Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

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Manne 2016 年 2 月 20 日 上午 2:52
Pink blood
Any way to get red blood?
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FLFL Koizumi 2016 年 2 月 20 日 上午 3:10 
Not without editing the games images.
DarkMachine 2016 年 2 月 20 日 上午 3:18 
It's actually a deliberate form of "artistic censorship" and have been a staple of the Danganronpa series since.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRMLMC8nGyo
Manne 2016 年 2 月 20 日 上午 6:38 
Thanks for the answer guys :)
kkl4261 2016 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:42 
No offense but I was just curious. Does Wastern gamers care about blood in gaming that much? Is that some kind of obsession? Coz I have seen a review on this game complaining about the pink blood.
Plot Seeker 2016 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:47 
引用自 kkl4261
No offense but I was just curious. Does Wastern gamers care about blood in gaming that much? Is that some kind of obsession? Coz I have seen a review on this game complaining about the pink blood.
They like 'edgy' stuff, and red blood is 'edgy' apparently
MissDespair 2016 年 2 月 21 日 上午 5:49 
引用自 kkl4261
No offense but I was just curious. Does Wastern gamers care about blood in gaming that much? Is that some kind of obsession? Coz I have seen a review on this game complaining about the pink blood.
I guess it's just weird to others and seems out of place since this is supposed to be an M-rated game in America. Some people like me have no problem with it after a bit.
Aepervius 2016 年 2 月 21 日 下午 10:56 
引用自 kkl4261
No offense but I was just curious. Does Wastern gamers care about blood in gaming that much? Is that some kind of obsession? Coz I have seen a review on this game complaining about the pink blood.

It is about immersion and culture. We are used that in slasher or horror film, the blood is red.
So I am here and then suddenly somebody get killed, the protagonist gushes on how he feels angsty about it.... And I am supposed to sympathize or something, but I was laughing to the tears. I was litterally laughing so much I cried a bit. When I saw the picture of the murdered person I was thinking "pinata" and "candy".

Not exactely the despair and horror the situation was asking for, eh ?

Culturally in europe (and US) if you want to bring horror fear and disgust you bring up red blood. It is so much in us culturally, that having a blood of a different colour was enough for some game censur (command and conquer black blood).

So when I saw pink, which is so much associated with candy sugar and maybe other non-horrific symbolism I could not resist and exploded in laughter.

So yeah it is not about blood caring or obsession, it is about cultural symbolism. If you use a symbol of a culture in its opposite situation it break the immersion and the situation utterly.
Video game like media must use symbolism correctly, or they let immersion implode and lose a lot of the value of the picture they present.

Look I am betting the decision to use pink blood was censur (probably auto censur) and it was maybe the correct decision to a marketing point of view, but within the western culture it makes some picture of the game laughable to tears. And it greatly diminish its value as a semi horrific story of despair.

The murder victim was not killed with a knife in the stomach. She was a pinata and got the stuffing out of her spilt. Or some pink paint was spread over her. Any moment soon she will wake up and smile. There is no horror. There is no despair. There is no blood !
最后由 Aepervius 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 21 日 下午 10:57
Aepervius 2016 年 2 月 21 日 下午 11:01 
Some people state it is a stylish choice. I have my doubt about it but whatever. That style choice break the immersion in western culture. I like the game , but it certainly kick me out of the story to see pink blood, it kicks me out more than a speaking evil toy bear. That's saying a lot.
allanvv 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 12:35 
引用自 Aepervius
引用自 kkl4261
No offense but I was just curious. Does Wastern gamers care about blood in gaming that much? Is that some kind of obsession? Coz I have seen a review on this game complaining about the pink blood.

It is about immersion and culture. We are used that in slasher or horror film, the blood is red.
So I am here and then suddenly somebody get killed, the protagonist gushes on how he feels angsty about it.... And I am supposed to sympathize or something, but I was laughing to the tears. I was litterally laughing so much I cried a bit. When I saw the picture of the murdered person I was thinking "pinata" and "candy".

Not exactely the despair and horror the situation was asking for, eh ?

Culturally in europe (and US) if you want to bring horror fear and disgust you bring up red blood. It is so much in us culturally, that having a blood of a different colour was enough for some game censur (command and conquer black blood).

So when I saw pink, which is so much associated with candy sugar and maybe other non-horrific symbolism I could not resist and exploded in laughter.

So yeah it is not about blood caring or obsession, it is about cultural symbolism. If you use a symbol of a culture in its opposite situation it break the immersion and the situation utterly.
Video game like media must use symbolism correctly, or they let immersion implode and lose a lot of the value of the picture they present.

Look I am betting the decision to use pink blood was censur (probably auto censur) and it was maybe the correct decision to a marketing point of view, but within the western culture it makes some picture of the game laughable to tears. And it greatly diminish its value as a semi horrific story of despair.

Wow dude, I know we all have different worldviews and opinions, but this is a pretty over-the-top reaction over stylzed pink blood.

Did you think this game sells on realism, because the art style sure doesn't go for it at all. The character sprites are very stylized already.

Pink blood fits perfectly with the look they're going for in this game. Who says the game is supposed to "bring horror fear and disgust" to the readers? A game that depicts that will have a very different tone than what Danganronpa goes for. You'll notice that the game doesn't even take itself that seriously. This isn't an edgy grim detective story. It does its own thing.

Oh, and there's some interesting juxtaposition of this light tone with gruesome executions. And the sequel is definitely more gruesome in the murder scenes despite the pink blood.

Anyway, I'm glad that we get games like this that don't bend to Western norms. There's already enough murder simulators with liberal amounts of gore everywhere to satisfy those kinds of tastes. Of course, this style isn't for everyone and I can see you really don't like it. But there's room for both kinds of tones and I feel like this game achieves what it sets out to do, not necessarily what you think it should do.
最后由 allanvv 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 12:54
Garlboh 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 1:35 
Isn't there red blood in the game any way? Later on, of course.

So if that wasn't censored, it'd make no sense that the rest of the the blood was censored, it seems like a stylistic choice to differentiate fresh/old.

In other words, does it matter?
cowinspace 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 1:45 
引用自 Aepervius
Some people state it is a stylish choice. I have my doubt about it but whatever. That style choice break the immersion in western culture. I like the game , but it certainly kick me out of the story to see pink blood, it kicks me out more than a speaking evil toy bear. That's saying a lot.

I'm a westerner (Scottish) and it doesn't even come close to breaking the immersion. It is a part of the games aesthetic and fits well with the art style. In my mind it not only stands out more but manages to add impact to the scenes it is in. Spike Chunsoft found a good way around their native regulations that mantained consistancy with the look of the game as a whole.

I find that the children asking for red blood just can't cope with games that have a style other than "ultra realistic brown shooter". The same people moaned about the art style in The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker not being "realistic".

Go play your boring brown games. I'll have fun in a game that had some talented artists on board.
最后由 cowinspace 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 1:46
allanvv 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 2:43 
引用自 Fox?
Isn't there red blood in the game any way? Later on, of course.

So if that wasn't censored, it'd make no sense that the rest of the the blood was censored, it seems like a stylistic choice to differentiate fresh/old.

In other words, does it matter?
No, I don't think there's red blood later.
allanvv 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 2:49 
Oh, and here's the interview where he talks about the pink blood.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/danganronpa-director-kazutaka-kodaka-on-the-power-of-psychopop

USg: On that point, so much of the game is stylized, but I'm still curious if the hot pink blood in Danganronpa was incorporated to get a lower rating.

KK: If you try to make a horror game, you're not going to beat Dead Space, so why try? Rather than that, why not create your own new genre? I call it "psychopop." And if it's your own genre, there's no one to compete against, so you're automatically at the top! The idea of "psychopop" is that things are gruesome and horrific, but there's this pop twist to it: the visual flair. The reason why Danganronpa's blood isn't red is because of "psychopop" itself.
Garlboh 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 2:55 
引用自 allanvv
引用自 Fox?
Isn't there red blood in the game any way? Later on, of course.

So if that wasn't censored, it'd make no sense that the rest of the the blood was censored, it seems like a stylistic choice to differentiate fresh/old.

In other words, does it matter?
No, I don't think there's red blood later.

Unless there's a graphical glitch, I 100% saw red blood.
allanvv 2016 年 2 月 22 日 上午 3:04 
引用自 Fox?
引用自 allanvv
No, I don't think there's red blood later.

Unless there's a graphical glitch, I 100% saw red blood.
Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. It's in a different context than the pink blood you see though.
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