Who Is the real Villian ?

[Tsarinae]

So yes Junko according to the game - is basic the biblical Evil all bad things lead back to her and she is basically to blame for everything. Now i want to make it clear - i Agree Junko is bad. But i think its a bit much to say the events that happen are entirely solely her fault

I think the Administration of Hope's Peak Academy itself holds a lot of responsibility for what happened. There is trope where evil scientist experiment on a person to make the ultimate solider or human weapon. I feel that they way Hope's Peak academy collected all they elites of society and wanted to nurture and educate them is that idea in the extreme. They have a major hand in shaping every facet of society from the crime lords/yakuza, mental health to the wealthy. Personally i get a sinister feel to it. Then there is the bullying they let happen, experimenting on children. The principle's and the recruiters I’ve seen so far are mostly depicted as victims ( though we don’t see them much in the first place.

Even if Junko didn't elevate the reaction to what was happening at the school, surely something would have went down eventually. She just make it worst. What are our thoughts?

[Fedex780]

Цитата допису BlueMage:

Цитата допису Fedex780:

I thought the same thing, because if Izuru was sympathetic enough to leave flowers, even after the tragedy (both Hope's Peak and Humanity), wouldn't he be sympathetic enough, or atleast have a memory of Chiaki?

They did make memories together, didn't they?

I have a feeling that DanganRonpa 0 might have a hand in this story.

DR 0 focuses on an entirely different cast of characters (with a few exceptions) and starts off right after Hope's Peak Most Tragic Incident. They don't really say much about Izuru himself (only hint at/mention certain stuff) and only talk about the events surrounding him.

That's the reason I mentioned it, because that's when we learned how Junko could erase memories, and that Ryouta wasn't even who she thought she was. My thought is that maybe Izuru was there, but it was someone else who caused the incident, and maybe just didn't remember.

[BlueMage]

Цитата допису Fedex780:

Цитата допису BlueMage:

DR 0 focuses on an entirely different cast of characters (with a few exceptions) and starts off right after Hope's Peak Most Tragic Incident. They don't really say much about Izuru himself (only hint at/mention certain stuff) and only talk about the events surrounding him.

That's the reason I mentioned it, because that's when we learned how Junko could erase memories, and that Ryouta wasn't even who she thought she was. My thought is that maybe Izuru was there, but it was someone else who caused the incident, and maybe just didn't remember.

Oh, I see. Well, I hope that's really not the case to be honest as I think that's a pretty lame plot-twist. That would basically save Izuru in a pretty boring way. I can see him not killing everyone, but killing no one? I'd think Junko would know better. Her whole objective was to break Izuru after all and making him kill someone is way worse than making him think he killed someone.

[Fedex780]

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Цитата допису Fedex780:

That's the reason I mentioned it, because that's when we learned how Junko could erase memories, and that Ryouta wasn't even who she thought she was. My thought is that maybe Izuru was there, but it was someone else who caused the incident, and maybe just didn't remember.

Oh, I see. Well, I hope that's really not the case to be honest as I think that's a pretty lame plot-twist. That would basically save Izuru in a pretty boring way. I can see him not killing everyone, but killing no one? I'd think Junko would know better. Her whole objective was to break Izuru after all and making him kill someone is way worse than making him think he killed someone.

But remember how the only other person to have survived the incident at hope's peak was the super high school level class president, and no details of the event were ever released, so it could be anyone from him, to Izuru, to Ryouta, to even Mukuro. We'll learn soon enough, but I'm excited to what will happen.

[Fedex780]

So, it isn't Monaca. Munakata seems likely, but that seems far fetched. Mitarai is suspicious, so he's still a candidate. And unless Kodaka pulls a third times the charm with Junko, I don't think it'll be her.

So, what if in the Despair arc, Chiaki doesn't die...

food for thought.

[Fedex780]

Chiaki isn't dead...

[Darkfiro]

Цитата допису Fedex780:

Chiaki isn't dead...

Yet...

[Fedex780]

Цитата допису Darkfiro:

Цитата допису Fedex780:

Chiaki isn't dead...

Yet...:monokuma_DGR:

Don't toy with my emotions

[Tsarinae]

this was posted before Despair arc even came out ..i was wondering why i was getting mail

how do i close this thread ? xp

[Protocol27]

Цитата допису Tsarinae:

this was posted before Despair arc even came out ..i was wondering why i was getting mail

how do i close this thread ? xp

You can't close it by this point although you can unsubscribe from the discussion to stop getting mail, it's to the top right.

[Fedex780]

So, Tengen was the mastermind, and Ryota was the 'hope'. People have been saying the concept that a hope killing game is dumb, but it makes perfect sense in danganronpa. See, Tengen had a reason for doing it.

Mitarai saw what his talent had done, and so he perfected the hope anime he wanted. He had it the entire time, but he remembered what Junko used it for too. Not only that, he couldnt use his talents to save them as to prove a point. Tengen probably knew about mitarai's talent and involvement with the 77th class, and most likely couldnt get him to agree to the broadcast. So, this killing game was a 'false despair', made in the name of creating the Anti-Junko.

[Fedex780]

So, in essence, Mitarai is for human instrumentality, taking away theri ability to be human
Junko was for chaos, letting people become their inner beast
and Naegi and Hajime are in between; those who have true hope

[KenM2]

Цитата допису Protocol27:

I will admit what the school did was awful, especially to Hajime...

However, the tragedy would of never happened if Junko didn't turn the cast of the second game (minus Chiaki) into ultimate despairs, which she was doing at the time of the experiments. Heck, Izuru wouldn't of killed anyone if Junko didn't break his spirit. Even if the school didn't do what they did, the others would of already been ultimate despairs, and the tragedy would of more then likely still happened, just with one less person.

But in the end... without Izaru, Junko would have been stopped by Nagito. That still leaves her sister, but if Peko herself was able to manage herself with Mukuro, I'm sure 77th class would be able to take care of Mukuro together. With that said, Junko is the Ultimate Analyst, so she would have likely made other plans if Izaru never happened, but she definitely wasn't expecting Nagito to show up and definitely would have died if it wasn't for Izaru.

[NgzeroNigel]

I say the closest we get to a villian in Danganronpa are the hope peak Administration, even principal Kirigiri. Also Junko isn't really a bad person and it should be known how often Junko could have been stopped. Junko could have been stopped by friends and other people like Juzo but she mentions things that effect people hearts, basically she wanted someone to betray the heart for the greater good but since most human were selfish and only thought of their own desires this is what happened. The Hope Peak Administration didn't really care for how many students died all they care about was their continued learning of these ultimate hopes.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Цитата допису Rollout:

The real villain...

No joke...

Is a book.

Danganronpa: Togami revealed that the source of all the Despair is a book that, when read, inflicts the reader with the Despair Virus. That is the source of all the Despair.

Two years late, don't care. DR Togami isn't canon. Do not take anything it says seriously.

[Monsieur Crow]

Цитата допису Battler Ushiromiya:

Цитата допису Rollout:

The real villain...

No joke...

Is a book.

Danganronpa: Togami revealed that the source of all the Despair is a book that, when read, inflicts the reader with the Despair Virus. That is the source of all the Despair.

Two years late, don't care. DR Togami isn't canon. Do not take anything it says seriously.

All installments, light novels, and supplemental material are canon until proven non-canon.

Wait, was that the one where the hack author defended how great his garbage book was in the middle of a chapter? Yeah, ♥♥♥♥ DR Togami with a long rusty pole.