[SPOILERS] Discussion about the story & ending

[Viper]

[Sorry for my English]

I love using Yuki during my playthough.
She is so cule (>///<)
I hate to see the good guy Samurai - Mugen had to die
I dislike Hayato, he is too emotional in some point. He isn't a good teacher for Yuki

To be honest,I never think the Shogun's brother is the bad guy behind all of this.
I thought his son is the final boss. He looked and sounded evil.

I understand the Samurai have to kill himseft if he dishonor or fail a mission.
But I am still feeling sad to see Mugen have to kill himseft because he wanted to save his friends and lover.

I wish there are more story for them. I wish to see them again in Shadow Tactics 2

Overall, It is the best game I played on December.
Thank you dev



In Shadow Tactics 2
Yuki learned how to throw shuriken from Hayato, learned how to disguise from Aiko, and learned how to use rifle from Takuma.
She command an Tanuki army and ready to kill her first teacher who ♥♥♥♥♥ and murdered her mother

[Vault Traveler]

Hayato isnt Yukis Sensei, btw. He refuses to be it and later on Takuma accept to teach her because of her fast learning skills and curiosity.

[ChadSimpKing]

hayato is my favortie without doubt, his skills are amazing especially the stone if you know how to use it right it can work wonders its the only distraction you get that actually work on all enemies straw hat, samurai, guards

[FisTan]

Originally posted by Iria_Shimakaze:

[Sorry for my English]

To be honest,I never think the Shogun's brother is the bad guy behind all of this.
I thought his son is the final boss. He looked and sounded evil.

Really? I immediately suspected at the start, its one of the most overused plot twist in history. Capable, ambitious brother stages a coup so he can wrest power from his good natured/naive brother. And it would work were it not for the hero. Does this not sound familiar? To be honest i really liked the dialogue, which made me expect more than a cliché plot. There's definately a japanese guy writing the dialogue, it exactly fits their culture.

[TheRailTracer]

The noboru plot was telegraphed and over cliche, but it was still developed properly. He and masaru screamed bad guys, but masaru was just too obvious at times. There could have been a plot twist with masaru being cunning under his ♥♥♥♥♥♥ character, but he proved to be an idiot to the end.

Mugen's story is indeed tragic. Deceived and forced to choose between his duty and his companions and lovers he betrayed his duty.

Hayato isn't that emotional most of time, other than the childish stuff with Aiko on Hida. You really see his character evolve and adapt the most throughout the game. First meeting mugen and then his interaction with the group, in the end you can see his "soft" side. Also, after Mugen's death his shift from absolute rage and hate with his dialogs with Aiko on matsuya and myogi missions. I really liked his character overall, even when he was not Mr nice guy to Yuki (he wasn't just an a**hole either).

In the end all 5 characters were super likable and had their own edge, which is part of what made the game and plot feel great. Despite the plot not being the newest or best one.

Easily my favourite game of winter, and top of the year. Thanks Mimimi.

[Vault Traveler]

If i would have written it "kage-sama" would be still unknown but would have supported Noburu to eliminate his shogun brother and would reveal later in a sequel someone else. Maybe another Lord or just i simple person who want to see the world burn (joker style).

[Anapoda]

Loved the game mechanics, loved the game levels, loved the characters, loved the music but i sure didn't love the story lol.

Heavily predictable, awfully cliché and really just very forgettable.

But i didn't start with this game hoping for a complex story, just a strong gameplay and on that aspect the game does deliver.

A cool story is always enjoyable of course. Ah well, perfection isn't of this world now isn't it?

[Mr Slug]

Yuki is the best, I'm not to found of Hayato I only liked the shuriken, his melee atk is way to slow (almost 50% more then Aiko)

Didnt like that Mugen died and wished there was a way to save him.

My biggest disapoitment is the ending of the "Kanazawa City" mission when you have to fight the elite samurai in the small camp with a few guards, I was really expecting this guy to put up a fight like the game warned you, I was not expecting to be able to kill him and half of his troups with only one shot.

[Facemeister]

I found the story to be just right. I suspect Noboru since his first showing up in the game. Usualy the brother of the "King" will always be high on the list of plotters. This game suffers simillar thing like in Desperados. There are just not too many characters in it to choose. After the death of Yabu and Okotto, there are only Noboru or Masaru left. Only other choice is to bring new person in, but that isn't a great solution.

Inspite of it why I like the story? It have one big plot twist. I never suspect someone in our team actually dies. In all of those games like Commandos, Desperados, Robin Hood you never lose main character like this.

One thing that is bothering me - what was that last dialogue between Mugen and Aiko. They were lovers and she is revealing something to him, just before he dies. His response is "something ends, something starts" so my first guess is that Aiko is pregnant with him. But later its never mentioned. Did I missed an important dialogue?

[Vault Traveler]

Originally posted by Facemeister:

I found the story to be just right. I suspect Noboru since his first showing up in the game. Usualy the brother of the "King" will always be high on the list of plotters. This game suffers simillar thing like in Desperados. There are just not too many characters in it to choose. After the death of Yabu and Okotto, there are only Noboru or Masaru left. Only other choice is to bring new person in, but that isn't a great solution.

Inspite of it why I like the story? It have one big plot twist. I never suspect someone in our team actually dies. In all of those games like Commandos, Desperados, Robin Hood you never lose main character like this.

One thing that is bothering me - what was that last dialogue between Mugen and Aiko. They were lovers and she is revealing something to him, just before he dies. His response is "something ends, something starts" so my first guess is that Aiko is pregnant with him. But later its never mentioned. Did I missed an important dialogue?

She is indeed pregnant and mugen is the father, their child will probably the next shogun (she offers him her own blood), i believe Aiko does have pissed so many people with her job that she and most mugen want to kept their child as a secret to protect him.

[TheRailTracer]

Originally posted by Facemeister:

They were lovers and she is revealing something to him, just before he dies. His response is "something ends, something starts" so my first guess is that Aiko is pregnant with him. But later its never mentioned. Did I missed an important dialogue?

Yeah that should be it. Everyone thinks that he is the child that was "given" to the shogun.

[Facemeister]

So the Shogun would accept Mugens' son as his own? Im curious because many rulers in that days were all about their line, heritage. That idea seems to have great potential, at least for me. Im speaking about possible sequel. For example few years later some plotters trying to assasinate young shogun son, and group of old friends trying to stop it.

[TheRailTracer]

Shogun's blood line isn't as critical as say... the emperor, it is still iffy but I guess a little plausible. I still have my doubts about that theory but it seems pausible if the Shogun was not able to have a new child. He could raise Mugen's son as part of his clan and as a son to be the next heir. The shogun doesn't seem to care THAT much about origins, since Mugen was aparently a commoner(according to Masaru) and ended being pretty much the Shogun's left(right being his brother and traitor) hand and personal guard and trainer of the Shogun's son.

Again, I have my doubts about that ending but doesn't seem too crazy... maybe?

[semenant]

Nah, i agree. Aiko's pregnant but she cannot possibly raise her child properly with her kind of job. Shogun accepting a child is far from implausible. Not only he had a truckton of gratitude to the now-dead-Mugen, he is without an heir, so country will go into civil war after his death. So yeah, accepting a child is a no-braner for him. And good luck finding an alternative while keeping the same level of secrecy as with loyal-to-death kunoichi

[Facemeister]

If they tried to kill her son, she could turn in Black Mamba from Kill Bill

[yangxiaobv7]

Aiko is my favortie. She is very calm and she do the best for her love.