Scarecrow Confusion

[Zara]

So I've been doing some looking around about the actual Scarecrow radius, and I keep finding this picture

http://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/images/f/f9/Scarecrow_Range.png

However, the description says the Scarecrow protects in a radius of 8, so shouldn't it be in a like a Diamond shape, so 8 squares up, down, left and right, and then you would do like a staircase pattern from one point to the next? Logically that picture makes no sense given the description, so please, set me straight.

Also, what is the approximate range on Lightning Rods?

[Elegant Caveman]

I agree, the description makes no sense.

For now, I'm trusting the picture, and I haven't had any crow-troubles.

I guess you could plant some crops away from other scarecrows and have them be just outside the range of the picture, diagonally, to test and see if it extends a full 8 tiles instead of 6...

[Ottofyre]

Originally posted by Zara:

So I've been doing some looking around about the actual Scarecrow radius, and I keep finding this picture

http://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/images/f/f9/Scarecrow_Range.png

However, the description says the Scarecrow protects in a radius of 8, so shouldn't it be in a like a Diamond shape, so 8 squares up, down, left and right, and then you would do like a staircase pattern from one point to the next? Logically that picture makes no sense given the description, so please, set me straight.

Also, what is the approximate range on Lightning Rods?

I'm assuming since the description says "radius" then it's supposed to be a circle, in which case the template shown is pretty close to correct. Much moreso than a diamond, at least.

[Neo Genesis]

Well now I feel stupid with my 4 scarecrows guarding my tiny little farming area. lol

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Hiirazz:

I'm assuming since the description says "radius" then it's supposed to be a circle, in which case the template shown is pretty close to correct. Much moreso than a diamond, at least.

I guess it depends on how you take it. Taking "radius" to mean "it's a circle", then, yeah, it's more of a circle now than if it were a diamond.

But it specifies 8 tiles, and this is a blocky, angular, tile-based world. "8 tile radius" can also easily be interpreted as "the scarecrow will affect an area up to 8 tiles away". We're given the specific measurement of "8 tiles", but the actual coverage area in the image doesn't represent this.

We get 6 tiles in a diagonal; we should either get 8, or 4 (if diagonals are counted as two tiles, which would not be an uncommon way of calculating AoE in games).

I really wish we could just get an in-game AoE indicator on the Scarecrow.

[Zara]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

I really wish we could just get an in-game AoE indicator on the Scarecrow.

Very much this, it would make things so much easier

[Armadeadn]

I'm not sure what version of the game I have compared to you guys (I couldn't see it marked anywhere) but the description of my scarecrows is something like "has limited range, about 20 tiles" I just figured it was a 20 tile radius rather than rough diameter and designed my crop accordingly. I have put a 2 scarecrows in the center 2 blocks apart vertically and have 2 horizontal rows of 5 blocks of 9 tiles each side (8 crops and a quality sprinkler in the middle) and I have had zero troubles with crows since i did this. Even the scarecrow says he has scared off 10 crows so far.
I am not very far into the game, mid summer year 1, but have around 50,000 cash mostly from blueberry crops and with that reinvested into cranberries in the fall its pretty much going to be game over. So don't fret over a few crows. It's a simple game to exploit for maximum profits. (tho very fun while doing so)

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by Armadeadn:

I'm not sure what version of the game I have compared to you guys (I couldn't see it marked anywhere) but the description of my scarecrows is something like "has limited range, about 20 tiles"

Based on your description of your in-game information and behavior, I'd be inclined to guess "a pirated version, compared to our non-pirated-and-therefore-actually-patched version."..

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Armadeadn:

I'm not sure what version of the game I have compared to you guys (I couldn't see it marked anywhere) but the description of my scarecrows is something like "has limited range, about 20 tiles" I just figured it was a 20 tile radius rather than rough diameter and designed my crop accordingly. I have put a scarecrow in the center and have 5 blocks of 9 tiles each side (8 crops and a quality sprinkler in the middle) and I have had zero troubles with crows since i did this.

That's the old version. I forget the number exactly, but, yeah.

It used to be a 20 tile diameter/10 tile radius, but was changed to an 8 tile radius. Since you're on the old version, your 9 of distance fits neatly into the max radius of 10.

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

Based on your description of your in-game information and behavior, I'd be inclined to guess "a pirated version, compared to our non-pirated-and-therefore-actually-patched version."..

Or GOG?

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

Based on your description of your in-game information and behavior, I'd be inclined to guess "a pirated version, compared to our non-pirated-and-therefore-actually-patched version."..

Or GOG?

That does seem like a rather less cynical assumption than my own.

[Armadeadn]

GOG, I don't have many games actually off of steam but find the forums very helpful. With my limited internet in northern BC I don't do many updates of games. If it ain't broke don't fix it kinda mentality. I learned the hard way with Ark Survival!! That game can chew through my monthly limits very quickly. But seeing as I am out of date I retract my earlier statement.

[vernicom]

And some crops may disapear, using scarecrows, not are 100%.

[rincewind]

Yeah, my crops keep vanishing... I'm filling everywhere with scarecrows and lighting rods.

I would LOVE to be able to check the radious of those in game.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Armadeadn:

GOG, I don't have many games actually off of steam but find the forums very helpful. With my limited internet in northern BC I don't do many updates of games. If it ain't broke don't fix it kinda mentality. I learned the hard way with Ark Survival!! That game can chew through my monthly limits very quickly. But seeing as I am out of date I retract my earlier statement.

You're comparing an offline singleplayer game of ~500MB with updates that are probably a couple of MB at most (last hotfix was less than one MB) to an always-online multiplayer game of ~40GB with who-knows-how-big updates?

Of course ARK is going to chew through your data...

[Armadeadn]

I love the concept of Ark which is why I got it, It is basically Stardew but 3D with DINOSAURS!, but due to my internet limitations I only play over LAN with the wife. The only bug in stardew that I have come across is that I am unable put back down crab pots once placed somewhere. Solution = don't pick them up once placed. no need for updating so far, It's a solid little game.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Armadeadn:

I love the concept of Ark which is why I got it, It is basically Stardew but 3D with DINOSAURS!, but due to my internet limitations I only play over LAN with the wife.

Oh, that's neat, I didn't know LAN was an option. I assumed you -had- to play online; my bad.

And I wasn't saying you shouldn't play ARK, but simply that it seemed odd to compare Stardew's tiny updates to ARK's, which I imagine are considerably bigger.