What Am I Missing About Cows/Milk/Cheese?

[Saint Landwalker]

So I finally built a barn, bought a couple of moo-cows (as opposed to hay-cows[www.pro-link.us]), and started squeezing out some milk and converting it to cheese.

But... cheese doesn't seem like much of a step up, as far as sale price goes. Eggs get a jump from 25g to 100g when they're processed into mayonnaise, but milk only bumps from 85g to 100g... and once you start getting Large Milk, the milk looks like it's actually worth more (110g vs 100g).

So I feel like I'm missing something as far as dairy production is concerned. Is there something blindingly obvious (other than "Artisan Perk", which is nice but doesn't change the fact that Milk > Cheese just doesn't seem to offer much) that I'm just not getting here?

[Elegant Caveman]

That's an interesting question...

The only benefit I can see to having a barn is for the bundles/achievements, maybe for cooking (I'd have to look at the recipes to see if any of the ones that use milk/cheese seem especially worth it, but I'm too lazy to do that right now).

Even the higher-tier animals aren't really impressive.

Then again, I can't say I'm impressed with the coop either. Animals just seem to pretty much suck overall, as far as raw profit goes.

I see them more as a "side project". They'll give you resources to finish bundles, and they kind of make your farm feel more alive. But they're extra work, and hardly seem worth the effort if you're just looking for money.

[Giulisk8]

I'd say that with a high farming skill, Large Milk helps greatly in getting a goldstar Cheese (150 gold worth), but from a profit point of view, animal handling is a waste of time.
Even re-selling animals at 5hearts is not such a big profit, considering how much time you spent to raise them at that point.
Maybe (a loooong and stretched maybe) the mating of barn animals and the egg hatching (with the later of the two the player has more control) could be counted as extra profit, but i'm still wondering if it's worth the hassle.

[dubesor]

the cheese presses are very minor costs and they boost your milk prices permanently by upgrading them to cheese. I get over 200 for cheese (can't check right now exact price) since a gold star value is 150 and then you get all the bonuses on top (artisan etc.). I think it's definitely worth it.

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by dubesor:

the cheese presses are very minor costs and they boost your milk prices permanently by upgrading them to cheese. I get over 200 for cheese (can't check right now exact price) since a gold star value is 150 and then you get all the bonuses on top (artisan etc.). I think it's definitely worth it.

I suppose that once you butter up your cows (har har!) to the point where they're providing Large Milk (or, perhaps, replace them with sufficiently happy goats), and you have Artisan, that the gain is at least... okay. 225g per day for gold-star cow-cheese could be worse. But that's still the same as gold-star chicken-mayonnaise, which has a much lower "entrance cost" (and which is a proportionately much better improvement on the raw material input).

I think that in the long run, yes, right now livestocking is pretty much a waste of time. When all I had were my chickens and ducks, it wasn't too much of a hassle, but it also wasn't too much of a profit source. Now that I've added a couple of cows, the hassle has gone up disproportionately to the financial gain. I'm really just doing them for the community center bundle, but man, it feels like busy work.

[Kazaanh]

The worst thing is that I went with Rancher perk ( which adds 10% value to the animal products, note animal products not artisan products and speeds up heart-building with cows/sheeps etc )

And what the opposite side of the perk has? Bonus to the Artisan Goods, 50% more worth. This makes no sense at all, because while eggs,milk counts as Animal Products I get 10% price for them but once I convert them to cheese/mayonase its counts as Artisan Products, thus my Rancher perk is useless.

Who thought it would be good design.

[Kurzidan]

Cheese and Milk are both more recipe-centric upgrades, if you ask me... and Part of shipping everything.

However. In Farming, You can choose to make crops worth more instead of Animal products (10% vs 10% profit improvement)

And then later on, when you finally reach that illustirous level 10 in farming, Your choices will be 10% crop growth (.. oh boy.. at best.. at BEST... 3 days less... rounded up... if you want fast, deluxe spped gro is better... not that either will do all that much.)
Or 50% more profit on artisan goods (hot damn!)

Meaning Cheese base is a better
meaning cheese gold is a better
Meaning Ancient wine. Is better.

Foraging also has the chance of double forage (works on Quartz, Truffles, Fruit bat items)
And the result that all Foraged items are max quality. (works on Quartz, Truffles, Fruit bat items) (i.e, anything that you pick up.... doesn't work on Eggs... ) .

[jani]

goat cheese sell beter in 200g, or whit artisan perk 300g

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by jani:

goat cheese sell beter in 200g, or whit artisan perk 300g

Goat Milk (like Duck Eggs) also appears half as frequently, so the fact that it sells for twice as much is not really useful.

[Mora]

Many recipes Double or almost triple the sale price of products. like making tortilla from i haven't try the omelet, but that one needs milk i was thinking on using regular milk and eggs for that i see how it goes.
I know that cakes are a lot more money they also use eggs and milk.