Okay explain something to me. (Spoilers)

[NecroMaster]

My sister just told me something that makes no sense at all.

She said the DR1 devs said that it’s canon Sayaka killer herself and framed it on Leon in an interview.

Now let me point out how none of this makes sense.

My first point Leon had to throw his jacket in the incinerator because he was covered in blood in order to hide his crime.

This does not make sense because if he didn’t touch her he would not have any blood on him period.

My second point if he was innocent why the hell would he confess to it even after he had been found guilty?

If he were innocent he’d keep pleading it until the end he’d only be digging a deeper hole for himself otherwise by confessing to something he didn’t do.

My third point is if Sayaka killed herself Leon would not be the blackened.
Sayaka would be the blackened making Leon the incorrect answer killing everyone.

While it’s true in the final chapter Junko did rigg the game that was only because her scheme was about to come undone.
She would not cancel an action that would result in everyone’s despair.

My last point is Sayakas motive.
She has absolutely nothing to gain by doing this.

Her whole motivation was to kill Leon, Frame Makoto and find out if her friends from her idol group are still alive.
She can not do this if she herself is dead and on top of that it means she is killing her friends for nothing.

It’s nonsense all of it so explain to me any of this makes sense or just tell me it’s fake.

[Silvy]

Uh no, Leon canonly killed Sayaka. That's how it went. In the manga it's more of an accident on Leon's part but that doesn't change the fact that Leon killed her.

Also important to keep in mind that at the time Sayaka tried to kill Leon noone knew that getting away with murder meant everyone else died. That was revealed after body was discovered and Monokuma announced they would have a class trial. People forget that detail.

Also why she attacked Leon.

Needed to be a boy.

Makoto was taking the fall.

Kiyotaka would be too uptight to bite.

Togami would never go.

Hifumi said he's only into 2D

This leaves Mondo, Hagakure and Leon. Mondo is pretty strong so no.

Between the last two Leon is the better choice because he had already stated that he had interest in becoming a rockstar so he'd be less likely to sure up thinking he may get killed.

[NecroMaster]

Originally posted by Silvy:

Uh no, Leon canonly killed Sayaka. That's how it went. In the manga it's more of an accident on Leon's part but that doesn't change the fact that Leon killed her.

Also important to keep in mind that at the time Sayaka tried to kill Leon noone knew that getting away with murder meant everyone else died. That was revealed after body was discovered and Monokuma announced they would have a class trial. People forget that detail.

Also why she attacked Leon.

Needed to be a boy.

Makoto was taking the fall.

Kiyotaka would be too uptight to bite.

Togami would never go.

Hifumi said he's only into 2D

This leaves Mondo, Hagakure and Leon. Mondo is pretty strong so no.

Between the last two Leon is the better choice because he had already stated that he had interest in becoming a rockstar so he'd be less likely to sure up thinking he may get killed.

So there is no interview in which the devs state that Leon was framed?

[Silvy]

None that I know of and this is one of the franchise I know much more then I should about.

Honestly Leon and Sayaka died first because they were the first two characters created and finalized since the concept itself was bored and the artists were just tired of drawing em.

[Blue_Glasses]

Your sister was being dumb, no offense to her lel

[Mysti_Fogg]

I'm not aware of any such interview, though it is possible it exists, I would doubt it.

You did a pretty good rundown of why the whole thing doesn't make sense, as did Silvy.

Now, I've never played the promo game Doubt, so I don't know who was the guilty party in that. Hagakure gets offed, but I've never spoiled myself on the killer. Was it Sayaka?

BTW you should tag this discussion as a SPOILER. The title really doesn't make that clear.

[NecroMaster]

Originally posted by Mysti_Fogg:

I'm not aware of any such interview, though it is possible it exists, I would doubt it.

You did a pretty good rundown of why the whole thing doesn't make sense, as did Silvy.

Now, I've never played the promo game Doubt, so I don't know who was the guilty party in that. Hagakure gets offed, but I've never spoiled myself on the killer. Was it Sayaka?

BTW you should tag this discussion as a SPOILER. The title really doesn't make that clear.

Sorry

[Silvy]

Originally posted by Mysti_Fogg:

I'm not aware of any such interview, though it is possible it exists, I would doubt it.

You did a pretty good rundown of why the whole thing doesn't make sense, as did Silvy.

Now, I've never played the promo game Doubt, so I don't know who was the guilty party in that. Hagakure gets offed, but I've never spoiled myself on the killer. Was it Sayaka?

BTW you should tag this discussion as a SPOILER. The title really doesn't make that clear.

Actually in Doubt Kirigiri gets murdered and Junko is the culprit. What you're refering to is the Dangaronpa Demo where Hagakure is murdered in Makoto's room. There the Culprit is Hifumi, he gets caught cause there's potato chip grease left in the room. There's a Manga bout the demo

[Mysti_Fogg]

Originally posted by Silvy:

Originally posted by Mysti_Fogg:

I'm not aware of any such interview, though it is possible it exists, I would doubt it.

You did a pretty good rundown of why the whole thing doesn't make sense, as did Silvy.

Now, I've never played the promo game Doubt, so I don't know who was the guilty party in that. Hagakure gets offed, but I've never spoiled myself on the killer. Was it Sayaka?

BTW you should tag this discussion as a SPOILER. The title really doesn't make that clear.

Actually in Doubt Kirigiri gets murdered and Junko is the culprit. What you're refering to is the Dangaronpa Demo where Hagakure is murdered in Makoto's room. There the Culprit is Hifumi, he gets caught cause there's potato chip grease left in the room. There's a Manga bout the demo

Thank you. I didn't realize there were effectively two demos.

In either case, that can't be where the rumors are coming from, they don't fit.

I think the sister is just trying to be upsetting.

[Carnavoyeur]

Originally posted by Silvy:

Originally posted by Mysti_Fogg:

I'm not aware of any such interview, though it is possible it exists, I would doubt it.

You did a pretty good rundown of why the whole thing doesn't make sense, as did Silvy.

Now, I've never played the promo game Doubt, so I don't know who was the guilty party in that. Hagakure gets offed, but I've never spoiled myself on the killer. Was it Sayaka?

BTW you should tag this discussion as a SPOILER. The title really doesn't make that clear.

Actually in Doubt Kirigiri gets murdered and Junko is the culprit. What you're refering to is the Dangaronpa Demo where Hagakure is murdered in Makoto's room. There the Culprit is Hifumi, he gets caught cause there's potato chip grease left in the room. There's a Manga bout the demo

"Doubt"? Aren't you guys talking about Distrust?

Because if that's the case, Kirigiri's killer is still 11037 on that game.

Even on this official proof of concept for Danganronpa, where Junko is the victim, Leon ends up being the murderer.

Also, the manga where Leon and Sayaka have more "screentime" was mentioned so I'd like to point out that the wiki states that it was written by Touya Hajime and NOT Kodaka himself, so why people keep bringing that up? Not to offend anyone, but I think it shouldn't be consider as canon or relevant to the whole Leon/Sayaka's or the game's discussion.

I know Silvy never went into full detail about the things that happened on manga to actually complain about it btw, I just wanted to rant a little about the fandom I suppose, lol.

[Mysti_Fogg]

Originally posted by Terracotta Heart:

Also, the manga where Leon and Sayaka have more "screentime" was mentioned so I'd like to point out that the wiki states that it was written by Touya Hajime and NOT Kodaka himself, so why people keep bringing that up? Not to offend anyone, but I think it shouldn't be consider as canon or relevant to the whole Leon/Sayaka's or the game's discussion.

I know Silvy never went into full detail about the things that happened on manga to actually complain about it btw, I just wanted to rant a little about the fandom I suppose, lol.

When asked a question on the fandom, it's unclear what's canon and what's not canon for Danganronpa. It is a corporate IP, so stuff not by Kodaka can be official canon. However, it is not necessarily so. (And Danganronpa has canon issues within things generally accepted as canon, as the Despair anime directly contradicts SDR2 in many places.) Thus the best thing to do is mention the possibilities and let people decide if they accept it as canon or not.

[Pézã]

Your sister ins't right, Leon kills Sayaka and then is punished