Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

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oRpheusB20 Oct 12, 2020 @ 9:58pm
Leon's Shirt
Anyone else really bothered by the fact that we never see Leon in a dress shirt? Or anything that implies he owns one prior to him directly stating 'there are other people besides me who wear dress shirts here?' in the middle of the first trial? I mean, yeah, if the evidence found had obviously been a piece of one of his jackets straight up, it would have been a dead giveaway, but at least in later chapters with the images from the past, they could have made him wear a dress shirt, just once. Instead, to my knowledge, he is always in what appears to be a sleeveless shirt with that white jacket.
I know an answer can be 'they aren't actually wearing the same clothes day in, day out' (Makoto I'm looking at you, sleeping with a zip-up hoodie on (although then again he has literally no other belongings, according to the bareness of his room, hm...)). But really, there's only so far that my suspension of disbelief can be stretched, especially considering we do get to see them wear other attire in pictures.

It's just... gah! Why? Please tell me I'm not the only one annoyed!
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Mastema Oct 14, 2020 @ 11:47am 
Just you, sorry man.
Cheezystix Oct 23, 2020 @ 4:15pm 
It IS a white dress shirt he is wearing. It just looks like a jacket to you. If you compare the evidence to his shirt it matches perfectly. What they called it doesn't matter cause it looks the same regardless.
You can't seriously tell me you didn't notice him wearing that right?
oRpheusB20 Oct 23, 2020 @ 6:50pm 
Really?? You pretty much never get to see that side of his sleeves. And if you look at the evidence from the trial and cross-compare it with some of the only images that include that part of Leon's shirt, then you'll find that is a completely different cuff.

Evidence from trial: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpa/images/8/8b/Truth_Bullet_Chapter_1_%2817%29.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/376?cb=20170204082312

Leon's actual design (no, the fact that this is for the animation does not mean that there is a change to the design, I've looked, and you can too if you want) (although now I wonder if the animation changes the evidence cuff?): https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpa/images/b/bf/Danganronpa_The_Animation_Design_Profile_Leon_Kuwata.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20180307023921

Although, yes, you are correct, what I had thought to be a jacket is just a really modified dress shirt. It's really hard for me to tell, though, and the only thing that finally made me realize you were right was the freakin' breast pocket. Yes, I can be quite dense in some regards, I admit that. However, that is a really altered shirt, and I'm not surprised that I overlooked that fact until I squinted at it.
It still irks me that the evidence isn't consistent with his design...
Last edited by oRpheusB20; Oct 24, 2020 @ 12:18am
Cheezystix Oct 23, 2020 @ 9:35pm 
These pictures of Leon perfectly show his sleeves. Maybe they don't have buttons, but the resemblance to the evidence is still uncanny. I imagine if you flipped the evidence around, it would look exactly like his sleeve shown in these pictures. (The third one even shows the button a little as well.)

https://pm1.narvii.com/6821/b6ec5adb4fe393b98405b9b5c9aca129d223af3bv2_hq.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/danganronpafanclub/images/d/de/Leon_Kuwata_Halfbody_Sprite.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20190523225320

https://rei.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/11498-1421080077.png

You probably didn't notice it cause come on, no one is going to look at a guys sleeves when they talk to him. Either way, they most definitely showed his sleeves off for everyone to see.
oRpheusB20 Oct 24, 2020 @ 12:24am 
Okay, specifically, I am talking about the part of the cuff that displays the button. You know, the only part that got left behind and ended up as evidence during the trial. If you look at the picture I provided earlier, the most prominent part, at least in my opinion, is the two grey buttons. To me, at least, it's what gives away the fact that it's the cuff of a dress shirt. Without that, I don't think I would have known what kind of thing I was looking at without the game explicitly telling me.
However, if you look at the design in, say, the third image you provide, those two buttons are noticeably absent.
Considering I couldn't even tell what kind of clothing he had on (which, yes, seems to be a me problem), I would argue that, no, the resemblance isn't uncanny at all.
Although, yes, you are very right, no one in their right mind would look that closely at his sleeves the first time they play the game, and it's possible they used the picture that they did for the evidence because it would make more people think of a dress shirt, but I don't feel it would have been that hard to avoid inconsistency between his design and what we are using to accuse him with.
Cheezystix Oct 24, 2020 @ 7:50am 
I personally think they look the same. For me the most prominent part is the color white itself. You could have edited out the buttons and just shown me a plain white cloth and I still would have known it was part of a shirt. What else would you throw away that has blood on it?
I suppose if I look closely the buttons don't line up exactly but it still looks pretty similar to me.
Then again, I'm not a fashion designer, so take what I say with a grain of salt :P
I guess this is just a difference in what initially catches our eyes.
Either way, I think it's obvious that it belongs to Leon. While some other people also wear a white dress shirt, they all wear another piece of clothing over it. Leon is the only one who just wears one plain with his sleeves rolled out.
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oRpheusB20 Oct 24, 2020 @ 7:42pm 
Yeah, it's definitely a difference in what we see as the most prominent part of the sleeve. Also, it's a matter of me thinking too hard about the details, as I do a lot. I'm not a fashion person in the slightest, and under pretty much any other circumstance, I wouldn't give a rat's a$$ about what the cuff of his sleeve looks like. But considering I thought he'd been wearing a jacket, that just threw all rational for why it had to have been Leon as the murderer right out the window and everything since has been me trying to wrap my head around why anyone would think 'oh, that's Leon's clothing!'
I still wouldn't argue it's obvious, but, again, thinking too hard on the details, and I'm just funny like that.
Cheezystix Oct 24, 2020 @ 8:19pm 
That's fair. Tbh, in these types of games I tend to overthink things as well. V3 especially through me off my detective game for a long while, so I understand the feeling. I'm also funny like that :P
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