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deemon 2017 年 1 月 24 日 上午 12:51
BT.709 vs SRGB
? what is this? Which one of them gives more true picture and do I need to have specific hardware also for this BT.709 or some cheap FullHD display can't even display this correctly? Do I have to be able to set this also in the display hardware settings also? But when it doesn't have this?
It does have Picture modes : sRGB, Eco, Standard, Movie, Game, Photo => any of those?
And "Color Format" is unchangeable and set to: RGB.
最后由 deemon 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 24 日 上午 12:57
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Chillin 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 6:05 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life
for me i have dif colour space to choose from on my tv. sRGB/BT 709, DCI, Adobe RGB, BT 2020 and Auto leaving it at auto defaults to sRGB/BT 709. Adobe RGB and BT2020 give a more vibrant image though. in the game setting it to sRGB gives a more i guess natural image and setting it to BT 709 gives it a darker gritty image kind of like a film effect. its personal pref. there is no better or worse image on my display as far im seeing. I do like to set my TV to BT2020 and leave this game at BT 709. as it gives a nice effect.
What does it has to do with your TV? It is options in your TV? Or they are being activated to choose ingame? Which one is the best you think? And what is your TV's model?

As I said its an option on my tv not the game and its personal pref. my tv is a Sony Bravia 55XE93. out of the choices in the game though alone I wouid pref BT 709
Sterming 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 6:18 
引用自 Bboy4life
引用自 Kirimasun
What does it has to do with your TV? It is options in your TV? Or they are being activated to choose ingame? Which one is the best you think? And what is your TV's model?

As I said its an option on my tv not the game and its personal pref. my tv is a Sony Bravia 55XE93. out of the choices in the game though alone I wouid pref BT 709
So what is your personal pref. then and why? Where you choose these options from? Picture Mode or what? I have Vibrant, Sport, Gaming and other modes in Picture Mode on my LG OLED TV but not these colour space!
Chillin 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 6:26 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life

As I said its an option on my tv not the game and its personal pref. my tv is a Sony Bravia 55XE93. out of the choices in the game though alone I wouid pref BT 709
So what is your personal pref. then and why? Where you choose these options from? Picture Mode or what? I have Vibrant, Sport, Gaming and other modes in Picture Mode on my LG OLED TV but not these colour space!

read my posts iv allready told you what my personal pref is and why. You need to look through your tv manual and find out what setting on your tv relates to different colour space. I dont have an LG . you have to find stuff out yourself.
Sterming 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 6:32 
引用自 Bboy4life
引用自 Kirimasun
So what is your personal pref. then and why? Where you choose these options from? Picture Mode or what? I have Vibrant, Sport, Gaming and other modes in Picture Mode on my LG OLED TV but not these colour space!

read my posts iv allready told you what my personal pref is and why. You need to look through your tv manual and find out what setting on your tv relates to different colour space. I dont have an LG . you have to find stuff out yourself.
Okay, I forgot to read the last sentence of your other comment. Now I read. I can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read the whole manual just to find what setting on my tv relates to different colour space. I didn't ask where to choose different colour space on LG TV. I ask where you choose different colour space on your TV.
Chillin 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 7:20 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life

read my posts iv allready told you what my personal pref is and why. You need to look through your tv manual and find out what setting on your tv relates to different colour space. I dont have an LG . you have to find stuff out yourself.
Okay, I forgot to read the last sentence of your other comment. Now I read. I can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read the whole manual just to find what setting on my tv relates to different colour space. I didn't ask where to choose different colour space on LG TV. I ask where you choose different colour space on your TV.

under picture menu. advanced settings
最后由 Chillin 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 7:22
Super Bambaspis 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 9:39 
引用自 Kirimasun
What is broadcast TV? ♥♥♥♥ DVDs. Just because DVDs etc are encoded in YCrCb and that is typically translated to sRGB in the limited colour space (16-235) doesn't mean TVs are should by default limited sRGB mode. Aah, now I understand. But why? How? It still should display the 16-235. So it should be okay. Can you show me picture of it?

Yes, it does still display the 16-235 sRGB. I'm a little confused about what you are trying to ask, but I'll try my best: If the image being displayed is sent as 0-255, and your screen is set to display only the colours from 16-235, then its not going to display the image correctly. The colours 0-15 will ALL be displayed as 16, and 236-255 are all displayed at 235. That leads to muddy dark colours and washes out bright details.

You already have a picture of this though - The behaviour of that test image, where you cant see higher than 20, is the proof of that. The end colours all looking the same is the result of the numbers higher than 235 being made to look like 235.

引用自 Kirimasun
What does mean crusty? How to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tell my TV to get out of limited mode?!

Depends on the TV, I dont know what TV you have dude. It's different from brand to brand, and even model to model. By crusty I mean 'bad'. I'll use common English from now on.

引用自 Kirimasun
I don't have HDR Mode in the Picture Modes. :/ By limited mode are you talking about SDR or not sRGB? They are different I think. Or sRGB released after HDR? Why? Just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? TVS HAVE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BETTER COLOR QUALITY AND BRIGHTNESS THAN MONITORS!!! ♥♥♥♥!

Hey I'm not saying your TV is bad... I'm just saying it's on limited sRGB mode. The fact that TV's default to limited sRGB is not saying anything of their quality, or potential, it's just saying that it's their default colour space for non-HDR content. OLED's are great. Chill, lol :P

HDR is usually enabled automatically if the feed is detected as HDR, it's not a toggle you can turn on and off to affect all feeds.

SDR, I dont know what that is sorry. There are a lot of new terms floating around HDR, and I imagine SDR is a way of saying NOT HDR? I dunno though, sorry. It's not important though, don't worry.

sRGB has two types: Limited and full. Limited is 16-235 and full is 0-255. sRGB has been around for ages, I think it became the de-facto standard in TV's and digital monitors in 2007? Might have been earlier, but it's been around for much longer than it was the standard.

引用自 Kirimasun
What I should test with these images in my TV? It's on the Sport Mode now and I can't see after 20. :/ Because it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ too bright. ;D

Yep, that's prettty standard. your TV is displaying limited sRGB. Because it starts at sRGB 16, which is grey, and ends in sRGB 235 which isn't very vivid (remember, limited is 16-235), it applies some magic and makes the darks darker and the brights brighter. The 20 box on my screen doesn't look bright, because it's not a bright colour, and my screen is expecting full 0-255 colour. But, on your screen the 20 is very bright because your TV is boosting it AND adding effects and filters.

Sport mode isn't clean colour, it has an effect applied to it. It's displaying colours how it thinks might look visually appealing, not accurately. If you turned on custom mode instead, all default, you might be able to see up to box 24-28.

Boxes beyond 24 will all look the same as they are all being downconverted to a colour that can display on your screen when it's in limited sRGB mode.

引用自 Kirimasun
What is 1-32? Are they bit? And why are the numbers increase by 2? Also why our panels are not 32 bit if we use 32 bit colors?

You sure you wanna know? Alright, lets do it:

It's 32 boxes because it's numbering for one colour per byte rather than bit. For every 8 numbers in sRGB's 0-255 full it's displaying one of them.... Well, this image is throwing away every second box, so it's 1 in 16. This is so you can see the large jumps in the colours, it's just for test purposes. Basically, take the box number and x it by 8 and that's the sRGB full colour the box is showing. So, if you can't see beyond 20 your settings on your TV are preventing you from seeing higher than sRGB 160 (at least in green).

32 bit colour is kinda confusing. It's the same thing as 8 bit colour, just looking at if differently. It refers to the total number of bits controlling the colour of a pixel. 8 for red, 8 for blue, 8 for green and another 8 for transparency. sRGB is termed 8 bit colour, because it's 8 bits per colour. It doesn't add them all up to total 32, but you can think of it as the same thing. Like, you could call 12bit HDR 48 bit colour in the same way but you would get funny looks.

More detail:

sRGB is 8bit colour. 8 bits, either set in 1 or 0 (binary) leads to a possible 256 combinations (2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2 = 256). That's where you the 0-255 (count the 0). sRGB has three 8bit chunks to control colour, one for each of Red, Green, and Blue. All these combined add to a total unique ~16.7 million colours that can be displayed.

Limited sRGB is ~10.5 million colours, seeing there are less possible combinations of colours.

You can now see why displaying full sRGB on a display set to only show limited sRGB leads to some bad results - about 6 million out of the 16 are not being displayed correctly! Yikes.

引用自 Kirimasun
I mean in 8-bit panels or 10-bit panels I'm not sure, it's not the one we use as standard, it prevents the wave in colors where you see the different color tones in each wave. I'm talking about this:
https://dgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10bit.png

Yes, that's what's termed as banding. The higher bit your color gamut, the less banding you see. 8 still has some banding, but that's where HDR shines. You can still get it, but it's MUCH harder to spot.

you get banding from displaying images that have a higher gamut than your monitor can display - so it's why I was saying you get it when you display full sRGB images when your TV is in limited sRGB mode.

引用自 Kirimasun
Why it more friendly for TV content?

I did answer this, but maybe I was unclear? It's because most content that is played on a TV other than games and high gamut blu-ray is mastered to display well in limited sRGB mode. If TV's defaulted to full sRGB it would be the wrong colour space for most people, and most TV related content would look plain bad on it. The blacks would be grey, and the brights would be dull. You can't have 99.9% of people having their pictures looking terrible on their TV's because they don't know how to turn on the correct colour space.

For you, maybe limited sRGB is bad - but for most people with a TV, it's absolutely the right colour space. For people like you and me, they have options to enable full sRGB.
最后由 Super Bambaspis 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 9:42
Super Bambaspis 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 9:47 
But seriously, if you don't want to find out how to turn on a clean sRGB colour, because it's too tedious to read the manual then, just stick to limited and use the settings you think look the best. Just do yourself a favor and tell your NVCP to output limited sRGB because you making all your games you play through your PC to your TV look worse. I'm sure you will be happy with the results overall.

That goes to everyone else playing on a TV - Set your colour space to limited if you don't know how to drop your TV into full sRGB mode. Games will look a lot better.
最后由 Super Bambaspis 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 7 日 上午 9:49
Chillin 2019 年 4 月 7 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life

under picture menu. advanced settings
Yeah mine is Color Gamut option, but the options are in the Advanced Settings are disabled.

i dunno then..you really should read through your tv manual to get a better understanding of how to set up and use your TV because it sounds like you have not set it up correctly.
Sterming 2019 年 4 月 7 日 下午 2:26 
引用自 Bboy4life
引用自 Kirimasun
Yeah mine is Color Gamut option, but the options are in the Advanced Settings are disabled.

i dunno then..you really should read through your tv manual to get a better understanding of how to set up and use your TV because it sounds like you have not set it up correctly.
♥♥♥♥ IT, I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL. THE OPTIONS ARE IN THE ADVANCED SETTINGS WERE ENABLED BEFORE! ♥♥♥♥ IT, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!
Super Bambaspis 2019 年 4 月 7 日 下午 4:40 
I feel like you comprehended maybe 5% of what I wrote? Not my problem, GL.

Unsubbed
最后由 Super Bambaspis 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 7 日 下午 4:45
Chillin 2019 年 4 月 7 日 下午 8:32 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life

i dunno then..you really should read through your tv manual to get a better understanding of how to set up and use your TV because it sounds like you have not set it up correctly.
♥♥♥♥ IT, I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL. THE OPTIONS ARE IN THE ADVANCED SETTINGS WERE ENABLED BEFORE! ♥♥♥♥ IT, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

lol if you cant be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to figure something out by reading a manulal then good luck. im done.
Sterming 2019 年 4 月 9 日 上午 10:46 
引用自 Bilbo Laggins
I feel like you comprehended maybe 5% of what I wrote? Not my problem, GL.

Unsubbed
Wtf where is my long answer to your post? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spend time on it. I'm not gonna ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spend time on it again. Why the ♥♥♥♥ you feel like I comprehended maybe 5% of what you wrote? Ofc it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your problem if someone can't comprehend of what you said.

Bwahahahahahahahaha you were here because of answering my questions? XD
引用自 Bboy4life
引用自 Kirimasun
♥♥♥♥ IT, I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL. THE OPTIONS ARE IN THE ADVANCED SETTINGS WERE ENABLED BEFORE! ♥♥♥♥ IT, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

lol if you cant be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to figure something out by reading a manulal then good luck. im done.
LOL, IF YOU CAN'T BE ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING OUT BY TELLING ME THEN GOOD LUCK. I'M DONE. IT'S NOT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CAN'T BE ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING OUT BY READING A MANUAL. I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL.
最后由 Sterming 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 9 日 上午 10:50
burningmime 2019 年 4 月 9 日 下午 1:31 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bboy4life

i dunno then..you really should read through your tv manual to get a better understanding of how to set up and use your TV because it sounds like you have not set it up correctly.
♥♥♥♥ IT, I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL. THE OPTIONS ARE IN THE ADVANCED SETTINGS WERE ENABLED BEFORE! ♥♥♥♥ IT, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

What happened to the education system? Is Common Core to blame?
Sterming 2019 年 4 月 9 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 burningmime
引用自 Kirimasun
♥♥♥♥ IT, I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL. THE OPTIONS ARE IN THE ADVANCED SETTINGS WERE ENABLED BEFORE! ♥♥♥♥ IT, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

What happened to the education system? Is Common Core to blame?
wut
Chillin 2019 年 4 月 11 日 下午 3:07 
引用自 Kirimasun
引用自 Bilbo Laggins
I feel like you comprehended maybe 5% of what I wrote? Not my problem, GL.

Unsubbed
Wtf where is my long answer to your post? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spend time on it. I'm not gonna ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spend time on it again. Why the ♥♥♥♥ you feel like I comprehended maybe 5% of what you wrote? Ofc it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your problem if someone can't comprehend of what you said.

Bwahahahahahahahaha you were here because of answering my questions? XD
引用自 Bboy4life

lol if you cant be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to figure something out by reading a manulal then good luck. im done.
LOL, IF YOU CAN'T BE ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING OUT BY TELLING ME THEN GOOD LUCK. I'M DONE. IT'S NOT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CAN'T BE ♥♥♥♥♥♥ TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING OUT BY READING A MANUAL. I'M NOT GONNA ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ A WHOLE PAGES OF A ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MANUAL.

Your either a troll or a real dumb ass.. you cant even be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to read a manual to learn how to use your own tv to fix your problem and you dont listen to the advise thats been given to you. lol have fun rageing to yourself on the this thread.
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