Stardew Valley

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4mMan May 12, 2023 @ 7:50am
Feature Request: Family Legacy System
Make no mistake, Stardew Valley is an absolute masterpiece. The game is engaging, addictive, with a highly replayable and enjoyable gameplay loop. The interactions between the characters within the game are interesting and often wholesome. The whole experience is just FUN.

One thing the game is missing, however - is a family legacy system. Yes, you can get married and have kids - but that is where the growth and legacy ends. Your children just crawl around seeking your daily click for affection. Boring. Instead, players should have the option to allow their main character to die and then choose one of their children (or spouse) to run the farm - creating nearly infinite growth and replayability.

Thank you for your consideration.
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Amberbaum May 18, 2023 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by 4mMan:
So many Kynseed shills in this thread. Not helpful. Begone.
Excuse us?! You are being rude. You wanted a game like SDV with a legacy system. This is one that managed to implemented it and built it's selling point around it. That's why we recommended it. Take it or leave.
DaTank May 18, 2023 @ 8:24pm 
No thanks, it wouldn't add anything to the game that would be beneficial in any way outside of satisfying anyone with the "me me me me" personality.
4mMan May 18, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
I appreciate your comments and criticisms about this requested feature, I do. However, this thread is about potential improvements or mods for Stardew, a masterpiece. Not some sub-par wannabe knockoff that can't even cast a shadow on SDV.
Sunny May 18, 2023 @ 9:48pm 
If you think it's such a masterpiece, why do you want to ruin it? Adding a legacy system (and everything needed to support it) is akin to suggesting the developers turn COD into a fishing game.
Last edited by Sunny; May 18, 2023 @ 9:50pm
Wowee. No kidding. The graphics doesn't quite have the same charm as Stardew, somehow
Dynelf May 18, 2023 @ 10:28pm 
Originally posted by Sunny:
If you think it's such a masterpiece, why do you want to ruin it? Adding a legacy system (and everything needed to support it) is akin to suggesting the developers turn COD into a fishing game.
I agree.

Originally posted by 4mMan:
One thing the game is missing, however - is a family legacy system.
It would require:
Eliminating portraits for NPCs (at best, keeping new NPCs portrait-less).
Creating a pool of dialogue for these generations to pick from, which will also rid the game of the uniqueness of its characters.
SOOOO MUCH CODING it's not even funny. You would have to rework the game so much it would basically be a different game. I haven't personally decompiled my game/looked at the source code, but I assume you would need to rework entire classes/functions relating to the player, npc objects, npc behavior, romance, menus, etc.

Concerned Ape is working on his new game, he won't have the time, nor is there a demand, to rework all of his existing systems to be able to implement such a system.

You can always consider learning C#, decompiling the game, studying the game's source code, and creating this generational system as a mod. I believe the endeavor should take you at least a full year (most likely more).
ShadowFox May 19, 2023 @ 6:26am 
Are you wanting the farm to reset back to start or everything stays upgraded and built but relationships reset? It would be pretty simple to make a NG+ type system honestly
Big Convoy May 19, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by ShadowFox:
Are you wanting the farm to reset back to start or everything stays upgraded and built but relationships reset? It would be pretty simple to make a NG+ type system honestly

OP doesn't want a NG+. What the OP wants is for the player and NPCs, to grow old, and eventually die and be replaced by their children. OP also wants this to go on indefinitely.
Malthar May 19, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Big Convoy:
Originally posted by ShadowFox:
Are you wanting the farm to reset back to start or everything stays upgraded and built but relationships reset? It would be pretty simple to make a NG+ type system honestly

OP doesn't want a NG+. What the OP wants is for the player and NPCs, to grow old, and eventually die and be replaced by their children. OP also wants this to go on indefinitely.
and has been offered a game that does exactly this and refused to take it like a petulant child.

Originally posted by 4mMan:
So many Kynseed shills in this thread. Not helpful. Begone.
Sunny May 19, 2023 @ 3:12pm 
I just wanna know if he dislikes Kynseed so much why he wants to turn SDV into it. That's what happens when you take this and make it into a procedural generation legacy game.
Big Convoy May 19, 2023 @ 7:07pm 
Well according to the OP, Stardew Valley is:

Originally posted by 4mMan:
one of the greatest games of all-time.

And that Kynseed is:

Originally posted by 4mMan:
some sub-par wannabe knockoff that can't even cast a shadow on SDV.

OP probably can't comprehend that a game that they don't like has a feature that only games that they like should have that feature.

That aside, implementing this feature will make all NPCs less unique, since they'll just be generic cardboard cutouts. And with procedural generation, could possibly end up creating a bunch of NPCs with exactly similar taste to each other.
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Amberbaum May 19, 2023 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by Big Convoy:
Well according to the OP, Stardew Valley is:

Originally posted by 4mMan:
one of the greatest games of all-time.

And that Kynseed is:

Originally posted by 4mMan:
some sub-par wannabe knockoff that can't even cast a shadow on SDV.

OP probably can't comprehend that a game that they don't like has a feature that only games that they like should have that feature.
By their logic even SDV is a cheap knock-off of the Harvest Moon series. I'm not even sure if this is a SDV fanatic or a troll.
4mMan May 20, 2023 @ 5:00am 
As this simple feature request thread has devolved to nonsense thanks to the shills and trolls, I won’t be making any additional posts after this one. Stardew Valley would benefit from a family legacy system, if built well, as it would provide near-infinite playability and the ability for the player to see their children grow up to take on lives of their own. Thank you to those who provided useful and thoughtful feedback.
ChrillBill May 20, 2023 @ 5:35am 
Just because people don't agree with you and can make good arguments for why they don't agree doesn't make them trolls or shills. You are really doing yourself a major disfavour by reacting this way. The reason people recommend Kynseed is because it has what you are looking for while also offering a similar experience to Stardew Valley. That said, they are also quite different from each other and Kynseeds legacy system certainly needs some polishing. Which also further proves that these things are really difficult to implement. Stardew Valley also only has one dev, while Kynseed is being worked on by a smaller studio.

I personally wouldn't mind a Family Legacy System at all by the way. I think the current system feels a bit meh and that has always been my opinion when it comes to the family aspect in Stardew Valley. Which is also why it isn't a huge priority for me in game to start a family. I appreciate having a spouse, but that's pretty much it. So I do think your idea is good, and it would definitely make the game a bit more fun for me. But from a realistic perspective it is highly unlikely to happen at this point in time due to the heavy rework it would require. It might however happen within the modding community and especially since the upcoming 1.6 update is going to make modding much easier for modders.

This type of change is also something that would change the entire vibe of the game. Like I said I wouldn't personally mind it, but I don't feel it is something I need in order to keep playing and loving the game. I have accepted that NPC's don't age in this game, that your kids will remain toddlers for eternity (unless you decide to turn them into doves...). But my point is; the new vibe such a drastic change would create might not (and probably never was) part of the dev's vision for the game. Which is also something we have to respect. :brownchicken:
Maya-Neko May 20, 2023 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by 4mMan:
As this simple feature request thread has devolved to nonsense thanks to the shills and trolls, I won’t be making any additional posts after this one. Stardew Valley would benefit from a family legacy system, if built well, as it would provide near-infinite playability and the ability for the player to see their children grow up to take on lives of their own. Thank you to those who provided useful and thoughtful feedback.

If it's such a simple feature, then it shouldn't be that hard to do it yourself, because Concerned Ape will most likely not do something like that (as he already said, that the game is finished for now) and it's hard to get modders to follow someone elses dream (unless you pay for it, which is probably your best option here, if you don't want to do it yourself). Try to get into contact with other modders, so that you can learn the basics and get a hang of how to mod a game.

And don't come with "but i can't code". Concerned Ape as well learned everything he needed while working on SDV, so you can most certainly do it as well, especially since the framework already exists with the game, so you only need to do half the work at this point.
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Date Posted: May 12, 2023 @ 7:50am
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