Smoking vs. Sashimi vs. Maki Roll (or other recipes?)

[Santi]

I was browsing the wiki, but no calculations anywhere since fish smoker came.

Lets assume you have Fisher and Angler (which you should) i came into a conclusion now with fish smoker came, nearly every fish worth smoking, only a few cheap left still better to make sashimi of.

These are the fish priced below 60g (with Fisher and Angler) standard-silver prices according to wiki:
- Periwinkle 30-37g
- Mussel 45-55g
- Anchovy 45-55g
- Carp 45-55g
- Herring 45-55g
- Sunfish 45-55g

If my calculations are correct, smoking them will double the price but cost you a coal (15g), so in the end the sell price after smoking should look like this (after excluding the 15g coal cost):
- Periwinkle 45-59g
- Mussel 75-95g
- Anchovy 75-95g
- Carp 75-95g
- Herring 75-95g
- Sunfish 75-95g

Making a Sashimi need any 1 fish, and you can sell it for 75g.
So from Periwinkle its definitely worth making a Sashimi but from any standard quality from the others too, because its the same price, but you spare the coal and time with smoking.
Silver quality from the others not worth making Sashimi of, because you will lost 20g in the end.

And here comes the Maki Roll (or any other fish recipes) which im not comfortable calculating with, since i never get into the rice business. (I am a newcomer and just start playing this game in the recent days)
Is it worth it? Is it better? Any other fish recipes better?
And what do you think about Smoker vs Sashimi?
Help me and correct me if my calculations are wrong, also lets discuss is it worth any effort optimizing things like this for such a small profit? Or just dont bother too much and make sashimis out of cheap fish, smoke above 60g fishes and thats all.

[Antidote#77]

You are pretty much right, Sashimi is better in the early game and Fish Smoker is better in the late game,
It should be noted that smoked fishes are Artisan goods so if you have Artisan, Angler and Fisher as your professions they will sell for 2.8 times as much as normal, this makes all other cooking recipes pale in comparison.

[Buffmania]

The maki rolls sells for 220g, seaweed sells for 20g and milled rice will sell for 100g, leaving 100g of value to cover the cost of fish. Therefore, any fish that sells normally for less than 100g will result in a profit.

I helps to think of opportunity costs for using your most restricted materials. For example, It's possible to make 50g more when smoking cheap fish at the cost of a single coal, but you could've used that same piece of coal to smelt some iridium ore and made 1500g.

[Santi]

Originally posted by Buffmania:

Therefore, any fish that sells normally for less than 100g will result in a profit.

Yes but thats where smoker comes in. I rather smoke for example a 60g fish, because it will give me 120g (without artisan), so a total 105 after coal cost excluded.
So imo a normal 60g fish worth smoking instead of making a maki roll from it.

I calculate with Fisher and Angler like a musthave, not calculating without them, because if you are into fish (which is the topic here), you should have these two professions by the first year.

[Antidote#77]

Originally posted by Buffmania:

The maki rolls sells for 220g, seaweed sells for 20g and milled rice will sell for 100g, leaving 100g of value to cover the cost of fish. Therefore, any fish that sells normally for less than 100g will result in a profit.

Unmilled Rice is the problem, you can only plant Rice Shoot in Spring on your Farm and by the time you got the Greenhouse or unlock the Ginger island you can already afford the Smoker.
I have looked at other recipes and found that Algae Soup, Pale Broth and Carp Surprise can make a profit but not a lot.

[Santi]

Originally posted by Antidote#77:

Originally posted by Buffmania:

The maki rolls sells for 220g, seaweed sells for 20g and milled rice will sell for 100g, leaving 100g of value to cover the cost of fish. Therefore, any fish that sells normally for less than 100g will result in a profit.

Unmilled Rice is the problem, you can only plant Rice Shoot in Spring on your Farm and by the time you got the Greenhouse or unlock the Ginger island you can already afford the Smoker.
I have looked at other recipes and found that Algae Soup, Pale Broth and Carp Surprise can make a profit but not a lot.

Honorable mention Calico Desert to plant all year but that costs a total of 40k gold to unlock. I find it still easier and straightforward tbh. Im now at 2nd year early summer and still didnt unlocked Greenhouse or Ginger Island. But dont forget im a newcomer, learning the game as playing and reading wiki.

[Buffmania]

Originally posted by Antidote#77:

Unmilled Rice is the problem, you can only plant Rice Shoot in Spring on your Farm and by the time you got the Greenhouse or unlock the Ginger island you can already afford the Smoker.
I have looked at other recipes and found that Algae Soup, Pale Broth and Carp Surprise can make a profit but not a lot.

I agree with this. Cooking is generally not worth the effort for the pittance that it'll gain you in comparison to the things you need to set it up. Although you can get a nice boost early on if you've got worthwhile sashimi fish and a cookout kit.

[Buffmania]

Originally posted by Santi:

Honorable mention Calico Desert to plant all year but that costs a total of 40k gold to unlock. I find it still easier and straightforward tbh. Im now at 2nd year early summer and still didnt unlocked Greenhouse or Ginger Island. But dont forget im a newcomer, learning the game as playing and reading wiki.

You can't grow farm crops out there. Mahogany, Maple, Oak and Pine trees in the dirt and tea saplings in garden pots are the only things to grow in the desert.

[Santi]

Originally posted by Buffmania:

Originally posted by Santi:

Honorable mention Calico Desert to plant all year but that costs a total of 40k gold to unlock. I find it still easier and straightforward tbh. Im now at 2nd year early summer and still didnt unlocked Greenhouse or Ginger Island. But dont forget im a newcomer, learning the game as playing and reading wiki.

You can't grow farm crops out there. Mahogany, Maple, Oak and Pine trees in the dirt and tea saplings in garden pots are the only things to grow in the desert.

Thanks for the information!
I did not try plant anything there yet, so i didnt know, but thats why is say i still learning, only have like 40ish hours in the game.
So thats only for growing trees.