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siggesatan Jan 29, 2024 @ 7:36am
fix it!
yoh dev CA
fix so you can destroy the horseflute! its bothersome to have several of them unable to get rid of them if you so wish!
as of now not even Pam the Destroyer seem to be able to destroy them as they magicaly get spawned in to your inventory.

not shure if something will crash the game if you try to fix this with full inventory

but anyone would agree that it is to much work to get rid of an item players dont want more than one of!

while your at it the drumblock and fluteblock have the simelar issue atleast the one picked up at the museum as a reward.
not cool when you override players choise in the mater ConsernApe
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Sunny Jan 30, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by siggesatan:
or do ineed to remind there is the item limitation glich just hypotherical what would happen if you exseed the limit of a bunch of items that is non deletable just hypotheticaly?

oh yeah if it is a possibility then it is an issue of would you say a game crash that wont even start up the game not include waranty if it is on console? (lucky me i am on PC)

this isn't possible. an issue with a save isn't going to keep the game from loading forever and ever amen. that's not how it works. it's not how any of this works.

your "hypotherical" situations are bunk, this is not the issue you're claiming it is. this issue has no impact whatsoever on game or save stability.

this is a you problem, not a dev problem. it was set that way for the MUCH MORE COMMON possibility that people don't want to accidentally delete the dang horse flute and aren't going to buy more than 1 because why. it's a protection for a different issue, not a bug.

put the extra 2 in a chest out of your way and problem solved.
Last edited by Sunny; Jan 30, 2024 @ 12:17pm
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by Sunny:
Originally posted by siggesatan:
or do ineed to remind there is the item limitation glich just hypotherical what would happen if you exseed the limit of a bunch of items that is non deletable just hypotheticaly?

oh yeah if it is a possibility then it is an issue of would you say a game crash that wont even start up the game not include waranty if it is on console? (lucky me i am on PC)

this isn't possible. an issue with a save isn't going to keep the game from loading forever and ever amen. that's not how it works. it's not how any of this works.

your "hypotherical" situations are bunk, this is not the issue you're claiming it is. this issue has no impact whatsoever on game or save stability.

this is a you problem, not a dev problem. it was set that way for the MUCH MORE COMMON possibility that people don't want to accidentally delete the dang horse flute and aren't going to buy more than 1 because why. it's a protection for a different issue, not a bug.

put the extra 2 in a chest out of your way and problem solved.
or maby maby its possible to get 2 farmhand in to the world they log of with the stuff in their inventory and then u just deleet the cabins...

placing them in the chest is to admit playing the game the way it was intended well micromanagments and saftey lailings isnt realla something im a fan of if you loose an item you need to feel it thus preventing it to be sold or destroyed good fine but the mesures this is taken is overexadurated and i begin you argue with me for the sake of arguing not admit to any solution doing what you sugest just hid the fact that item should be something you may want to deleet. or atleast have the means to for the same principles as a condom rather have it not neding to use it than needing to use it and not have it.

and plz why do you have the urge to hijag some ones thread when you clearly are no fan of my sugestion its almost likle i dont get to have an opinion acording to you WTF is your problem and dont say its me.
just ghost this threrad plz!
u dont provide anything here anyway
BirbNotBird Jan 31, 2024 @ 4:07am 
Honestly, OP could benefit from toss them in a space he never touch. Or as others suggested, access your save files and removing it.
Better yet, suggest it to CA (in Stardew Discord) instead crying it's a bug. Clear and simple points get everything across.

Nothing here could harm the stability of the game in the degree like OP described.
Heck I run a factorio chain in Stardew and the computer has yet to be broken.

Less foul reactions and less talk my guy.
Your points dissuaded everyone cause you lack a lot of knowledge in coding field to make up this thread.
Stick to your damn true reason of "I find it annoying that horseflutes need a long way to work around to be deleted".
Last edited by BirbNotBird; Jan 31, 2024 @ 4:31am
Sunny Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by siggesatan:
and plz why do you have the urge to hijag some ones thread when you clearly are no fan of my sugestion its almost likle i dont get to have an opinion acording to you WTF is your problem and dont say its me.
just ghost this threrad plz!
u dont provide anything here anyway

I am as allowed to have an opinion (and share it) as you are, and my opinion is that this is a bad idea for the reasons I've stated. If you don't want a discussion or for people to disagree with you, write a blog and turn off comments, this is the wrong place.

The fact of the matter is that this is a feature intentionally done to prevent a problem. You disagree with the implementation, and that's fine. That doesn't make it a bug, and that absolutely does not make it a catastrophic bug.

YOU were *making up* consequences for the "bug" that aren't possible. If you didn't want it pointed out that it's not possible, again -- write a blog, don't tell people to shut up on a discussion forum. Or maybe -- and I know this is a stretch -- don't lie in the first place.

My "problem" is the spread of misinformation.
Last edited by Sunny; Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:27am
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by BirbNotBird:
Honestly, OP could benefit from toss them in a space he never touch. Or as others suggested, access your save files and removing it.
Better yet, suggest it to CA (in Stardew Discord) instead crying it's a bug. Clear and simple points get everything across.

Nothing here could harm the stability of the game in the degree like OP described.
Heck I run a factorio chain in Stardew and the computer has yet to be broken.

Less foul reactions and less talk my guy.
Your points dissuaded everyone cause you lack a lot of knowledge in coding field to make up this thread.
Stick to your damn true reason of "I find it annoying that horseflutes need a long way to work around to be deleted".

well i admit that originaly was the case all i ever wanted was a way to deleet the flute.
the edeting the save file was one of the more constructive sugestion and i did admit it...

and i found your sugestion that one could reach out to CA on Discort.

prehaps its 1 step closer for him to actualy look in to wheither this could be an issue or not.

i never see a good sign stuff that cant be deletet. (normaly that usualy are Key items or uniqe items) i might have mad an error saying the price was 20 qi gems when the fluit actualy cost 50 qi gems.

prehaps if it was implimented like the returnscepter as a uniq purchase/ charakter instead its just brain food for a sugestion on my path.
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Sunny:
Originally posted by siggesatan:
and plz why do you have the urge to hijag some ones thread when you clearly are no fan of my sugestion its almost likle i dont get to have an opinion acording to you WTF is your problem and dont say its me.
just ghost this threrad plz!
u dont provide anything here anyway

I am as allowed to have an opinion (and share it) as you are, and my opinion is that this is a bad idea for the reasons I've stated. If you don't want a discussion or for people to disagree with you, write a blog and turn off comments, this is the wrong place.

The fact of the matter is that this is a feature intentionally done to prevent a problem. You disagree with the implementation, and that's fine. That doesn't make it a bug, and that absolutely does not make it a catastrophic bug.

YOU were *making up* consequences for the "bug" that aren't possible. If you didn't want it pointed out that it's not possible, again -- write a blog, don't tell people to shut up on a discussion forum. Or maybe -- and I know this is a stretch -- don't lie in the first place.

My "problem" is the spread of misinformation.

yeah im sorry for that one it seem like the focus isnt the main topic tough and deraling the OP isnt going to help it was just dossens of reasons why we cant have or should have deeletable items. in the end its just a mater of opinion.

but when thing came out toward me like that. and it also result me geting a warning that Maya-Neko's post broke comunity guidelines. it might be a good idea that we do less personal attack the OP was about if the horceflut could be made so it can be deleeted as IMO it would be consithered a Fix hence the title "Fix This"

and i do apresiate all the tips of circumvent the issue adressed. and i hope we truly can get along.

adressing the issue about missing items . it may have then again it might have been another game but im definently shure the item limit is far less than people may think.
that it sellf may be a very valid reason not wanting to store unwanted items in chests rather trach them or sell them.

but hey this post may not get anywhere.
Last edited by siggesatan; Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:40am
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:39am 
and once again all i am Sorry if this have stired up any drama that was never my intention or purpose!
Sunny Jan 31, 2024 @ 10:43am 
The main topic is "I want to delete the horse flute", is it not?

As such, "no, it's undeletable for a reason" is 100% on topic.

People disagreeing with you =/= derailing or drama.

It's not broken.

Even with the item limit it can not and will not permanently crash your game.

people are giving you ways to solve this; you requested 'fix it' and since this is a PREFERENCE issue, the fix its are things for you alone to do to make it in line with your PREFERENCE, not changes to the game.

Gonna try for an example:

Let's say you can only sleep in a blue room. So you say to your parents, 'hey, I need my room to be blue because I can't sleep'. They say, 'okay, here's some paint.' You say, 'no, no, no, no. I want you to do it for me, AND I want you to paint all other bedrooms in the house blue, because I can't sleep without a blue room so it's the same for my siblings, they also need blue'. Meanwhile, Sally actually prefers her room yellow (and sleeps that way just fine).

Do you see why that's an issue? Sally has a voice and preferences that matter *just as much* as yours. YOU prefer all delete-able items. Other people prefer not being able to delete the flute (to the extent that the developer specially set a special flag on it to make it that way, as in he went out of his way to do it).

A preference calls for an individual solution, not a bug fix. Inventing reasons it's a catastrophic bug that aren't true doesn't make it less of a personal preference.
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siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Sunny:
The main topic is "I want to delete the horse flute", is it not?

As such, "no, it's undeletable for a reason" is 100% on topic.

People disagreeing with you =/= derailing or drama.

It's not broken.

Even with the item limit it can not and will not permanently crash your game.

people are giving you ways to solve this; you requested 'fix it' and since this is a PREFERENCE issue, the fix its are things for you alone to do to make it in line with your PREFERENCE, not changes to the game.

Gonna try for an example:

Let's say you can only sleep in a blue room. So you say to your parents, 'hey, I need my room to be blue because I can't sleep'. They say, 'okay, here's some paint.' You say, 'no, no, no, no. I want you to do it for me, AND I want you to paint all other bedrooms in the house blue, because I can't sleep without a blue room so it's the same for my siblings, they also need blue'. Meanwhile, Sally actually prefers her room yellow (and sleeps that way just fine).

Do you see why that's an issue? Sally has a voice and preferences that matter *just as much* as yours. YOU prefer all delete-able items. Other people prefer not being able to.

A preference calls for an individual solution, not a bug fix. Inventing reasons it's a catastrophic bug that aren't true doesn't make it less of a personal preference.

ah yehai might have mention something about a bug... and crashes... and... well

they are kind of diferent issues entierly. with that being said i probably should not have mentioned them in the first place.

so lets keep to the facts to many items in to many chests and things will start to disapare. (seen this hapen first hand) it has nothing to do with the limitation of once computor but on how the came alcolate to free up space (how it is programed to actualy remedy a preventual system crash.

most programs have them. even OS as in Shutdown.Exe nvm

when that hapen it may be inconvinient if some items is undeletable.
still i think your right (if it was you who mentioned it that no one in their right mind would actualy try this one out)
unless they deliberatly do it (then ahain what if they actualy did it )
purly hypothetical there is a saying that in theory what 1 person think of atleast 2 already tried IRL. (if that is true or not i wouldnt dare speculate on)

but there definently will be some one reding this that may or may not actualy want to see if there may be some truth in what i claim
that it is possible just for FAP reasons alone ...

and what better way to do it than with a non deleetable item.
if the game cant get rid of it (cause nothing can beside messing with the actual files)
all sort of intresting stuff ought to hapen eventualy.
what it is i have no idea of.
but one can only imagine when to much memory is being used.

now if we look in to where i mentioned a bug. i think i mentioned that negative 1 bug that alow 130 goldenwalnuts count sudenly become 129. and yeah is simelar fasion
just likike when items go missing info to can sometimes go missing or revaluate for some reasons.

normaly it is not a big issue for the game play its simply isnt there... unless it is tied to something bigger in my case to reach perfection.

if we take it a step futher and slightly jump back on topick is the main reason i hapen to bee in that situation since i was asked how i ended up with 3 flutes instead of 1.
it was for the money to get the goldenclock and i am kind of an impation guy so i just had a bunch of hopers deconstructed and acidently made 2 purchase with the marked on the flute just next to the hopers instead.

so out of context it all sum up to an item that can not be deleeted. plz let us fokusing on that instead of what was mentioned in between the line of context.

u ofering an metafor like having a paint buket i totaly agree i hapylie deleet the item in game if such means is precented to me.

but if my parnts would ask me fo pay for it then i would go "OH HELL NAH"

and when i say i might look in to the edeting the save file.
but as we already know it is a mater of preference (its not hard to make so i can deleet it)
its not like i am asking ConserneApe to deleet the item for me. (is that even possible? )

the topic might have been just an atempt to get the item fixed.
i looked in to it and others have reacted to some items not being deleetable like drum and flute blocks.
well it depends. the one you get from the museum you cant scrap whel the ones you make you can. literarly making the same item existing with 2 diferent metacode in the item ID.

so some have the undeleetable fetures whil other items dont have them.

and some are some what inbetween like weapons that can be trown in the trashcan but not sold in the shiping bin still you can sel them of at the adventure guid.

things would get thedious if they fill up that fast with out the means to deleet them.

but i also have a wery valid reason for the flute to be something you should be able to deleet. and its because it doesnt Stac so each flute take up 1 inventory spot.

so some atention would be apresiated if this is a issue for Ape to be conserned about (pun intended)
Sunny Jan 31, 2024 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by siggesatan:
but i also have a wery valid reason for the flute to be something you should be able to deleet.

Yes. Your valid reason is, 'I prefer it that way.'

That is the only valid reason you've provided; everything else you have fabricated/invented/isn't true/that's not how it works/is a wild and totally irrelevant hypothetical, or is just straight out nonsense.

Since the valid reason is 'I prefer', then you fix it yourself: mod it, edit your save file, or put it somewhere out of the way.

Heck, none of this would have been an issue if when you misclicked, you went 'oh, I made a mistake' and reloaded the save from that morning.

the topic might have been just an atempt to get the item fixed.

it
isn't
broken
that
feature
is
intentional

but one can only imagine when to much memory is being used.

the worst case scenario -- absolute worst -- has two singular consequences:

1) the game crashes to desktop
2) the person doing the wildly unreasonable thing to see what happens sees that 'the game crashes to desktop' is the result

"the game could crash if somebody intentionally sets out to crash it" isn't the gotcha you appear to think it is. you can crash Microsoft Excel if you abuse it, too. And EVEN THEN, it will not be permanent. No actual damage will be done.
Last edited by Sunny; Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:24pm
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Sunny:
Originally posted by siggesatan:
but i also have a wery valid reason for the flute to be something you should be able to deleet.

Yes. Your valid reason is, 'I prefer it that way.'

That is the only valid reason you've provided; everything else you have fabricated/invented/isn't true/that's not how it works/is a wild and totally irrelevant hypothetical, or is just straight out nonsense.

Since the valid reason is 'I prefer', then you fix it yourself: mod it, edit your save file, or put it somewhere out of the way.

Heck, none of this would have been an issue if when you misclicked, you went 'oh, I made a mistake' and reloaded the save from that morning.

the topic might have been just an atempt to get the item fixed.

it
isn't
broken
that
feature
is
intentional

i never stated it was broken that is someting you and others pulled out oif the hat
WHAT DID I ASK ABOUT PULLING SOME DRAMA?

your opinion may not be exccused on the expense that you must be right because i being wrong here "just stop get some help"

if somethings cant be fixed, like you for exampel, would that mean your broken ?
ofcourse not.
what noncense are you babeling about?

fix it is refering to some quality improvments and have nothing to do with you gaslighting my opinion by projecting Hubris.

im pretty shure i tried my best not to adress you opinion in a disrespectfull maner.
but if this is gona be the case with you, then prehaps its better the moderators lock the post!

i couldnt care less if there is no way for you to improve your self.

unfortunently you remind me of someone i avoid like the plague
as some people you really shoundt engage in a discusion with.

u keep talking back is deliberat!
You chosing to act up can also be deliberate on your side...
i tried but you simply make it impossible to have a meningfull dialog when all that come out from you is personal plz it the internet. shurly you have better things to do than diminishing posts on Steam.

ofcourse it was a deliberat choise to make it undeleetable. changes have been made before in the past so prehaps it is not wrong to hope for a deliberat choise of change in that particular stupid feture (all opinion reserved)

and if you still think its BS then others than me make simelar threads hoping to adress ConsernApe personaly!

https://steamcommunity.com/app/413150/discussions/0/1742232339925223841/

so its not uncalled for
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
hm that thread actualy gave me some ideas that may be worth thrying out. like that stump theory in the seekret woods. of if you can hold some items in a temporarly inventory space like hoppers and get them to plunch in the water or something... well i have to flutes to test with. and if they finaly hapen to get lost its noting but win win for me...
Sunny Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
stating that something needs to be fixed implies that it's broken, and your thread title is "fix it"

when you make up nonsense to support your opinion being more than just an opinion (and permanently breaking somebody's stuff is straight up nonsense), it's not a personal attack when somebody points out that computers don't work that way

they don't work that way

you're the only one here being disrespectful. me saying something you don't LIKE isn't disrespectful. it's also not gaslighting. I fully agree that your opinion is that items you can't delete are bad. What you are wrong about are the consequences of items that can't be deleted. They're not what you have claimed. This is not opinion. This is fact.

If you don't want people pointing out that things don't work a certain way, don't tell untruths about how they work.

u keep talking back is deliberat!

Yes, this is a discussion board. I am not off topic, nor am I violating the rules of the forum -- thus, I am allowed to participate in the discussion no matter how many times you tell me to stop posting. If you post something I feel like responding to, I'm going to respond to it. That's what forums are for.

Hint: if you continue to make things up about how computers work, I am not gonna shut up.
Last edited by Sunny; Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:55pm
siggesatan Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:04pm 
well in case of what maters

i keep you all updated on my quest to vanquish this mighty... eh Horseflute's l

ast atempt went to skull cavern to hug some serpents ended up in hospital alot manage to lose 10k gold in the prosess just to realice you cant lose this items so yeah...

that one was a bust...
LuckySara Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
I highly suggest to everyone to be respectful to one another on the forum.
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