Silencers/silent weapons

[nene]

Pleas add some kind of silencers or silent weapons pleas pleas pleas

[PhoenixOfArcadia]

Originally posted by Infected Mushroom:

Originally posted by Squids have curves:

Welrods were basically melee-range single-shot silenced pistols, at least no one would call it an OP weapon.

they wouldn't be op in a real life setting since they were still quite loud, but not as loud as without a suppressor. Someone could hear the sub sonic shot within distance.

Suppressor in general like I said were very rare, and only the british used them with their commandos.

The Welrod was actually suprisingly near silent compared to most attempts at suppressors, but granted it was a massive suppressor to muffle .32 Auto.

And even then, it wouldn't be all to suprising if the Raid Gang was supplied suppressors, or at least Welrods. They are supplied and funded partially by the British SOE (Special Operations Exectutive). The same people who were giving suppressed Stens, DeLisle Carbines, and Welrods to SAS Commandos.

Of course though, only the flipside, I can understand why not. The whole point of what the Raid Gang is doing is going around smashing high value German targets and stealing their gold, and making as big of an attempt to be known by everyone in Germany as a result. Sometimes going sneaky with suppressed weapons isn't the best way when you want to make that happen.

[Rubedog]

Gimme my Welrod!

[Saladofstones]

Originally posted by Infected Mushroom:

Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:

And these guys are basically mercenaries who steal nazi gold. I'm pretty sure they would be able to find and could afford a silenced weapon.

I don't think you understand how rare they were, Suppressors were still relatively rare in the 1940s and most soldiers wouldn’t have known they existed, let alone how to improvise one in the field. Only games and hollywood make up how they existed in mass during the period.

There are three options

De Lisle Carbine, silenced sten, welrod

[Owen]

Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:

I think we should have at least a silenced pistol to help with stealth for a little bit of distance. So we aren't walking right up to their faces to kill them.

thats why there are knives

[Failure incarnate]

Originally posted by Infected Mushroom:

Originally posted by Squids have curves:

Welrods were basically melee-range single-shot silenced pistols, at least no one would call it an OP weapon.

they wouldn't be op in a real life setting since they were still quite loud, but not as loud as without a suppressor. Someone could hear the sub sonic shot within distance.

Suppressor in general like I said were very rare, and only the british used them with their commandos. America had their own versions down the line, but I don't remember if they ever had any combat use during the 40's.. the soviets had suppressors for their mosin-nagants at one point, but I believe that was after the war.

True, true.

Now on a side note, this weapon wouldn't do much good in the game's current state anyway, never got to test it myself but according to quite some people the AI can smell you through walls when trying to sneak, silencer or not.

Gotta patch the übermenschen first I suppose.

[Landor]

No thanks, I prefer how the stealth is balanced around being free to kill however many guards you want, but you have to ether get in close for a stab, or be far enough from other guards that a gunshot doesn't alert them.

I also like how you don't have a stealth or loud build, you just have loud and stealth weapons that fit in to different slots. You don't need to restart a mission because it went loud and all you have are stealth weapons and skills. You also don't need to kick somone because they brought a loud/stealth build when you are doing the opposite to that.

At most, maybe a throwing knife, but that would be pushing it. It also shouldn't take any existing slot, save perhaps being a part of the melee.

[nesagsar]

I'm just going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hNLrDbw8nc

[TheAshenOne]

Silenced pistol in 1939 LUL pwees guys

[TrapDullahan]

Originally posted by Infected Mushroom:

Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:

And these guys are basically mercenaries who steal nazi gold. I'm pretty sure they would be able to find and could afford a silenced weapon.

I don't think you understand how rare they were, Suppressors were still relatively rare in the 1940s and most soldiers wouldn’t have known they existed, let alone how to improvise one in the field. Only games and hollywood make up how they existed in mass during the period.

there was that 1 bullit at a time gun that the barrle was a suppressor but only found in asia

[A Flaming Carrot Stick]

I had an idea. What if they took a Sniper Elite inspiration and made silenced ammo a limited amount. When you ran out your weapon becomes loud again. The trade off is that that ammunition does significantly less damage. Anyone like it?

[ユーミ]

nagant revolver had a silencer. hype russian technology

[Vedious]

Being able to take throwing knives, or something similar, instead of grenades should be just fine. Given how stealth works, being able to take a proper silenced weapon into a stealth mission would make it far too easy, since you'd just shoot everyone before they'd have a chance to shoot back, or react, without caring too much about who might see it (ruining the point of a stealth mission).

[Infected Mushroom]

Originally posted by Tanya_the_Evil:

nagant revolver had a silencer. hype russian technology

The suppressor didn't exist during ww2 it was a bulky mess made in the late 50's by the KGB. Most of the nagant revolver today are using modern day suppressors as the originals literally don't exist or are in a museum.

[Salem]

Originally posted by Vedious:

Being able to take throwing knives, or something similar, instead of grenades should be just fine.

Agreed about the rest of your post but this wouldn't work when ranged kills would really shine, aka when you're spotted from afar, because of the time required to swap from melee knife to.. knives that actually can be thrown?

Throwing your melee weapon directly with RMB would be much faster and easier, and as you only have one it would mean only one chance to save stealth, no chain kill abuse, having to retrieve it on bodies (or where it landed in general), and being left unarmed as long as you don't go and look for it. Which is overall more interesting.
Not to mention that unlike adding throwing knives to replace nades and adding silenced weapons, it doesn't create particular "stealth builds", thus less incentive to restart after failing, like PDTH (and RAID shares that philosophy).

[Rotheilm]

Originally posted by Landor:

No thanks, I prefer how the stealth is balanced around being free to kill however many guards you want, but you have to ether get in close for a stab, or be far enough from other guards that a gunshot doesn't alert them.

I also like how you don't have a stealth or loud build, you just have loud and stealth weapons that fit in to different slots. You don't need to restart a mission because it went loud and all you have are stealth weapons and skills. You also don't need to kick somone because they brought a loud/stealth build when you are doing the opposite to that.

(..).

Agree, + im pretty sure i read somewhere on this forum that the devs doesn't plan to add silenced weapon since it would break the experience they want us to have and make the game too easy. A throwing knife was mentioned as a possible option.