Theoshians - Defeated

[Sesikee]

How in the nine hell am I supposed to defeat these guys?

[Irushian]

I defeated them without photon torpedoes, without any missiles or torpedoes in fact.

So no, not one weapon to win the game. What a narrow minded thing to claim.

[Tech Enthusiast]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Irushian:

I defeated them without photon torpedoes, without any missiles or torpedoes in fact.

So no, not one weapon to win the game. What a narrow minded thing to claim.

I have lost 90+ battleships with a mix of cannons and lasers. Not just one type either. At least 6 differend weapon types, at all maxed tech. Simply because my ships did not shot a single volley at the enemy battleships. So whatever magical weapon combo is valid apart from those missiles, it obviously is not one i did consider valuable at that point in tech.

If that is considered a valid gameplay mechanism, then i am very narrow minded indeed.

Mind sharing what weapons can attack them, apart from antimatter missiles then?

[Ufnv]

They are more or less invulnerable for any other weapon by photon torpedoes - it's written in their description. But if you really don't like this, you can edit the file called equip.all and remove this invulnerability.

[Irushian]

I don't have my designs at hand, but they weren't invunerable to them, they just did a much reduced damage to the battleships than the other types. I had over 20 battleships which made short work of all their ships, with no losses. Their battleships did wipe me down to one remaining ship but I did win. Their fleet only had 2 battleships, a few more cruisers and the majority were destroyers if memory serves me correctly.

[Tech Enthusiast]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ufnv:

They are more or less invulnerable for any other weapon by photon torpedoes - it's written in their description. But if you really don't like this, you can edit the file called equip.all and remove this invulnerability.

That is nice and all. Just bad if they wipe your armada before you actually get to see their description, right? After all they do jump into a random system. And i am sure it is not totally random, as my armada was split in 3. And all 3 where targeted within less then 5 ingame years.

That is not enough time to react at all, so you either have the right weapons, or the game is over. Not going to bash this any further. Some people love to be killed by mechanics like that. I don't. I had a really bad time with the game and this endgame feature just prooved to be the last nail in the coffin. Did not have any fun before that either.

So don'T take my rambling too serious. Focus on people that do enjoy the game and improve their experience. For me personally, you can't change enough, so ill move on.

[Eldiora]

I had the same Issue, I assembled my fleet of Star Destoyers (around 40 Battleships and around 2.000 fighters and their carriers) and then went to Polaris..... They had 120 Battleships and a couple hundred other ships.

There is not even a remote chance to beat that (I could if I coudl bring my Deathstar Stations, those can go toe to toe with a Battleship.

[Sesikee]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Rattenmann:

Just like the rest of the game. One weapon to win the game, no choice... :/

Well, just for the Theoshians, yeah. However, I use different weapons on different warships against the AI empires, such as superlaser. That's a lot of fun. :)

Opprinnelig skrevet av Eldiora:

I had the same Issue, I assembled my fleet of Star Destoyers (around 40 Battleships and around 2.000 fighters and their carriers) and then went to Polaris..... They had 120 Battleships and a couple hundred other ships.

There is not even a remote chance to beat that (I could if I coudl bring my Deathstar Stations, those can go toe to toe with a Battleship.

What? 120 Battleships? your mods must have screwed up something.

[Ufnv]

Not, that's something with the Theoshians code. Looks like they start to multiply when you visit their home hive with some stealth ships

[Sesikee]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ufnv:

Not, that's something with the Theoshians code. Looks like they start to multiply when you visit their home hive with some stealth ships

well 120 Theoshians battleship is the 2nd coming of Christ. End of all ends. Ain't no way Jose to defeat 120 of that. Just ain't happening :P

[baseballkid26]

I was attempting to use the theosythesis resonator and thought you just brought a ship with it to polaris. It was quickly destroyed. next i brought 15 of my battleships to deal with the ships that were there. there was then 60 theosian battleships there. I spent the next 1.5k years building up nearly 200 battleships that can easily beat off one theosian battleship. when i attacked there was 345 theosian battleships, 600ish cruisers and 1300 ish destroyers. my fleet didnt stand a chance

[armoek]

I defeated a 4 battleship army at Polaris using about 50 torpedo destroyers and 1200 Torpedo Gunboats. The trick with killing the battleships is to disable your missiles and move all your gunboats close to the battleship so they are all in range then enable and use excessive missile use. Do this at the same time that your destroyers are engaging and you should overwhelm their point defense lasers. I had to return to hanger once to rearm but ended up killing all 4 battleships this way. All the rest are destroyed by your destroyers working in groups before killing the battle ships.

Take your time and micro manage with pausing and slow time as needed. a few mistakes will be difference between winning and losing.

[Tashrinbackup]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ufnv:

They are more or less invulnerable for any other weapon by photon torpedoes - it's written in their description. But if you really don't like this, you can edit the file called equip.all and remove this invulnerability.

Having a weakness is nice and all, but why make it near impossible for any other kind of weapon? Why are they so weak to photon torpedoes yet able to more or less laugh off all other kinds of weapons?

Where does one look in that file to change this.... issue?

[Dagon Sherman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sesikee:

Just did 4 tactical battles in a row and the last one, I finally won, with only 2 Battleship left and all fighters gone. They're finally defeated. Gotta say, the ending is kinda anti-climatic for the effort that I put in in trying to defeat them. I won't say the ending here but should be more for the efforts put in to killing them.

I just launched my final invasion. Has over two thousand photon topedo armed fighters, two hundred ships armed to the teeth with the best armor and shields, and got smashed when they had over 1000 cruisers, 500 destroyers, and over 200 battleships. And that was on easy. any advice?

[FireStorm20]

Opprinnelig skrevet av cullenmbrewer:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sesikee:

Just did 4 tactical battles in a row and the last one, I finally won, with only 2 Battleship left and all fighters gone. They're finally defeated. Gotta say, the ending is kinda anti-climatic for the effort that I put in in trying to defeat them. I won't say the ending here but should be more for the efforts put in to killing them.

I just launched my final invasion. Has over two thousand photon topedo armed fighters, two hundred ships armed to the teeth with the best armor and shields, and got smashed when they had over 1000 cruisers, 500 destroyers, and over 200 battleships. And that was on easy. any advice?

Jesus i never saw them having so many ships, i played on hard. Maybe smaller galaxy size or i faster got around to counbter attack them.

From my experience there are 2 major weakness of Theosians : the very slow speed of tehir weapons and lack of strong anti fighter defenses.

Yuo can fight them with fast destoyers , dodging their fire, tough it rquieres alot of micromanagament. You can fight them with fighters and torps, tough it requiers a lot of missiles stores.And the numerous destoryers can be handled by battleships.

Below a video how i fought them. Its onyl a small battle, but you can see how it works, each of the tactics i mentioned above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKVTM5C-BD4

[Craigo]

so after 6 or 7 games i finally defeated the theoshians myself. im pretty sure it was a flukey glitch though, i reloaded one of my old games and tried to battle their fleet of over 80 battleships with 100 ships of mine, i defeated every single one with no ship losses. I'm still very much determined to do it for real though, although i find the ending very anti-climatic :(