand. I suppose some men such as you are so intelligent that you are above jumpscares.

[Bullett00th]

Publicado originalmente por Poor:

Publicado originalmente por Bullett00th:

I'm gonna withdraw because I can't tell if you're making a fool out of yourself for saying this or out of me for taking it seriously

no offense

Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand. I suppose some men such as you are so intelligent that you are above jumpscares.

I don't mean to start an epeen fight.

It's just that giving DMC as an example of dread-based horror is so ridiculous that I'm not sure if you're being serious anymore