Push the cart to the gate w/ Marta I NEED HELP

[Zoey Huntsman]

I've been stuck on this for 2 hours now. NO MATTER WHAT I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DO I CANNOT ESCAPE HER. IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO OUTSMART THIS ♥♥♥♥♥ BECAUSE SHE T E L E P O R T S TO YOUR ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOCATION.

How do I know this? Well, because no matter where she wanders t,o SHE WILL, WITHOUT FAIL, BE AROUND THE CORNER I AM ABOUT TO GO TO. She can be two houses away on the other side of the road, but will somehow instantly bust through the fence to the back alley.

I found a guide on how to do this, where you walk up to the cart, and when she comes you turn around and crawl through the hole in the fence. You wait for her to head down the road, and then get out and quickly push it. However, even though she was headed down the street, she will within about 3 seconds after I start pushing the cart, just bust through the fence next to where she originally spawns. Seriously? HOW?

I can't book it back to the crucified Jesus/forge/initial gate area because when I do, she pops up in the alley behind the forge, or if I try to go on the walkway on the other side of the houses across the way, she'll instantly be around that corner. If I go back down the street, she'll actually do what she is supposed to do and not teleport, and instead wait for me at the end of the street, where I need to push the cart.

I can't go to the little corner courtyard, with the fire and the little preacher stand thingy (idk what else to call it) because she'll chase me there, I'll hide in the barrels, she'll walk out one exit and when I try to go around the other exit 40 METERS away she magically pops up there just around the corner. If I just decide to follow her out the exist she goes, she'll go around the corner, disappear and then pop up around the next corner to get to the street. If I wait there in hopes for her to do another cycle, she repeats the whole thing, with the same results. If I stand in the courtyard outside the barrels there, she'll just bust down the fence and find me there.

I'm on nightmare, so getting caught within 10 meters of this ♥♥♥♥♥ is pretty much a death sentence, so I can't just tank the hits when she pops up around a corner.

What the actual ♥♥♥♥ Red Barrels??? What kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gameplay is this? I am required to outsmart the AI but I can't because no matter where I go and where it goes I end up right at its feet?

This ♥♥♥♥ happened in the first game too, and I was hoping it wouldn't make an appearence. At least in the first game the enemies didn't just teleport, rather they agro'ed from where they were.

Anyway, end rant, I desperately need help with this. I've had my brother sitting here for an hour trying to help me, as he played on nightmare as well, but for some reason Marta would just stick to one area and let him push.

If I seem angry and salty, that's because I am.

[Lauwtje]

D*mn that's frustrating.. I waited behind the hole in the fence until she wandered away, then push the card a little en hide again. (Maybe not the fastest of best move, but i got through) repeat..

I hope you'll get it soon, good luck!

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by Lauwtje:

D*mn that's frustrating.. I waited behind the hole in the fence until she wandered away, then push the card a little en hide again. (Maybe not the fastest of best move, but i got through) repeat..

I hope you'll get it soon, good luck!

So, if I try rinsing and repeating that, you think I can do it? I'll try it later when I have the time and feel up to it. I'll report back.

[macatak]

i did the same, just push the cart bit by bit....i was playing on Normal though

[BinaryGhost]

I played on normal. What I did was make her follow me to the end of the street, then ran back to the cart and started pushing it. I was expecting her to appear and force me to get her to chase me again, but I managed to push the cart the whole way before she finally caught up.

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by BinaryGhost:

I played on normal. What I did was make her follow me to the end of the street, then ran back to the cart and started pushing it. I was expecting her to appear and force me to get her to chase me again, but I managed to push the cart the whole way before she finally caught up.

The thing is, no matter which way I go, she'll instantly be there. Back ally, side walkway, or street, she will always be there. NO MATTER where she is. It's pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Helhammer]

Maybe you're not baiting her far enough away? I got it in 2-3 tries. Be sure you're going a significant distance away (like waaaay back around the entry to the area then break sight with her and book it back to the cart.

Keep in mind, even with good baiting it may take several rounds of pushing the cart before you can climb on top and get over the gate.

I agree this is frustrating. Good luck.

[[H34D]L3SSH3D(0f)ST4T3]

It's kind of funny how she keeps teleporting behind you and stabbing you in the groin as soon as you start pushing the cart

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by H34DL3SSH3D(0f)ST4T3:

It's kind of funny how she keeps teleporting behind you and stabbing you in the groin as soon as you start pushing the cart

After another painful hour, I let my brother try it and he got past it. I thought maybe I was just bad or something and it just SEEMED she was teleporting, when I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time for the dozens of attempts I made. But my brother noticed the same teleporting I did.

It's undeniable when she went walking down the road back to the other gate way way back at the beginning and then 2 seconds after pushing the cart she popped through the fence, despite her needing to have popped through 2 fences, and walked half the alley way OR have taking an even longer route around all the houses and through the alley way to get to that spot to bust through the fence next to the cart.

I don't think it takes 2 seconds for her to go either of those paths, when she doesn't run faster than the player and it takes the player who is running a good 8 to 15 seconds to get through all of that.

My brother thinks maybe there is some bugginess with the AI and its location, as he didn't have a single problem with this. Maybe the AI is finding the best route to the player, and then doesn't take it? It instead instantly goes there? But then why is it that she was around every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corner I was? Maybe it's bad luck and a glitchy AI.

If it's a glitch, it must be rare, because others don't seem to have a problem with it. If this is a gameplay feature it's absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Red Barrels should feel ashamed of it.

[[H34D]L3SSH3D(0f)ST4T3]

There's an earlier part too where you need to push a bookshelf, but every time you put your hands on the bookshelf a guy appears behind you no matter what

[BinaryGhost]

Originally posted by Cael Thavain #TF2SP:

My brother thinks maybe there is some bugginess with the AI and its location, as he didn't have a single problem with this. Maybe the AI is finding the best route to the player, and then doesn't take it? It instead instantly goes there? But then why is it that she was around every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corner I was? Maybe it's bad luck and a glitchy AI.

If it's a glitch, it must be rare, because others don't seem to have a problem with it. If this is a gameplay feature it's absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Red Barrels should feel ashamed of it.

What difficulty are you playing on?

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by BinaryGhost:

Originally posted by Cael Thavain #TF2SP:

My brother thinks maybe there is some bugginess with the AI and its location, as he didn't have a single problem with this. Maybe the AI is finding the best route to the player, and then doesn't take it? It instead instantly goes there? But then why is it that she was around every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corner I was? Maybe it's bad luck and a glitchy AI.

If it's a glitch, it must be rare, because others don't seem to have a problem with it. If this is a gameplay feature it's absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and Red Barrels should feel ashamed of it.

What difficulty are you playing on?

Nightmare

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by H34DL3SSH3D(0f)ST4T3:

There's an earlier part too where you need to push a bookshelf, but every time you put your hands on the bookshelf a guy appears behind you no matter what

I didn't have that happen though. He was chasing me down the little hall and then I went down the stairs and it took a good 5 seconds for him to get to me and when I looked up there I saw him actually heading down the stairs.

wtf is this inconsistency with the enemies and AI?????

[Lauwtje]

He Cael Thavain #TF2SP, you got it?? :)

[Zoey Huntsman]

Originally posted by Lauwtje:

He Cael Thavain #TF2SP, you got it?? :)

Yeah I got it.

[Neptune]

Might be late to reply, but what worked for me is to bait her to break the fence, then crawl through the hole and push the cart a bit. When you hear her screaming again - run back to the hole in the fence, wait for her to approach you on the other side, climb back and push the cart again. Repeat until you push it to the gate and jump to the other side ASAP. Was playing on nightmare mode.