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2) yes, that was sarcasm in response to being flamed.
3) You edited your post before I saw.
4) I've read all your links and fact checked. It is my personal belief. And it is YOUR personal belief that the developers are truthful. You believe the developers, I believe what the games are showing me. I'm not even trying to argue this anymore, just re-stating at this point.
And I've never changed the goalposts. Literally just been saying the same thing the entire time lol.
Literally multiple people pointed it out. Not just one or two.
When I edit a post, I never remove things.
Anything that makes me look dumb or wrong I put a strike command because I feel it is pathetic to remove things you were wrong about.
The final bit, it is not my belief the developers are truthful.
If the people who WROTE and DESIGNED the character go on the record to say THIS is who he is and THIS is how they are, it is not on me to believe they are being truthful, it is 100% fact until you can prove that some where in Capcoms offices that they had something else planned that contradict it. So far NOTHING in the game lore contradicts it. Things that Capcom have retconned they come out and say they are retconning and rewrite the lore accordingly. Has that happened to Chris from RE7? No. This is the same Chris Redfield from the previous titles with Capcom saying no clone or tricks invovled, its him.
And yes, you have goal post moved a lot.
This is the first time you've come out to say 'yea I personally dont believe it' you've constantly pushed your stance as fact and that was the issue despite sooooo many people calling you out. And an example of your goal post move is for you to cling on something I said about their website and use that as an argument to discredit EVERYTHING I linked up until that one singular post despite what I linked being straight from the developers mouths. That is goal post moving.
I've pushed my personal belief the same way you're still pushing your personal belief.
There is proof.
I literally gave you the developer who was in charge of RE7 flat out saying it.
Do you have ANY evidence to contradict that?
No.
So what we have is the developers saying that its him, its not a trick.
Thats it.
Just because YOU have a hard time taking that as fact doesn't mean it isn't fact.
Again, characters can be rewritten and retconned, we've seen it done in the RE series but right now there is nothing that contradicts what they went on record to say.
You've been trolling pushing your view as fact and theres the disconnect here.
And no, it isn't my "personal belief" that the developers said one thing, it is literally what they said.
Jesus, I swear.
Personal belief?
Sooooo the sun being the center of our solar system is my personal belief I guess too?
Again FACTS are FACTS.
It isnt about personal beliefs.
You believe AGAINST facts contradicting your stance.
Now you have a personal belief since it does not relate to what we KNOW.
Again.
Developers who created it say its him.
Thats fact.
No one needs to 'believe' its him.
Its fact.
If you don't believe its him, then you have a personal belief and you need evidence to lead to your speculation.
Thats how science and the world works in an educated manner.
A more accurate comparison is when the inventor of the Graphics Interchange Format said it was pronounced "jif." That didn't automatically make it fact. It's personal belief whichever you choose.
It is a fact that the developer said the design change was due to photogrammetry and wasn't a trick. It is not factual he is being totally truthful. Therefore it's personal belief whether you believe that or not.
This is goal posting again.
The character Chris Redfield is written and designed by Capcom.
There is scientific evidence factually showing that Capcom confirmed Chris Redfield, is Chris Redfield by doing interviews and stating its no trick or clone or anything....
So unless you are personally calling Capcom liars and not knowing something they design and put into a game is what THEY say it is... is you having speculation and personal beliefs.
Me telling you, Capcom's official stance is its him.... its not me 'personally believing' its literally me saying the people who own the rights, design, and story creative behind a character are saying this and then saying its no trick.
YES.
A developer CAN retcon something, I literally said that.
But do you have evidence that they are doing that?
No?
Then RIGHT NOW, Chris Redfield in Resident Evil 7 and Resident Evil 8 is bing bing bing
you guess it, the SAME Chris Redfield from the previous titles UNTIL Capcom says otherwise which was explained to you REPEATEDLY since the start of this thread 5 years.
And if we are going to get into the whole GIF and JIF thing.
If we follow the rules of English grammar it is pronounced JIF.
Because of two english rules backing it.
Rules of acronyms state that abbreviated words are new words as a whole and dont get pronounced simply by what words they represent. So G I F acronym must follow rules of English.
Rules of English state that G followed by I makes a J sound unless exclusively stated otherwise.
So CORRECT pronunciation is JIF.
But due to how many people say GIF it is socially acceptable to be pronounced as such making BOTH correct with one being backed by English rules.
Did that go the way you thought it would?
Probably not and this is again goal post moving cause we aren't discussing this I just thought it'd be hilarious to point out what is ACTUALLY right and what is SOCIALLY right.
No more beating around the bush 1 direct question.
Did the developer say it is the real Chris Redfield?
Yes.
Done.
End of discussion.
Anything else stated on the topic is pure speculation.
Yes, the developer said it was the "real Chris Redfield." Never said they didn't. Redfield from RE7 being the same as the character in RE8 just doesn't make sense canonically. So I'll believe the medium and you believe that the devs are telling the truth.
Really?
I literally just told you the rules of English?
You can google and use wayback machine to call me a liar on something I didn't know but you can't google rules I straight up tell you?
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/abbreviations/#:~:text=Typically%2C%20acronyms%20and%20initialisms%20are,as%20a%20series%20of%20letters.
https://www.newtimes.co.rw/children-education/master-sound-when-g-pronounced-j-or-g#:~:text=The%20first%20rule%20is%20that,g%E2%80%9D%20that%20changes%20the%20sound.
Yeah. I guess I've been making stuff up despite constantly and factually proving your stance to be incorrect. I'm sorry that words are created and go by what the creator pronounces them and then we have ACTUAL grammar rules that back the way it is pronounced. Sorry that this was something so far above your level of fact checking.
Didn't realize that these English rules that were created and established decades before GIF even became an acronym just some how get thrown out the window because you personally can't come to terms of what is the RIGHT way of something and what is a socially accepted way.
And thank you.
You proven my point that RE7 and RE8 is the same Chris Redfield and the developers confirmed it.
Anything else is pure speculation which has been told to you since the very beginning on top of the fact that it is entirely possible for it to get retconned later but the fact of the matter was AT THE TIME, was if RE7 Chris was the real Chris. Which you dragged through the mud on a trolling rampage and kept saying wait until the DLC comes out, DLC came out and you still trolled despite being proven wrong then it was, wait until RE8 comes out, RE8 comes out and you are STILL wrong.
It is okay if you speculate, but don't smear facts as some ones else speculation or belief, that isn't how facts work.
You're welcome. I have proven the point that the creator isn't always 100% trustworthy.
You didnt prove anything...
I literally linked the rule which goes indepth which you clearly ignored and I originally told you exclusive rules also exist. Have you provided ANYTHING that backs your side? No.
Can you google what I said and find the same rule over and over and over? Yes.
Im sorry that the only time you provide a link is when it sides with you but refuse to link anything else you attempt to say because you cant back it and know you cant.
Ugh im done with this all you just troll dude. It isnt up to me to explain the differences in the words you provided its up to you to prove how the English rule doesnt apply with those and then link and go from there.
And you proved that people can go against what is established and it can be socially adopted as correct with enough adoption. Ugh you dont even argue well at all you just troll.
You know what.
I am so damn glad you linked the Capcom page with the wayback machine.
If nothing else here confirmed you to be a troll, that surely does as it shows if you have ANYTHING to actually back yourself, you'll go far out of your way to look it up and come back to a thread you unsubbed to link it just to call me out but when you have nothing but your own personal beliefs and you are arguing against facts you have absolutely nothing.... again like I said, you're a troll and I'm not just throwing that around you literally are. You have constantly shifted your argument "wait for DLC" "wait for RE8" "its not him" "I never said it wasnt him".
Oh, and just to throw salt on all of this.
The origin of the word matters as that is what makes a tons of exceptions to English rules. But a word created from English people, will follow English rules unless socially adopted otherwise like the word "ain't" which becomes an exception.
Not words ADOPTED by English people that don't even change from their pronunciation in other languages - which was literally already linked to you. So congrats, you played yourself because instead of actually trying to debate like a logical sane individual you just want to throw ♥♥♥♥ at the wall and see if it sticks. Feel free to link me evidence to back what you are saying when it comes to those words though and why they don't follow the G after I rule. (: I know you wont but its hilarious watching you ignore things that you can't back.
Because it isn't necessary. The argument is so simply won that I can provide these words and show you where you are wrong:
You clearly ignored that twice. Or you actually do pronounce the words like that - you never said. If you insist, here are links which say the same thing:
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/153102/when-does-gi-sound-like-ji#:~:text=There%20are%20no%20strict%20rules%20for%20when%20the%20letter%20%3CG%3E%20is%20pronounced%20/d%CA%92/%20as%20in%20ginger%20and%20when%20it%20is%20pronounced%20/g/%20as%20in%20giggle.%20In%20general%2C%20it%20is%20more%20likely%20to%20be%20pronounced%20to%20/d%CA%92/%20if%20it%20is%20followed%20by%20%3CI%3E%2C%20%3CE%3E%20or%20%3CY%3E%2C%20but%20there%20are%20many%20exceptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_G#:~:text=This%20additionally%20leads%20to%20many%20words%20spelled%20with%20g%E2%9F%A8e%20i%20y%E2%9F%A9%20and%20pronounced%20with%20a%20hard%20%E2%9F%A8g%E2%9F%A9%2C%20including%20what%20may%20be%20the%20most%20common%20g%E2%9F%A8e%20i%20y%E2%9F%A9%20word%20%22get%22.%20It%20has%20also%20resulted%20in%20the%20file%20format%20GIF%20having%20two%20possible%20pronunciations%2C%20with%20both%20hard%20%E2%9F%A8g%E2%9F%A9%20and%20soft%20%E2%9F%A8g%E2%9F%A9%20in%20common%20use.
Therefore it's an impossibility that the "grammar rule" is absolute when there are exceptions.
So in addition to real examples I've given, you now have the links you asked for. Dismiss these as "trolling", I don't care. You really dug into that GIF rabbit hole for no real reason at all when I just mentioned GIF in three sentences to re-affirm my point. Somehow you've turned that into full-on paragraphs of text and still managed to be wrong in the most spectacular way. That's really impressive.
All this culminates in proof that the last sentence of my previous post is correct: "the creator isn't always 100% trustworthy." Now with the extra fodder that is you not being trustworthy on the topic of "grammar rules."