RE7/ Not a Hero Theory: Clancy is Alive (Proof)

[SyxTheDragon]

Hello everyone, you may have heard this talk before but I thought I might as well make some observations that I saw: Throughout all the Maingame that we have seen, I beleive that Clancy Javis is still alive in some shape or form.

SECTION I. TAPE TIMELINE DISCREPENCIES

One of the points I'd like to bring up is the inconsistent Dates on the Tapes we have been provided with in both the Main Game and Banned Footage (Canon if you didnt know by now). A Major piece I'd like show is that We know that Clancy and the sewer gators arrived at the Guest House on June 1st, 2017 Which is also the same time They were kidnapped by the Baker Family. The Following Day, We get this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183879289 . June 2nd Right? (DISCLAIMER: Might either be June 3rd or 23rd, Not sure.) We of course see him die of course yeh, or so we think.

Hopefully Im not alone when I say I had a better time playing as Clancy more than Ethan Winters (The guy has the personality of Blank Paper). As the game went on, we all came to terms with Clancy's death despite his wasted Potential but then we received the banned footage tapes...The Most notable Tape is the 21 tape as seen here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183878599 . From what I gathered, This takes Place the Day AFTER clancy's death in Happy Birthday. Proving to be Inconsistent with the date of supposed death.

Chronologically, I would have to say that the bedroom tape here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183879038 Takes place after 21. After his escape from Spider lady aka Margaruite Baker, He would of course be chased down to the basement by Jack which would then lead to the NIGHTMARE tape: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183879503 . Here we seen him learn how to defend himself for the first time and after 5 AM where the door wouldve been freed up to open for clancy, He attempt's to make his escape. But Either He get's capture AGAIN by Lucas to be taken to the Salt Mine immediatly or The 21 Tape happens afterwards which would also lead up to him getting moved to the Salt Mine with Lucas Assumedly. At This point, Around the Nightmare tape, We would ATLEAST know that Clancy was alive around the time the Mia Tape occured http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183878217 .

SECTION II. BODY AND INJURY COMPARISON

I'm no autopsy worker or forensics man, but This is another thing I should present as well.

As we see in the happy birthday tape, We see that Clancy is burned ALIVE and trapped in the cake room. Then here we see What affect the fire had on Clancy and we get a good look of his injuries here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183879909 . But heres the problem I have with this, Some of you are probably going to say stuff like "But Xenpatine! We See his burned body Int he chair you dumbass!" "Xenpatine you idiot, The tapes are obviously Developer oversights, Your Theory is moot!" Well You may have a point but I beleive everything in this game and the DLC has a reason of whats being seen, we just dont have the answers yet. But back to my discussion, I have a problem with what we see in the HB tape because of what we see as Clancy's corpse here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183880061 . Take a Quick comparison, The bodies dont line up, Clancy in the HB when the fire died down and him presumably deceased, His Burns dont line up anywhere near this extent! Where is his Watch? Where is his Shirt? Why Does he look not as bad in HB tape compared to the chair photo?

One other thing i'd like to take note of is that This cant be Clancy's body, the first reason being the injuries dont line up, And the fact that It's not the right Gender! Thats right, I said gender, As seen in these photos here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183880429 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183880597

With the two Phots, you can see that there are visible breasts on this corpse, Hinting that this victem was a female. This serves as what I think, as a callback to some previous notes earlier in the game, which refered to a Man and What I think is either his significant other or friend (female) were kidnapped by the bakers, but They were both killed when they tried getting the shotgun. This implies that Clancy could still be alive, Plus clancy's injuries line up more with Jack's from the garage Fight http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183885164 . Also in the tape 21, Why is Clancy wearing a bandage with soem bloodstains? And if you look closely on his arms, You can clearly see what appears to be ash or fire residue on him. Plus if this did happen before HB, Why would clancy still have his fingers intact by that tape with his bandage gone? (Statistically, There is No way someone could be so lucky, where they wouldnt ATLEAST Lose one Finger in a game like this.) If Clancy did indeed lose an abbendage, We wouldve seen evidence of this in the HB tape. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1183880844

SECTION III. CONCLUSION

My conclusion here is, in theory, I beleive Clancy Javis may have been exposed to the Mold infection the same way Ethan Winters. Infection has occured Either by Mia (Shown in the KITCHEN Demo) or by One of the bakers when he came in contact with them. With his regenerative factor, He wouldve had the ability to atleast recover from his burns and Lucas has been known to Trick and Lie (Probably used a different body as a Scare tactic for his trap, and the body was either Covered in Mold or Burned in the Morgue Basement). I think that seeing that Lucas saw how much fun he could have with Clancy (Why get rid of your favorite toy if you want it to last.), I Think Lucas Stole him away into his secret labratory in the Salt Mines where the Not a Hero DLC will take place. Where hopefully he is alive in some shape or form (Maybe if still infected like Ethan He is alive or he is cocooned like Zoe and Jack). Perhaps Chris Come's along Clancy and manages to rescue him after apprehending Lucas in the Free DLC.

Write in the comments below to let me know what you think of my theory.

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Emperor Xenpatine:

Yeh, but what do you think of my theory?

I will quote what one of Chris' soldiers tell him over radio straight up to Chris.
"There is no sign of any survivors at Baker's house."

Yeah, I enjoyed your theory, yes the crisped body on the chair looks somewhat like a female, a bunch of details makes sense. But I'm pretty sure that Clancy died.

"A good camera-man like you, Clancy? You should had lived"
-Myself


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As a counter-proof. Zoe is show at the "flashback" with Jack, but so far, we know that we will have a DLC with her. She may be alive at this point and all we seeing are illusions.

My counter-proof is: Capcom doesn't make stuff right. The very first RE and it's remake are full of plotholes. RE Chronicles was made to fix those plotholes but introduced a few more.

Survivors of the mansion incident : Rebecca, Jill, Chris, Barry and Wesker.
In both games, original and remake, there is no ending showing Rebecca, Jill, Chris and Barry at the chopper.

hmmm well Like I said in the theory, Maybe when lucas said in 21 "I got some more games for you...", Perhaps he took him down to his secret labratory in the Salt Mines Where Chris Redfield will encounter the White Molded and apprehend Lucas.

[Diego Libe]

I will just give the benefit of doubt, because we clearly know that Lucas went for his secret lab, at the mines, and we didn't seen anything about it. It will be just at DLC. We may or may not find Clancy there, but the probability to find him dead there is pretty much sure, if he is there at all.

Ethan and Miia have some importance to the series due still being infected.
Is not like Billy that showed up at one game and went missing forever. Rebecca just showed up again due how much RE fans enjoy her and annoyed Capcom to bring her back.

My vote is that Miia and Ethan will show up again in a next game, even if it is just mentioning them. Clancy will not.

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

I will just give the benefit of doubt, because we clearly know that Lucas went for his secret lab, at the mines, and we didn't seen anything about it. It will be just at DLC. We may or may not find Clancy there, but the probability to find him dead there is pretty much sure, if he is there at all.

Ethan and Miia have some importance to the series due still being infected.
Is not like Billy that showed up at one game and went missing forever. Rebecca just showed up again due how much RE fans enjoy her and annoyed Capcom to bring her back.

My vote is that Miia and Ethan will show up again in a next game, even if it is just mentioning them. Clancy will not.

hmmmm

[Diego Libe]

The guy from the demo, that escaped the guest house, we don't know who is, all we know is that his claims at police were not accepted at all due him having LSD. Maybe he is the one that warned Chris/Blue Umbrella.

That's something I wish to know. How did they know what was happening at the Bakers?
Why send a full armed team to there? The types of work Chris and his previous contractors and enemies worked was stuff that could causee global pandemics. Not some missing people.

Who contacted them?

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

The guy from the demo, that escaped the guest house, we don't know who is, all we know is that his claims at police were not accepted at all due him having LSD. Maybe he is the one that warned Chris/Blue Umbrella.

That's something I wish to know. How did they know what was happening at the Bakers?
Why send a full armed team to there? The types of work Chris and his previous contractors and enemies worked was stuff that could causee global pandemics. Not some missing people.

Who contacted them?

Maybe Ethan did if the theory about him being a former Umbrella Employee is correct, in RE5 theres an interesting file that can be found, and under the Level 5 Scientists an Ethan W. Can be seen.

[Diego Libe]

I remember this file, but I didn't remember that his name was there :O

Would make sense, since it is implied that Tricell and/or Umbrella was interested on the works of the E-Series, as stated in the last two files.

And Chris being with them, probably as a spy, would make sense too.

Also wouldn't look as stupid as:
Wife goes missing for 3 years. Gets a mail with:

"Come get me
Baker's farm
Douvey, Lousiana"

Goes after her.

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Wait... didn't Ethan contacted someone by phone at the beggining of the game about this? :O

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

I remember this file, but I didn't remember that his name was there :O

Would make sense, since it is implied that Tricell and/or Umbrella was interested on the works of the E-Series, as stated in the last two files.

And Chris being with them, probably as a spy, would make sense too.

Also wouldn't look as stupid as:
Wife goes missing for 3 years. Gets a mail with:

"Come get me
Baker's farm
Douvey, Lousiana"

Goes after her.

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Wait... didn't Ethan contacted someone by phone at the beggining of the game about this? :O

Maybe it was one of his friends from either Old Umbrella or New Umbrella, Maybe he one day got up and left his Job at Umbrella to Find his Wife, Plus Ethan sure knows a whole lot about how to Mix chemicals and such, SO that would help explain.

[Lanzagranadas]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

That's something I wish to know. How did they know what was happening at the Bakers?
Why send a full armed team to there? The types of work Chris and his previous contractors and enemies worked was stuff that could causee global pandemics. Not some missing people.

The Bakers were reported missing. A huge ship and its whole crew was ravaged by a biohazard in the swamp area near the Baker farm. And finally there were various reports of missing people around the same area under "misterious circumstances".

It was pretty clear that something was really going wrong there, in fact it doesn't make any sense that it took 3 years for someone to finally do something, since the bizarre events started on October 2014 and nobody did a thing until July 2017.

It's funny that this reminded me of the "Bizarre murder cases" in the Arklay mountains from the first game, where it took only a month to send STARS to investigate the area (and that was because Umbrella, Irons and Wesker were delaying the investigation on purpose). And that was 1998.

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lanzagranadas:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

That's something I wish to know. How did they know what was happening at the Bakers?
Why send a full armed team to there? The types of work Chris and his previous contractors and enemies worked was stuff that could causee global pandemics. Not some missing people.

The Bakers were reported missing. A huge ship and its whole crew was ravaged by a biohazard in the swamp area near the Baker farm. And finally there were various reports of missing people around the same area under "misterious circumstances".

It was pretty clear that something was really going wrong there, in fact it doesn't make any sense that it took 3 years for someone to finally do something, since the bizarre events started on October 2014 and nobody did a thing until July 2017.

It's funny that this reminded me of the "Bizarre murder cases" in the Arklay mountains from the first game, where it took only a month to send STARS to investigate the area (and that was because Umbrella, Irons and Wesker were delaying the investigation on purpose). And that was 1998.

Maybe something similiar is happening at the Baker farm? We just dont know yet until Not a Hero and End of Zoe

[Lanzagranadas]

Delaying a police investigation for a few weeks is one thing, politicians in my country do it pretty often :). Now stopping the BSAA, Terra Save, the US Government and this new Blue Umbrella from doing a thing during three years, sounds like it would require a huge power to achieve that.

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lanzagranadas:

Delaying a police investigation for a few weeks is one thing, politicians in my country do it pretty often :). Now stopping the BSAA, Terra Save, the US Government and this new Blue Umbrella from doing a thing during three years, sounds like it would require a huge power to achieve that.

Perhaps the company, Tentsu (Only name we have for now), Its the company that made Eveline, We dont know a whole lot about them but maybe They were delaying investigations? They were after all keeping a close eye on the Bakers via Lucas.

[Lanzagranadas]

The company behind Eveline would surely have the motive, but how would they have the influence to stop everyone for so long is what I would find really hard to believe.

Honestly this game should have been set in a different time and a different location. Perhaps some forgotten region in a fictional third world country, but the United States? why? it's not like there's any plot reason for that either. And according to the series lore, the United States is the country with the fastest response against viral outbreaks since they're the only country that has their own private anti-biohazard organization.

Or another thing they could have done, is reducing the time span. It could have been a few months between the ship outbreak and the day someone is finally sent to investigate, instead of 3 years. That would have also make more sense on how the heck Zoe survives for so long given that it's not like she could go to the mart for food, and she doesn't seem to follow his parents' cannibal diet either .

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lanzagranadas:

The company behind Eveline would surely have the motive, but how would they have the influence to stop everyone for so long is what I would find really hard to believe.

Honestly this game should have been set in a different time and a different location. Perhaps some forgotten region in a fictional third world country, but the United States? why? it's not like there's any plot reason for that either. And according to the series lore, the United States is the country with the fastest response against viral outbreaks since they're the only country that has their own private anti-biohazard organization.

Or another thing they could have done, is reducing the time span. It could have been a few months between the ship outbreak and the day someone is finally sent to go to investigate, instead of 3 years. That would have also make more sense on how the heck Zoe survives for so long given that it's not like she could go to the mart for food, and she doesn't seem to follow his parents' cannibal diet either .

AFeasible explanation, hm

[Diego Libe]

As said here, all that happened, took 3 years to any outcome to happen. Nothing happened in those 3 years because no one knew, even the company that made Eveline could assume that she just died on the voyage and it was also a Top Secret mission, no one could know, even if she went missing. So they didnt report anything, they may be as well broke because only Eveline was a "success" out of all the experiment series.

The cargo ship could be pretty well be forgotten and the company that did Eveline hid the fact of what happened to it so no one could know about Eveline.

From the Baker's first scene, on the dinner table, it seemed like it wasn't their first time dealing with cops, they could have killed others before.

[SyxTheDragon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diego Libe:

As said here, all that happened, took 3 years to any outcome to happen. Nothing happened in those 3 years because no one knew, even the company that made Eveline could assume that she just died on the voyage and it was also a Top Secret mission, no one could know, even if she went missing. So they didnt report anything, they may be as well broke because only Eveline was a "success" out of all the experiment series.

The cargo ship could be pretty well be forgotten and the company that did Eveline hid the fact of what happened to it so no one could know about Eveline.

From the Baker's first scene, on the dinner table, it seemed like it wasn't their first time dealing with cops, they could have killed others before.

Yeh but it was also from people they kidnapped