so anyone else feel bad for joja mart? (SPOILERS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER ENDING)

[AzureAether]

gotta admit,pierre got some guts telling everyone to boycott jojamart right infront of the manager (which i can understand why,the guy got all his customers taken from him right infront of his face)

but did they really had to close down joja mart?i mean i wish they would add another place to buy things like furniture or household items.seriously though,where am i gonna buy more wallpaper and floors?

[AvatarMan]

Metatron님이 먼저 게시:

Why feel bad. Theres are exactly 3 employees and two of them dont even live in town.

Register girl, Sam, Shane and Morris.

[AvatarMan]

Metatron님이 먼저 게시:

Sir Ruffington님이 먼저 게시:

Register girl, Sam, Shane and Morris.

4 then. And its not as though any of the rest of people in town do anything either. Theres the merchants and... a small population of non-working young people and retirees... I mean where the hell do people get money from aside from merchants?

They pretty much don't, even the merchants don't do too well in terms of money. Heck, Marnie comments from time to time that money is tight or that she could use the money.

It feels like the player is the only one who lives comfortably (enough to buy every single person a mansion).

[vernicom]

at the beginning you work for Joja Corp, and the laboral conditions are so lame... nop, no regret.

[perspektive361]

F*** Joja. Seriously.

[Freddy]

I once had an interessting conversation about Joja. I was at a friends house and tried out stardew. I said to my friend how evil Joja is. He asked me why. I told him that there is skeleton in the office and the protagnist gets realy burned out by his job. My friend said that the skeleton could be jus a puppet to play scare pranks on new employes and that office work just isnt for everyone.

[Rio]

Pierre is a jerk, Morris is a jerk. I wanted to try and know Morris but I'm not allowed too. He only exists to offer the membership while your on the good path. It didn't help my opinion of Pierre when he told me not to get any ideas of opening my own store as the relationship increased with him. Or finding the Cult altar inside his store/house to koda.

Now theres a big empty closed building each time I go into town.

At first I had thought the checkout girl was penny, supporting her out of the job mother. Annoyed that no matter how much the relationship imporoved she ignored me there, unlike shane.

I restarted to try dating pierre's daughter this time while also joining joja and running him out of town this time.

[Chicxulub]

The towns people are greedy as h@ll. They like you when you give them plenty of gifts. When you talk with Pierre, all he thinks of is his profit. Imho they are not a bit better than Joja.

[Exiled Alchemist]

Nilex님이 먼저 게시:

The towns people are greedy as h@ll. They like you when you give them plenty of gifts. When you talk with Pierre, all he thinks of is his profit. Imho they are not a bit better than Joja.

True but as the player you can be a lazy greedy jerk as well. Start a new game and do nothing but check the mail and sleep. You will keep getting the welcome to town letter from Lewis that contains 500g.

[Tasorius]

AzureAether님이 먼저 게시:

gotta admit,pierre got some guts telling everyone to boycott jojamart right infront of the manager (which i can understand why,the guy got all his customers taken from him right infront of his face)

but did they really had to close down joja mart?i mean i wish they would add another place to buy things like furniture or household items.seriously though,where am i gonna buy more wallpaper and floors?

KatherineOfSky님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah, Shane's problems are real. After Joja is torn down, all he does is hang out in the bar and drink, complaining about being unemployed :-(

ON the flip side, completing Joja's warehouse doesn't destroy Pierre's....

I see Joja as a good thing, since it keeps other employed. When finished, nobody visits the Community Center in any case!

(At heart, I love the Community Center idea and bundles and the challenge... but in the game's reality, Joja is actually a better choice for the community... not to mention that Pierre has competition... he's so greedy, I'm sure he would love to jack up his prices when JojaMart collapses!)

You don't get it at all.
Losing crappy jobs is nothing compared to destroying the home of the spirits.
It needs to be protected from those who want to destroy it.

I hope there is an update that deals with the problems here though, where the mart is replaced by something good after it is destroyed.

Then I want to take on the rest of the company.

[Pixel Peeper]

The Community Center isn't the home of the Junimo. They say themselves that it's not, and if you actually go all the way and fix it entirely, they leave. Even if you choose to have it destroyed, Pelican Town doesn't really lose anything; they weren't using the Community Center anyway, and apparently weren't willing to chip in to restore it themselves (which they could easily have done).

That said, it's still evil to side with Joja, and closing the JojaMart is not harmful at all.

JojaMart employees losing their jobs is a good thing. Sam gets hired at the Museum, and I would assume that Shane can turn his Blue Chicken breeding and care hobby into an actual job. The two "real" JojaMart employees (cashier and Morris) losing their jobs is a good thing too; they were being harmful, now hopefully they'll start contributing to society instead of supporting a corporate monster that's making the world a lot worse.

Which is exactly what you're doing if you side with Joja.

Things are exactly as they seem:

Fix the Community Center, close Joja = Good; villagers are happier, Joja gets less powerful
Buy a Joja Membership = Evil; Joja gets more powerful
Don't fix the Community Center or buy Membership (neither is mandatory) = Neutral

[TheWashableBomb]

red255님이 먼저 게시:

this is a game. game is supposed To END. After it ends you are supposed to imagine the ending, and it shouldn't suck.

What are you trying to say here? That the game sucks because it doesn't end? WTF kind of reasoning is that? Your whole post is an illogical rant.

[entropy3ko]

Frankly, no, I don't feel bad for JoJa... it's like feeling bad for WalMart.

Although JoJa is not evil in the fullest sense of the world, perhaps, it's a corporation just like WallMart: it exploits the workers and has only profit in mind.

Arguing that Joja is "making use of the Community Center that everyone abandoned" as if a positive thing, is simply wrong.
Joja destroyed the community center to build an ugly warehouse. It's as if WallMart or Amazon would tear down an historical monument to build some ugly warehouse were people work long hours for minimum wage (unless replaced by drones).

Just because the vilagers were wrong to let the CC go to ruin it does not excuse Joja.
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Also I think it's nonsense to think of the people of the town as "greedy", just because of the gift mechanics.

Clearly the devs had to have some sort of mechanic to improve their relationship with the villagers and this is what they chose (mostly based on the Harvest Moon model).

Gameplay ans story do not always match, unfortunately... otherwise one might argue that you are some sort of superhuman never actually needing to eat or drink or go to the toilet...