RANT: Grandpa Honors?! The f..? (potential spoilers)

[Peak Imouto]

OK, so the spirit of my beloved grand pa just showed up one night and basically told me I suck.

I have all my skills maxed. Friends with most people in town. Married with fully upgraded house. Reached level 120 of mine, unlocked sewers, went to floor 25 of the skull cave, have all my tools upgraded (except hoe which I kept at steel). I have more than half of the community center restored, and I have even caught most of the legendary fish.

Yet my grandpa just showed up and gave me a 3/13 score, shamed me and said he regretted leaving the farm to me in his will.

The old fart spent all that energy to disobey the laws of physics to speak to me beyond the grave just to take a huge dump on all my achievements and complain that I havent completed his "honors" that I was never privy to knowing anything about.

If he wanted to give me a quest, he should have given me the details in his will! He cant just show up after two years and expect me to telepathically have known what he wanted me to accomplish with his groty-♥♥♥ shack he spent like, what, 70 years on yet accomplishing nothing compared to me? How was I supposed to know what he wanted of me? How was I supposed to know he was even judging me?

I came from a office job, no experience in farming what so ever, yet after a mere two years, I have developed his shed into a mansion, made more than a million gold from crops and animals, became an expert miner, a legendary fisherman, a slime-killing, skeleton bashing hero worthy of a final fantasy game AND a respectable member of the community that has helped restore most of the towns broken infrastructure... Yet he shows and take a huge dump on all that because I wasn't also a psychic medium capable of reading his hidden wishes from beyond the veil?!

HE DIDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHAT I HAD DONE WRONG!!

Grandpa is a ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

EDIT: Well, it seems gramps has had a change of heart!

Patch notes 1.5: http://steamcommunity.com/games/413150/announcements/detail/842542556770852896

I personally would have preferred if they somehow made it obvious what our goals were, or maybe gave us a halfway check. Like "I am worried/glad blah blah about your progress, but you still need to blah blah". Maybe even change the time limit to the end of year 3 instead of the start of it :)

[Savok]

Looking at that list though, am I right in reading you don't need kids?

[Konachibi]

Origineel geplaatst door Nepnep:

You must consider you took whole xx years to get there. The land had to be payed for by something.
All 99 of the old guys rarecrows are gone. The hardwood lumbermill too!
Not to mention his beloved goat Funkelbottom.
It's understandable that he's a bit salty.

But then when you get there there's only a decrepid old house and one demolished building that was presumably a barn, and considering that some of the rocks scattered around the place are veritable boulders, and oak and maple trees don't grow THAT fast, then grandpa must have spent his entire farming life sitting on his backside only growing crops and occassionbally milking some cows and doing nothing else, and then retired at the age of 40 and left the place to rot for however long it takes for you to take over. In all that time he never thought to go back and do some regular maintenance to keep it in good repair for when his grandchild took over it, and then when he hands it over he expects you to work frickin' miracles to get it back on it's feet.

Not just that but take a moment to consider one little thing. Farmers are, in many ways, the foundation of any civilised society. Without farmers to breed animals, grow crops and generate the various foods we take for granted, people wouldn't have even a 10th of the food to eat as we do. Farmers keep everyone alive, so why does old grandpappy have to be so narky when he comes to evaluate the work you've done?

[Weizen1988]

Thats a bit overly dickish and extremely unclear what he is judging you on from the in game perspective, his whole death bed speech is largely against the desire for money and all that, saying friends and nature are more important, and yet both of those things get you few if any points.

Either change his early game dialog to make it clear all he cares about his money, or making friends/ fixing the center should be worth more points, particularly since fixing that damn thing is the primary plot objective. I dont care if i get a low score, I do care about unclear mechanics and the impact this seems to be having on peoples enjoyment.

[AzureAether]

Origineel geplaatst door Konachibi:

Origineel geplaatst door Nepnep:

You must consider you took whole xx years to get there. The land had to be payed for by something.
All 99 of the old guys rarecrows are gone. The hardwood lumbermill too!
Not to mention his beloved goat Funkelbottom.
It's understandable that he's a bit salty.

But then when you get there there's only a decrepid old house and one demolished building that was presumably a barn, and considering that some of the rocks scattered around the place are veritable boulders, and oak and maple trees don't grow THAT fast, then grandpa must have retired at the age of 40 and left the place to rot for however long it takes for you to take over. In all that time he never thought to go back and do some regular maintenance to keep it in good repair for when his grandchild took over it, and then when he hands it over he expects you to work frickin' miracles to get it back on it's feet.

Not just that but take a moment to consider one little thing. Farmers are, in many ways, the foundation of any civilised society. Without farmers to breed animals, grow crops and generate the various foods we take for granted, people wouldn't have even a 10th of the food to eat as we do. Farmers keep everyone alive, so why does old grandpappy have to be so narky when he comes to evaluate the work you've done?

huh,talk about a hypocrite
(grandpa i mean,not you)

[Zyfie]

Because he did all that and much more in just one month.
Robins house is entirely made from hardwood provided by grandpa.
Even the community center was made by the old guy.
I'm sure grandpa had a massive storehouse at the place where the Joja thing stands today.
The town ruined his legacy!

[AzureAether]

Origineel geplaatst door Nepnep:

Because he did all that and much more in just one month.
Robins house is entirely made from hardwood provided by grandpa.
Even the community center was made by the old guy.
I'm sure grandpa had a massive storehouse at the place where the Joja thing stands today.
The town ruined his legacy!

im surprised he wanted US to go there,so much for a change of life

[Zyfie]

He wanted us to take over the town.
He thought we were able to see the tragedy that happened there.
But we couldn't even fulfill some easy goals on the way to domination.

[Kazaanh]

Origineel geplaatst door Proteus:

Aye ... the only ruin you can see is that of his greenhouse.
But considering how tiny his hut was, I guess that was all he could afford in his life.

Well, I am just halfway through year 2 ... and I guess, with my coop, my barn and my mayonaise, preserve and beverage production I consider myself already to be more successful than Gramps in his whole life.

If he judges me harshly at the beginning of the next year I´ll just assume that the old underarchiever is jealous of my successes *bah* :D

lol

on my second playthrough im going to side with Joja, buy membership and turn Pelican Town into the commercial city and no one is gonna stop me.

I will turn my farmplots into the Joja factories , Pierrie will have to close his little grocery shop and I am gonna marry his daughter Abigail.

Then I will watch how everything he loved is collapsing.

[AzureAether]

i like how we started from hating/ranting/whateveryouwannacallit at grampa then we just straight went to destroy everything

[Konachibi]

Origineel geplaatst door AzureAether:

i like how we started from hating/ranting/whateveryouwannacallit at grampa then we just straight went to destroy everything

Personally I don't care what grandpa wants. From the way it seems, he wants us to turn into the nature equivalent of Joja, and the point of moving away from the city and setting up a farm is to get away from that kind of stuff. I mean geez, people don't always turn out the way their family want them to (heck I know that more than anyone), so all these expectations grandpa has is a little controlling really. All I wanted when I got into this was to become a farmer, and to do it as efficiently as possible, and lookie:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=640300468

This crop field is the model of efficiency. Come the following year, I'll have covered most of the field like this and will be raking in hundreds of thousands of gold every week and providing food for not just the town, but every village, town and city within a 300 mile radius. That's a far more morally-righteous accomplishment than anything grandpa could have expected.

[AzureAether]

Origineel geplaatst door Konachibi:

Origineel geplaatst door AzureAether:

i like how we started from hating/ranting/whateveryouwannacallit at grampa then we just straight went to destroy everything

Personally I don't care what grandpa wants. From the way it seems, he wants us to turn into the nature equivalent of Joja, and the point of moving away from the city and setting up a farm is to get away from that kind of stuff. I mean geez, people don't always turn out the way their family want them to (heck I know that more than anyone), so all these expectations grandpa has is a little controlling really. All I wanted when I got into this was to become a farmer, and to do it as efficiently as possible, and lookie:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=640300468

This crop field is the model of efficiency. Come the following year, I'll have covered most of the field like this and will be raking in hundreds of thousands of gold every week and providing food for not just the town, but every village, town and city within a 300 mile radius. That's a far more morally-righteous accomplishment than anything grandpa could have expected.

Wow,that is a pretty good crop plot there,you could possibly try to get the quality sprinklers for a 3x3 (minus the middle) watering field
Also i like the way your character looks,but her eyes just seem to stare into my soul....

[Zyfie]

I prefer the iridium version
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=640383793

[Konachibi]

Origineel geplaatst door AzureAether:

Wow,that is a pretty good crop plot there,you could possibly try to get the quality sprinklers for a 3x3 (minus the middle) watering field
Also i like the way your character looks,but her eyes just seem to stare into my soul....

Quality sprinklers aren't worth the cost to create. A single trip to the mine can easily let me make 4-5 sprinklers, as I have the miner proficiency to generate additional ore, and transmuting copper bars into iron bars takes barely any time at all, but quality sprinklers would require a lot more materials and time, which is not beneficial in the long run to simply gain a few extra tiles of crops.

[CeliriaRose]

I just wanted to apologize for my comment yesterday. I was in a bad mood and looking back I realized I kind of acted like a jerk.

[Wasserstern]

Very Harvest Moon like.

I played the Super Nintendo Harvest Moon. It has the same thing. And if I remember correctly the game ends after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

I know the game is kind of a homage to Harvest Moon, obviously. Just look at some of the animations, or the festivals, or the game itself lol.

Kind of dislike that though, I mean the festivals are kind of boring so far.