Have bugs or technical problems? Tell us about them here!

[jordanfwc]

With the release of our first bugfix patch today, we hope we've resolved many of the issues people experienced with Cally's Caves 3. We are posting this thread to leave here for anyone that wants to let us know about any issue they might have going forward. If you post it here, we will get to resolving it ASAP.
Thanks everyone!
Jordan

[Setsune]

I've tried completely redownloading the game, as well as running it in Compatibility Mode, but whenever I launch it, Steam shows it as running for only a moment, before closing. No sound or video from the game itself. Windows 10, 64 Bit.

Edit: Apparently this is an issue with Steam, opting out of the Beta fixed it.

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by Azure Dream:

I've tried completely redownloading the game, as well as running it in Compatibility Mode, but whenever I launch it, Steam shows it as running for only a moment, before closing. No sound or video from the game itself. Windows 10, 64 Bit.

Edit: Apparently this is an issue with Steam, opting out of the Beta fixed it.

thank you for letting us know! we will try and let anyone else that has the problem know. we really appreciate it!
Jordan

[Cavalcadence]

Found a "permanent knockback state" bug that prevented me from finishing Bonus Level 3... and oddly, also prevented the "Diaries" stat from resetting. In other words, I wasn't able to get the Final weapon from Bonus 3... and because the Diary stat didn't reset, I wasn't able to get back to Bonus 3 by collecting the Diaries again (since the diaries didn't reset, they weren't available to be collected again). =/

I did some testing, and have managed to reproduce the bug twice now. However, it does seem to be somewhat difficult to trigger, so it's probably not going to be something players encounter often... but if a player is working towards getting Level 20 for all weapons, encountering this bug does mean having to delete the save file and starting completely over (or restoring to a more recent backup, if you'd been regularly backing up your save file).


Anyway, from what I can tell, here's what's going on:
- If Cally gets hit by an enemy while being teleported to a Bonus Level, if the timing is right, she'll actually start the Bonus Level in knockback state.
- The knockback state does not expire like it normally does, so Cally ends up in permanent knockback state... which means she'll start the level getting pushed back until she hits a wall... then she'll be unable to move move from that wall.
- During the permanent knockback, Cally cannot walk or roll, but she can jump, switch weapons, and use weapons. Unfortunately, none of these actions cause the knockback state to end. =/
- Normally, collecting the 16th Diary causes the Diary stat to reset, but for some reason, when Cally starts Bonus 3 in knockback state, instead of resetting, the stat shows 16/16 Diaries. Quitting and reloading the game doesn't reset the stat, and collecing the final two Diaries will cause the stat to increase to 18/16... but again, won't reset the stat. And if you go back to previous levels and try to collect the Diaries again, they won't be there. =/

Anyway, here's the video (Unlisted on youtube, so use the link below):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9AAyMhuTc

Hopefully the video will help you narrow down what's causing the bug (or bugs, if the Diary stat not reseting turns out to be a separate bug!), and more importantly, how to fix it. =)

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by Cavalcadence:

Found a "permanent knockback state" bug that prevented me from finishing Bonus Level 3... and oddly, also prevented the "Diaries" stat from resetting. In other words, I wasn't able to get the Final weapon from Bonus 3... and because the Diary stat didn't reset, I wasn't able to get back to Bonus 3 by collecting the Diaries again (since the diaries didn't reset, they weren't available to be collected again). =/

I did some testing, and have managed to reproduce the bug twice now. However, it does seem to be somewhat difficult to trigger, so it's probably not going to be something players encounter often... but if a player is working towards getting Level 20 for all weapons, encountering this bug does mean having to delete the save file and starting completely over (or restoring to a more recent backup, if you'd been regularly backing up your save file).


Anyway, from what I can tell, here's what's going on:
- If Cally gets hit by an enemy while being teleported to a Bonus Level, if the timing is right, she'll actually start the Bonus Level in knockback state.
- The knockback state does not expire like it normally does, so Cally ends up in permanent knockback state... which means she'll start the level getting pushed back until she hits a wall... then she'll be unable to move move from that wall.
- During the permanent knockback, Cally cannot walk or roll, but she can jump, switch weapons, and use weapons. Unfortunately, none of these actions cause the knockback state to end. =/
- Normally, collecting the 16th Diary causes the Diary stat to reset, but for some reason, when Cally starts Bonus 3 in knockback state, instead of resetting, the stat shows 16/16 Diaries. Quitting and reloading the game doesn't reset the stat, and collecing the final two Diaries will cause the stat to increase to 18/16... but again, won't reset the stat. And if you go back to previous levels and try to collect the Diaries again, they won't be there. =/

Anyway, here's the video (Unlisted on youtube, so use the link below):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9AAyMhuTc

Hopefully the video will help you narrow down what's causing the bug (or bugs, if the Diary stat not reseting turns out to be a separate bug!), and more importantly, how to fix it. =)

Hey Cavalcadence, thanks so much for letting us know about the bug. That is a crazy sequence of events to lead to it! I think we need to add in a manual reset collectibles button or something - there's also an area in the bera section in herbert's lab where a diary can be missed. Thanks for supporting our game, and thanks for taking the time to let us know about this bug! We are on it!!
If you want to get the diaries - go to the savefile.ini and look for the global.diariescollected stat and change it, I would recommend making a copy of the ini file first just to be safe in case it messes anything up.
Thanks again for taking the time to write us this, that means a lot to us!
Jordan

[SnoutUp]

Hey, here's an interesting idea one of the player's posted in my forums, which apparently can solve the end-game crashes (if anyone is experiencing them). Some GM games just have that issue.

"How I fixed end game crashes
Ctrl+shift+esc(task manager), find process for this game, right click, set priority to the highest(it's real-time for me)."

[isaac13_13]

I'm having difficulty binding 'jump' to "up_arrow" the game seems to crash when I attempt this.
Also, any way to make it so that I don't have to rebind my graphics everytime I reload the game? The second one is a minor bug, so I'd rather see the first one fixed first.

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by isaac13_13:

I'm having difficulty binding 'jump' to "up_arrow" the game seems to crash when I attempt this.
Also, any way to make it so that I don't have to rebind my graphics everytime I reload the game? The second one is a minor bug, so I'd rather see the first one fixed first.

We are working on a patch for next week - thats weird about the up arrow - i will definitely make sure its fixed!
Also, the graphics settings should be saving so let me look into that, i will definitely get both these bugs addressed. Thanks for letting us know, and for playing our game!
Jordan

[isaac13_13]

Originally posted by jordanfwc:

We are working on a patch for next week - thats weird about the up arrow - i will definitely make sure its fixed!
Also, the graphics settings should be saving so let me look into that, i will definitely get both these bugs addressed. Thanks for letting us know, and for playing our game!
Jordan

Ahh! I should be clearer! The graphics ARE saving, but the menu bar on the edges of the screen are transparent... it may be my computer, or you guys, so that's why I said it was unimportant, I just have to reload the graphics to reset it.
Thanks for the free copy, and thanks for the music!

[Griefor]

You know that opening splash that's a very wide window with low height? My game stay in a window of that resolution after the splash, then as the menu shows stretched into that aspect ratio, this error occurs:
___________________________________________
############################################################################################
FATAL ERROR in
action number 1
of Create Event
for object obj_newmapscreen:

Variable obj_newmapscreen.zone(100051, -2147483648) not set before reading it.
at gml_Object_obj_newmapscreen_Create_0
############################################################################################

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by Griefor:

You know that opening splash that's a very wide window with low height? My game stay in a window of that resolution after the splash, then as the menu shows stretched into that aspect ratio, this error occurs:
___________________________________________
############################################################################################
FATAL ERROR in
action number 1
of Create Event
for object obj_newmapscreen:

Variable obj_newmapscreen.zone(100051, -2147483648) not set before reading it.
at gml_Object_obj_newmapscreen_Create_0
############################################################################################

hmm ok, firstly, what is the resolution of your monitor?
If you delete the save file in c:/users/*yourusername*/cc3_steamgreenlight and try starting again, it should reset the graphics settings and hopefully initialize properly. I am looking into what else could be causing it! sorry about the error,
Jordan

[OmegaRosey]

Hey, great game! I can't get the roll move working with an Xbox 360 controller or a steam controller. LB and RB seem to do nothing.

[VGD]

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me?

I found all the Diairies and went into the bonus area. I got to the end where the Final Rocket Launcher is. I just wanted to see what was past it, so I jumped over it and accidently flew into the next beam of light which EXITS THE AREA.
I spanwed back out into the previous level, so I jumped down again to see if I could pick up the Diary again to go back in to get the Final Rocket Launcher. It said 1/16 after i picked it up.

I tried resetting the game here, and going back to that room. Now there's NO DIARY AT ALL.

So are you telling me I'm now permanently blocked from getting that, and thus the 'Max all weapons' achievement? This is real ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And I don't want to reset the entire game again which is 10+ hours of gameplay so far.

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Thief:

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me?

I found all the Diairies and went into the bonus area. I got to the end where the Final Rocket Launcher is. I just wanted to see what was past it, so I jumped over it and accidently flew into the next beam of light which EXITS THE AREA.
I spanwed back out into the previous level, so I jumped down again to see if I could pick up the Diary again to go back in to get the Final Rocket Launcher. It said 1/16 after i picked it up.

I tried resetting the game here, and going back to that room. Now there's NO DIARY AT ALL.

So are you telling me I'm now permanently blocked from getting that, and thus the 'Max all weapons' achievement? This is real ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And I don't want to reset the entire game again which is 10+ hours of gameplay so far.

im so sorry that happened :( originally you could only enter bonus rooms once, then people asked us to reset collectibles after entering the room - and its safe to say now that I bungled the collectible system with regards to the bonus rooms. You could collect all the diaries again - but there's no collectible tracker, only a list on our website. We are 100% commited to imrpoving the system in every way for our next game, and we are trying to add in some way to warp back to the bonus rooms in cc3. Sorry agian baout that though :(
Jordan

Originally posted by OmegaRosey:

Hey, great game! I can't get the roll move working with an Xbox 360 controller or a steam controller. LB and RB seem to do nothing.

Thanks for letting us know, we have a patch coming out in the next couple of days, please let me know if it fixes the problem!

[VGD]

I've pretty much uninstalled it cause it just killed off my entire interest in the game, unless this gets fixed. Couldn't you just NOT let the player leave the bonus room until they've collected the power up?

Edit: I actually do video game testing as my job, so alot of 'accidental breaking' happens even when I'm just trying to casually enjoy a game on my off-time. This sucks.

[jordanfwc]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Thief:

I've pretty much uninstalled it cause it just killed off my entire interest in the game, unless this gets fixed. Couldn't you just NOT let the player leave the bonus room until they've collected the power up?

Edit: I actually do video game testing as my job, so alot of 'accidental breaking' happens even when I'm just trying to casually enjoy a game on my off-time. This sucks.

yeah im really sorry about that, the truth is we are aspiring devs and we've had to learn some lesson the hard way. We won't lack that attention to detail again in the future, and i do really apologize,
Jordan