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For the Leon-Sayaka event, the manga states that Sayaka briefly hesitated before attacking Leon, during which Leon questions her intentions and asks if she thinks Monokuma will genuinely let her graduate if she gets away with the murder. In her silence, Leon quickly grabs the sword and tries to disarm Sayaka by breaking her wrist; while successful in breaking her wrist, she is still able to flee into the bathroom with the knife in tow. Leon is given the option to run away, but instead chooses to break down the door to the bathroom with his toolkit in order to try and calm down the still-hysterical Sayaka (reminder that IF and some drama CDs suggest Leon has a thing for Sayaka, since he wants to become the Ultimate Musician); upon doing so, however, Sayaka immediately jumps forward and tries to attack him. In the ensuing struggle, Leon ends up accidentally murdering Sayaka, leading to his haphazard attempts to hide the crime. Provides an interesting change of pace, I actually would've loved to see this be mentioned in the game.
For Gundham, you can actually make similar arguments for him as you can for Celeste. Both are individuals who hate their actual backstories and personalities, and their delusions could potentially be what causes them to have such a skewed outlook on life. Celeste murders to try and continue to uphold her gothic and prim persona, while Gundham chooses not to commit suicide because his dark side would only accept a trip straight to hell from a murder.
Exactly, it's that delusional side that makes them so extremely interesting to me. Seeing Celestia under someone like Teruteru that drugs someone is simply appalling to me.. After all, you can have NO sympathetic reason for drugging someone. No matter how you look at it, every single murder in Danganronpa is more sympathetic than drugging someone/taking advantage of someone's mental state for *that*. After all, they were all under considerable stress in the way of being able to die at any time, and the only clear way out of the situation to murder and get away with it.
I really, really wonder why you think that way when looking at the situation they are currently in.. Drugging someone is entirely unrelated to their situation and is no way out of said situation, and thus should be much less sympathetic. After all, it has a direct relation with *that* without consent. And I can honestly see Teruteru doing such a terribly detestable thing.
Chiaki Nanami
2
Ryouko Otonashi
3
Junko Enoshima
4 Ibuki Mioda
5 Mukuro Ikusaba
6 Yasuke Matsuda
7 Mikan Tsumiki
8 Celestia Ludenberg
9 Kyouko Kirigiri
10 Nagito Komaeda
11 Sayaka Maizono
12 Gundam Tanaka
13 Peko Pekoyama
14 Genocider Syo
15 Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu
16 Mahiru Koizumi
17 Touko Fukawa
18 Izuru Kamukura
19 Sonia Nevermind
20 Hajime Hinata
21 Yuuto Kamishiro
22 Chihiro Fujisaki
23 Teruteru Hanamura
24 Monokuma
25 Byakuya Twogami
26 Monomi
27 Byakuya Togami
28 Madarai Isshiki
29 Makoto Naegi
30 Akane Owari
31 Aoi Asahina
32 Kazuichi Souda
33 Kiyotaka Ishimaru
34 Nekomaru Nidai
35 Sakura Oogami
36 Alter Ego
37 Jin Kirigiri
38 Ishida
39 Leon Kuwata
40 Hifumi Yamada
41 Mondo Oowada
42 Yasuhiro Hagakure
43 Hiyoko Saionji
seems legit
Yeah, I'm late to this. Whatever.
The main problem with Celestia compared to Gundham is that we're given insight on Gundham's backstory via Free Time Events in SDR2, where it's suggested he's an illegitimate child who was ignored by his father and mistreated by his mother; Chapter 4 even suggests he was never given toys to play with, hence why he's so excited to find the motor for a toy boat. Alas, we learn next to nothing about Celeste in her FTEs, except that she's just as much of a chuuni as Gundham.
While the manga DOES give Celeste a rather interesting backstory, where Taeko Yasuhiro is a girl who is endlessly disappointed and ashamed of her ordinary life, it ultimately comes off as rather flat compared to Gundham. It just makes her seem spoilt. Perhaps it would've been more interesting if Taeko a horrible childhood, used gambling to cope, and upon realising her skill in it and seeing the ability to escape from it all, turns herself into Celestia Ludenberg.
One thing I'll happily admit: Celeste has by and far away my favourite VA in the entire series. Hearing her go from the fake French accent to a standard New England-esque accent is always a joy to behold.
I just don't think characters need sad backstories all the time. It's not like Junko has one. She is inherently evil without much of an explanation. I know Ryoko wasn't evil like Junko, and that makes you wonder what happened.. But I feel that, if she had a tragic backstory, it would have already been told..
Celestia's English VA is absolutely incredible. It is probably the best English voice acting I've heard.
I agree that not every character needs a sad backstory, but for Celeste, I think giving her a Freudian excuse for her murders would've made her more liked for most fans, especially since Kiyotaka is a surprisingly popular character among the fandom (just look at the lists in this topic; most of them put Taka in the top half of the characters). Especially so since Mondo and Sakura both especially had depressing motives. Leon, too, if you buy the manga's canon.
For Junko, I'm actually glad they DIDN'T give her a sad backstory. Considering all the horrible things she does in the series, giving her a sad backstory would've just seemed like a cheap way to build sympathy for the devil. If anything, I thought giving her no backstory except for wanting to attain despair at all costs made her more interesting. Sorta like Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight. Two depraved individuals who don't have an idea of what they're fighting for, but by God, are they going to fight for it.
I know it may seem like I'm slagging on Celeste a lot, but the more I think about her, the less I like her. Still better than Hiyoko, though. That ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
1 Mukuro Ikusaba
2 Mikan Tsumiki
3 Sonia Nevermind
4 Celestia Ludenberg
5 Kyouko Kirigiri
6 Ibuki Mioda
7 Akane Owari
8 Chiaki Nanami
8 Peko Pekoyama
10 Genocider Syo
11 Aoi Asahina
12 Hajime Hinata
13 Kazuichi Souda
14 Junko Enoshima
15 Chihiro Fujisaki
16 Makoto Naegi
17 Sakura Oogami
18 Byakuya Twogami
19 Izuru Kamukura
20 Touko Fukawa
21 Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu
22 Monokuma
23 Nekomaru Nidai
24 Gundam Tanaka
25 Kiyotaka Ishimaru
26 Mondo Oowada
27 Mahiru Koizumi
28 Leon Kuwata
29 Teruteru Hanamura
30 Yasuhiro Hagakure
31 Sayaka Maizono
32 Ishida
33 Nagito Komaeda
34 Byakuya Togami
35 Alter Ego
36 Hifumi Yamada
37 Monomi
38 Hiyoko Saionji
Makes sense to me. Screw bullies and screw Nunally Lamperouge.
I agree on the Junko thing, if that wasn't quite clear in my earlier response.
1. Chiaki Nanami
2. Junko Enoshima
3. Sonia Nevermind
4. Ibuki Mioda
5. Nagito Komaeda
6. Hajime Hinata
7. Chihiro Fujisaki
8. Celestia Ludenburg
9. Byakuya Togami
10. Kyouko Kirigiri
11. Aoi Asahina
12. Alter Ego
13. Monomi
14. Sayaka Maizono
15. Mikan Tsumiki
16. Mukuro Ikusaba
17. Monokuma
18. Makoto Naegi
19. Akane Owari
20. Hiyoko Saionji
21. Izuru Kamukura
22. Nekomaru Nidai
23. Kiyotaka Ishimaru
24. Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu
25. Mahiru Koizumi
26. Ishida
27. Leon Kuwada
28. Genocider Syo
29. Kazuichi Soda
30. Peko Pekoyama
31. Byakuya Twogami
32. Mondo Oowada
33. Gundham Tanaka
34. Teruteru Hanamura
35. Hifumi Yamada
36. Yasuhiro Hagakure
37. Touko Fukawa
38. Sakura Oogami
Yep, this is pretty much how I'd rate the characters. Chiaki is my clear favorite. She is one of my favorite video game characters. Junko is second just because I love and admire her as the villian. She's like the Joker. She's cool. Sometimes you even root for her. Sonia and Ibuki are next because I hung out with them a lot on the island and I was enraged when Ibuki died. Nagito comes in fifth because you never trust Nagito! He's a very unique character. You never know what he's up to. Hajime is the voice of Lelouch so of course I like him and Chihiro was hot (even though I later found out she was a guy, she was still nice). Celeste I liked for her personality and I even liked the part where her poker face broke during her trial. I was sad when I needed to execute her. We hung out a lot. Byakuya is the Seto Kaiba of this game and Kyouko saved my life multiple times.