Do you think anyone deserved it? (spoilers obv)

[Radio Freeman Guy man]

Simply put, did any of the victims/culprits in the game deserve to die in your opinion?

Of them, probably only the villain. Culprit #3 comes close to deserving it, though.

[cowinspace]

No, not within the group of 15, given the setup everyone would have been fine with living inside the school until the mastermind screwed everything up. So the only one that could justifiably be killed is the mastermind.

[Sayaka Maizono]

Kyoko had it coming to her, although it's a shame it took until now for them to actually let her die.

[Rox]

I feel like Leon deserved it. He could have simply just let things be and gone back to his room, but nope, he decided to kill a girl that was now defenseless and frightened.

[Protocol27]

I feel that only 3 of the students deserved to die...

Leon, because he had a chance to stop himself, but didn't and ended up killing Sayaka.

Celeste, because she lied to Hifumi, caused Taka's death, and killed Hifumi.

And finally the Mastermind (Junko), because she made the students kill each other to escape, gave them motives to kill each other, and that's only scratching the surface of why she deserved to die.

[Karifean]

No, absolutely not.

[Phantron]

Nobody deserves to die on motive because it's flat out said all the students were perfectly fine with the idea of being locked up in Hope's Peak Academy for the rest of their lives. For all we know they probably held wild pool parties every day in the past year and is glad to live in a self sustaining and impregnable fortress while the rest of the world is rotting. Thus the notion that anybody can be motivated to kill anyone else to escape is absurd and can only explained as students being manipulated by stuff they can't possibly know about.

In terms of story, I think Makoto definitely should've died on chapter 1. He lucked out because Sayaka didn't even know what was the consequences at that point. She presumably thought if she framed Makoto, Makoto might not have died which is why she actually expected Makoto to keep quiet about the whole room switching deal (it'd have been awfully hard for her to not get convicted even if she killed Leon if Makoto just spill the beans). Obviously, that wouldn't have worked had she knew everyone dies for failing to identify her, and killing Makoto is way easier than killing Leon. Even if she failed, she's supposed to be awesome at reading people and I think she should've realized Makoto wouldn't try to kill her even if she failed.

Kyoko should've been an extremely likely casuality of the infighting, since she's aloof and spends a lot of time doing suspicious things. I'd expect a random guy just smash her head when she crawled out of the boy's bathroom at night once the students started suspecting there was a spy. Unlike Byakuya, there's no indication that Kyoko has the physical abilities to support such a lone wolf style, and even Byakuya had Toko watching his back.

[Ash//Fox]

Yeah I think so. Mondo was a criminal who most likely engaged in extortion, vandalism, and quite possibly multiple acts of murder (not sure how gritty Japan's gangland activites are) on a regular basis as well as inciting others to do the same, and for all we know the guy dealt drugs, bad drugs... to puppies.

Celeste actively murdered someone out of selfish greed, and killed another by extension, plus was willing to let all remaining people die so she could bugger off to a castle with a harem.

Sayaka is a bit of a muddled issue but I still think she kinda had it coming since to a degree her death was in self defense, and if the opportunitiy presents itself in this situation is it any wonder someone might turn into the agressor? At that point everyone else dying wasn't a known rule as far as I remember so I can't really fault Leon for killing someone who tried to murder him in cold blood and getting to leave the school.

And Junko had an annoying voice... in fact she had multiple voices and all of them were annoying.

[Phantron]

In the context of a Japanese based game, gang leader and even Mafia affiliated with the protagonist are more like vigilantes than bad guys. Note that if you read Mukuro's profile, she's basically a war criminal, and she didn't apply to Hope's Peak Academy under a fake identity. Even without the genre savvy argument, you can simply say students in Hope's Peak Academy are above the law so I don't hold whatever crimes they did in the past against them.

[the stranger of paradise]

Protocol27 eredeti hozzászólása:

I feel that only 3 of the students deserved to die...

Leon, because he had a chance to stop himself, but didn't and ended up killing Sayaka.[/quote]

I object. According to the manga, (From the killer and victims perspective), he didn't try to kill Sayaka after the initial skirmish, even outright saying he just wanted to talk to her. She got up when she opened the door, and ended up impaled on the knife without any killing intent from Leon

[the stranger of paradise]

I object to Leon deserving to die. According to the manga, (From the killer and victims perspective), he didn't try to kill Sayaka after the initial skirmish, even outright saying he just wanted to talk to her. She got up when she opened the door, and ended up impaled on the knife without any killing intent from Leon

[Protocol27]

F E E L T H E V A P E eredeti hozzászólása:

I object to Leon deserving to die. According to the manga, (From the killer and victims perspective), he didn't try to kill Sayaka after the initial skirmish, even outright saying he just wanted to talk to her. She got up when she opened the door, and ended up impaled on the knife without any killing intent from Leon

Manga-wise, Leon didn't deserve it. Game/anime-wise he deserved it. Nowhere in the game does Leon mention he tried to calm down Sayaka, and when Sayaka goes into the washroom, instead of simply going to his room, he went into the washroom with the intent to murder Sayaka. Don't get me wrong, I like Leon, but he had a chance to walk away and not kill Sayaka.

Besides, it's just my opinion, well from 3 months ago anyway... Plus the manga didn't even come out when I wrote that opinion.

[Doloris]

No no no, you guys need to stop not seeing Celeste's true thoughts. She even stops herself from stating her true motive in her case; just replay it past the score screen. When Aoi asks if that was really her entire reason, Celeste clearly says "Well, actually.." "No, nevermind." Simply because even in the end, she did not want to blow her façade.

[Protocol27]

Celestia Ludenberg eredeti hozzászólása:

No no no, you guys need to stop not seeing Celeste's true thoughts. She even stops herself from stating her true motive in her case; just replay it past the score screen. When Aoi asks if that was really her entire reason, Celeste clearly says "Well, actually.." "No, nevermind." Simply because even in the end, she did not want to blow her façade.

I only think she deserved it was because she caused the death of Hifumi and Taka. Facade or not, she still caused the death of two people, Taka indirectly and Hifiumi directly.

Despite that, I still like Celeste.

[m0n0n0ke0]

I think Sayaka deserved it since she was not only planning to invite Leon to her room to kill him, but also to frame Makoto, the one person who trusted her and swore to protect her. I didn't feel bad for her after finding out the truth.

Celeste also deserved it. She tricked Hifumi, tried to frame Yasuhiro, and caused two deaths. Her tricking Hifumi is what really bothered me the most.

[Runa Silvertongue]

I also agree that Sayaka deserved it, as well as Celestia.

In the context of them agreeing to shelter in the Academy, all bets were off when their memories of that agreement were forcibly stripped of them by UD.