Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

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Super_ Aug 9, 2018 @ 4:07am
Rating the Chapters
Hello! I thought I would rate the chapters from worst to best and simply say why I thought so.

I honestly may even change the order but I think this is good enough.

Chapter 5 - I felt that a lot of this case was jumping to conclusions and wasn't handled very well at all. Also the ending of the case was really stupid and the worst point of the game. At the end of the chapter you have to make a choice. Two of the options are identical except you swap two people (Makoto/Kyoko) yet in one ending it's a bad ending and in the other it's the true ending? I honestly think they both should be true endings or switch them at the very least.
Chapter 1 - I knew who the killer was instantly and it did a terrible job at explaining certain things, giving you no time to practice (cough BTB). However it was a great case and a great first case to get people in to the game. Shame the killer was obvious as guessing from 15 people would've been hard.
Chapter 6 - This case was pretty good but the huge mystery was pretty obvious and if I remember correctly, I solved it in chapter 2 or 3 before this case even happened. However, a lot of the questions were pretty challenging and the people who made the music are amazing. I also like the special moment of hope.
Chapter 4 - This is the only case that managed to fool me. It was also the only case I decided to livestream. I got a lot of it right but the killer was both obvious yet not obvious at all. It all made sense in the end and I can't believe I didn't pick up on it sooner. Plus the ending was sad.
Chapter 2 - I didn't know who the murderer was instantly this time and I was pretty shocked by who did it, thinking they were a good person. It was also pretty shocking - I thought it was an accidental death lol. Also I knew the main twist from the start of the chapter as soon as we saw the boy and girl locker rooms.
Chapter 3 - Not sure if this is the best chapter but I'm pretty sure it had the best thing about the game which is Kyoko. I both knew who the murderer was and solved all of the mysteries for this case and it was so satisfying to have Kyoko say exactly what I would have.

Seriously. This game needs more Kyoko. She said everything I wanted her to say. The reason why Chapter 5 was the worst was also because of Kyoko. She started to jump to conclusions instead of actually focusing on the facts like we did in the previous cases. If they just moved some of her lines around then chapter 5 would be one of the best.

Anyway. I'd love to get the second game but I have no money! D:
Gotta wait a while so I made this.
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Spockus Aug 9, 2018 @ 4:44pm 
Chapter 3 was one of the best ones for me too, it ripped me apart, the game was basically like "ah, ok, you're having too much fun here, I'm going to kill off every character you like except for Kyoko to make it more interesting! Puhuhuhuhuhu!"

it was good because since Chapter 1's victim all the deaths were of people I either didn't care about (Leon and Mondo) or people I already had a feeling were going to die (Chihiro) . It livened things up and really reinforced the "anyone can die" policy that the game has.
Runa Silvertongue Aug 10, 2018 @ 12:14am 
Chapter 4 hurt so much. I was really hoping that Sakura would have been one of the survivors, but I agree with Kyoko that Sakura sacrificing herself to protect everyone else was a HUGE sign of strength.

Rankings:

Chapter 6
Chapter 4
Chapter 3
Chapter 2
Chapter 1
Chapter 5

All of the chapters had their pros and cons, but 5 was a cop out mainly because of the kangaroo court of a trial, and 1 because I LOATHE Sayaka with a purple passion.
Spockus Aug 10, 2018 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by Debra Kadabra:
Chapter 4 hurt so much. I was really hoping that Sakura would have been one of the survivors, but I agree with Kyoko that Sakura sacrificing herself to protect everyone else was a HUGE sign of strength.

Rankings:

Chapter 6
Chapter 4
Chapter 3
Chapter 2
Chapter 1
Chapter 5

All of the chapters had their pros and cons, but 5 was a cop out mainly because of the kangaroo court of a trial, and 1 because I LOATHE Sayaka with a purple passion.


If you hated Sayaka so much then wouldn't you enjoy the chapter where she dies???
Super_ Aug 10, 2018 @ 3:13pm 
They probably hate her because she died before she could do anything that made her likeable.
Spockus Aug 10, 2018 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Super_:
They probably hate her because she died before she could do anything that made her likeable.

Fair enough, I was thinking "There's no way they're going to kill Sayaka off this early, they'll give me a couple chapters to get attached and then.....(corpse discovery scene plays) WTF!! (Monokuma: A bOdY hAs BeEn DiSc0vEreD!)"

Rip :'(
Runa Silvertongue Aug 10, 2018 @ 4:22pm 
Well, I rated Chapter 1 lower BECAUSE of her. I do feel like she deserved her death, and word on the street is that the reason both her and Leon died first is because Spike Chunsoft were using their sprites to test out the game and by the time they got closer to release, SC was sick of the characters. :P

Sayaka herself said that she would do anything to rise to the top with her group, so you can infer that she was pretty ruthless in her group's meteoric rise above all other idol groups at the time. J-Pop Idol culture is still like that - with one result being Babymetal.
Spockus Aug 10, 2018 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Debra Kadabra:
Well, I rated Chapter 1 lower BECAUSE of her. I do feel like she deserved her death, and word on the street is that the reason both her and Leon died first is because Spike Chunsoft were using their sprites to test out the game and by the time they got closer to release, SC was sick of the characters. :P

Sayaka herself said that she would do anything to rise to the top with her group, so you can infer that she was pretty ruthless in her group's meteoric rise above all other idol groups at the time. J-Pop Idol culture is still like that - with one result being Babymetal.


Yeah I heard about that death reason too, it makes sense ig. Still surprised me that they introduced her as a deuteragonist only to kill her off that early.
Runa Silvertongue Aug 11, 2018 @ 2:11am 
Well, I think you can also infer that they made her overly sweet and kind on purpose, to make the shock of her almost betrayal have that much more impact.
Super_ Aug 11, 2018 @ 2:21am 
It wasn't really a betrayal as you were forced to like her.
Spockus Aug 11, 2018 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Debra Kadabra:
Well, I think you can also infer that they made her overly sweet and kind on purpose, to make the shock of her almost betrayal have that much more impact.

And then the game still tries to present it as a halfway betrayal when Kyoko talks to you after the first trial. Ngl I didn't really buy that and I thought she just left the message to screw 11037 over. Speaking of which, how tf did he not notice that his victim was writing his own damn name in her blood???
Runa Silvertongue Aug 11, 2018 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by Super_:
It wasn't really a betrayal as you were forced to like her.

But that was only because she and Makoto knew of each other previously. It wasn't that you were forced to like her, you were forced to hang out with her.

Originally posted by Spockus:
And then the game still tries to present it as a halfway betrayal when Kyoko talks to you after the first trial.

That's actually not what Kyoko said. Kyoko said that she couldn't go through with the betrayal, and that it was her hesitation about that that got her killed. Kyoko also said that she left the message to help the rest of the students live.

Leon didn't catch (see what I did there?) that she'd left that message because her body was partially covering it for one, and because he was more concerned about cleaning up/getting rid of evidence (or so he thought) than focusing on cleaning the wall of the shower stall.
Spockus Aug 11, 2018 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by Debra Kadabra:
Originally posted by Super_:
It wasn't really a betrayal as you were forced to like her.

But that was only because she and Makoto knew of each other previously. It wasn't that you were forced to like her, you were forced to hang out with her.

Originally posted by Spockus:
And then the game still tries to present it as a halfway betrayal when Kyoko talks to you after the first trial.

That's actually not what Kyoko said. Kyoko said that she couldn't go through with the betrayal, and that it was her hesitation about that that got her killed. Kyoko also said that she left the message to help the rest of the students live.

Leon didn't catch (see what I did there?) that she'd left that message because her body was partially covering it for one, and because he was more concerned about cleaning up/getting rid of evidence (or so he thought) than focusing on cleaning the wall of the shower stall.


How could Sayaka have left the message to help the rest of the students live? The students didn't learn about the class trial rules until after she got killed. Also I wish the whole betrayal thing got touched on more, it's very up in the air as to what actually happened because we only get Makoto's and Kyoko's interpretations of it.
Runa Silvertongue Aug 11, 2018 @ 4:52pm 
She left it for not only Makoto, but for anyone investigating the evidence surrounding the case. I also happen to agree with Kyoko's interpretation but to expand upon that point - she started actions that she couldn't complete. She didn't expect Leon to fight back as vehemently as he did, and I suspect that she originally didn't intend to get caught so that the others couldn't solve the case and she would graduate into despair. I also don't think that the Mastermind would allow the game to end so early due to their boredom, but this is Danganronpa and not Zero Escape--we can't see the other side, We can only speculate, whereas if DR were more like ZE, the other endings could be obtained.

Anyway, my point is that we really don't know why Sayaka left the message at all. Your theory could be correct, but so could mine. I think we're getting bogged down in the semantics of why she chose to do that with the last moments of her life.


Not to nitpick, but some of your text probably should be in spoiler tags.
Spockus Aug 11, 2018 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Debra Kadabra:
She left it for not only Makoto, but for anyone investigating the evidence surrounding the case. I also happen to agree with Kyoko's interpretation but to expand upon that point - she started actions that she couldn't complete. She didn't expect Leon to fight back as vehemently as he did, and I suspect that she originally didn't intend to get caught so that the others couldn't solve the case and she would graduate into despair. I also don't think that the Mastermind would allow the game to end so early due to their boredom, but this is Danganronpa and not Zero Escape--we can't see the other side, We can only speculate, whereas if DR were more like ZE, the other endings could be obtained.

Anyway, my point is that we really don't know why Sayaka left the message at all. Your theory could be correct, but so could mine. I think we're getting bogged down in the semantics of why she chose to do that with the last moments of her life.


Not to nitpick, but some of your text probably should be in spoiler tags.


Yeah, you're right, we just don't know why she left it tbh, but that's good because it starts discussion like this and gets people talking about the game.
Runa Silvertongue Aug 11, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
Oh yeah, totally agreed.
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