Killing Samurai without Mugen

[Pippin123]

Just checking:
When you shoot a samurai, do they always turn towards the shot and start firing ?
Or is there a way to keep them facing away from you when you shoot them in the back.

I was trying to do the Time Paradox achievement, and after clearing out all the nearby guards, I was left with a group of three : Okkoto (samurai), a samurai and an officer, standing next to a fire.

My original plan was stone throw > Shadow Mode Execution squad (3 shots) then run to finish them, but they always instantly turned around and unloaded on the nearest kunoichi.

I did manage to do it after several reloads, but it was a sacrifical run, and the surviving samurai would have killed hayato in the next second. "Luckily", the achievement is also its own game-over condition...

Is there a "smarter" way to do this ?

[mopple]

You can shoot from a hidden place (crouched in stiped area) and then stab them in the back from the other side. There is enough time to stab the two of them with one character one after the other.

[Sitrus]

Or you can shoot them from an amount of distance, their viewcone will decrease while stun to very small so they cannot see you if you far enough.

[Alex]

They always turn towards the shooter.
You also can drop bodies on them to knock them out, but you need to be above.

[Pippin123]

Thanks.
I guess my mistake was shooting from the top of the tower. Too far to run and finish them quickly, too close for them not to see me.

[Corral Parking Services]

I just got to mission 11 and there are a bunch of samurai on the map. I'm pretty sure I need to take at least one of them down based on the corner I've painted myself into. Is my only option the wrist gun? I was hoping for something... quieter, since the map is so densely populated. Are there other ways to take down samurai besides the gun + melee combo?

[Pippin123]

That's borderline exploit, but if you can knock out a samurai by throwing a body/vase etc on them from above, you can them finish them off with your basic attack.

[vczh]

You can kill everyone else first, which is also fun. By asking Mugen to use the "Kindergarten Technique" to ask the bull to kill the 2nd-3rd samurai pair, you will have enough bullets just for everyone.

[Cid Silverwing]

Necro, but...

When you shoot an enemy Samurai with anyone except Mugen, they ALWAYS turn in the direction of the shooter but their vision will shrink severely. You have maybe 30-ish seconds to get Hayato, Yuki or Aiko into position to stab the Samurai, who while STILL able to shoot back, can't counter you anymore.

Be advised that Takuma can also shoot Samurai for the same effect with both his guns, but his grenades WILL kill Samurai too. The only other way to kill a Samurai without Mugen is to drop objects on them, like a vase or cargo hanging from rope, or an explosive barrel.

Not that the game tells you, but while Samurai act like Straw Hats where Hayato's rocks, Yuki's flute and Takuma's pet tanuki Kuma are concerned, Samurai WILL walk towards Hayato if he throws his Shuriken at them - the ONE tool you have that can force a Samurai away from their patrol/post.

[Karlan]

Agree with mopple