First day of Summer and all my crops die?

[GOobERdOod]

So indeed the first day of Summer came and I walk outside to see all my crops are dead and dried. I can't even get any seeds back from all that was planted.
All that gold invested in all those seed and now just dead???

Am I missing some strategy here? You would think at least you could salvage some seeds from your dried up crop because investing all that money was a real loss.

[Bloodhawk]

The seeds all say "Harvest in [season]" on them when you buy them. That implies that you can't harvest them in any other season. What else could that possibly mean?

[GOobERdOod]

Perpetual_Retrospect a écrit :

GOObER a écrit :

Real farmers can gather seeds from their previous crops to replant.

Yeah but only in extremely rare situations/certain crops do they gather their own seed.

Generally (at least with modern farming/in the Round-up Ready style genetic modification era) seed is purchased from dealers each year.

Yea the modern Monsanto (round-up) way is a frankenstein nightmare in reality. The way Monsanto is forcing farmers to buy their new seeds is so awful. It's not how I base my view of farming. Old farmers who respected nature gathered their own seeds so they could re-plant - they were not steared into buying seeds from a Monsanto type Corporation.

[GOobERdOod]

⎛⎝#1 Catgirl⎠⎞ a écrit :

The seeds all say "Harvest in [season]" on them when you buy them. That implies that you can't harvest them in any other season. What else could that possibly mean?

Well hey shoot me for not reading the harvest times. And I forgot the #1 rule in life that all plants die in the first day of Summer. It's like a voodoo curse that all farmers know. First day of Summer - done and pack it up! No seeds - nothing! Kinda like getting a wedgie on the first day of gym class.

[Bloodhawk]

GOObER a écrit :

⎛⎝#1 Catgirl⎠⎞ a écrit :

The seeds all say "Harvest in [season]" on them when you buy them. That implies that you can't harvest them in any other season. What else could that possibly mean?

Well hey shoot me for not reading the harvest times. And I forgot the #1 rule in life that all plants die in the first day of Summer. It's like a voodoo curse that all farmers know. First day of Summer - done and pack it up!

You can't blame the product if you didn't read the instructions.

This is a farming game, not a farming simulator. It's asinine to expect it to adhere to reality.

[Altimely]

GOObER a écrit :

¯\(°_o)/¯ a écrit :

The tutorial was that things repeat. It's the same for every season. I remember planting crops in HM near the end of spring and saying "what the hell? really? so stupid." And then I never planted crops late in the season again.

Just recently I forgot to harvest all of my hay before winter. It's a no-brainer thing, I knew it would happen. It slipped my mind and now I'm paying for it- but it hasn't ruined the experience or set me back- the game gives multiple avenues for income.

I'm just saying it's a life simulator. You screw up in life, you pay for it, you learn, you move on. That's all.

Life simulator? All crops die on the first day of Summer. OK got it. My bad :/

Yea, and if I make my tools out of different metals, they become more powerful- almost magic!

Also, I can find purple stars that give me more stamina so I can work longer.

It's a life simulator in that you're going to learn a few things the hard way. Some of that is game mechanics- it sucks a little but it doesn't ruin the game.

[GOobERdOod]

⎛⎝#1 Catgirl⎠⎞ a écrit :

GOObER a écrit :

Well hey shoot me for not reading the harvest times. And I forgot the #1 rule in life that all plants die in the first day of Summer. It's like a voodoo curse that all farmers know. First day of Summer - done and pack it up!

You can't blame the product if you didn't read the instructions.

This is a farming game, not a farming simulator. It's asinine to expect it to adhere to reality.

I agree Catgirl :) You got me good. "Farming game" - That I learned the hard way.

[GOobERdOod]

Thanks for the help and to sum up ...

First day of Summer = All plants die (like in real life)
First day of Gym class = I get my first wedgie ( like in real life)

[Paul Caruso]

GOObER a écrit :

⎛⎝#1 Catgirl⎠⎞ a écrit :

The seeds all say "Harvest in [season]" on them when you buy them. That implies that you can't harvest them in any other season. What else could that possibly mean?

Well hey shoot me for not reading the harvest times. And I forgot the #1 rule in life that all plants die in the first day of Summer. It's like a voodoo curse that all farmers know. First day of Summer - done and pack it up! No seeds - nothing! Kinda like getting a wedgie on the first day of gym class.

It's not the first day of Summer, it's the first day of any season. When a season ends, all plants that are planted in that season die. The exceptions to this are plants that continually grow across seasons. All of your Summer plants will die in Fall, the Fall plants will die in Winter, etc.

[Daniel]

On my side, when i view when the season change all the plant stop growing, i have begin a test to view if the plant are dead are if they are only in the sleeping time (such as more plant in the reality), so i have build 4 field, one for each season, and the plant they have no time to grow, i let's the plant in the field until the next season to view if they wake up in the next season..., for now i don't know

[NotThatHarkness]

⎛⎝#1 Catgirl⎠⎞ a écrit :

The seeds all say "Harvest in [season]" on them when you buy them. That implies that you can't harvest them in any other season. What else could that possibly mean?

No they don't. They say "plant in [season]". They say nothing about when you can or cannot harvest them.

[Ruuk]

Welcome to Harvest Moon logic. It borks you the first time through, but you get acclimated to the strategy required over time. It's really not as bad as it seems once you start accounting for it and planning your crop times accordingly.

And yes, there is enough time in the day to check your TV twice. Once in the morning, once at bed. The game pauses whenever you're in any sort of menu, so time isn't passing when you're checking your television.

[JErosion]

GOObER a écrit :

Perpetual_Retrospect a écrit :

Yeah but only in extremely rare situations/certain crops do they gather their own seed.

Generally (at least with modern farming/in the Round-up Ready style genetic modification era) seed is purchased from dealers each year.

Yea the modern Monsanto (round-up) way is a frankenstein nightmare in reality. The way Monsanto is forcing farmers to buy their new seeds is so awful. It's not how I base my view of farming. Old farmers who respected nature gathered their own seeds so they could re-plant - they were not steared into buying seeds from a Monsanto type Corporation.

Just wait for the eventual Blight apocalypse with mother nature zero's in on those fancy Weedkiller resistant crops which happen to all be genetic clones.

[GOobERdOod]

Ruuk a écrit :

Welcome to Harvest Moon logic. It borks you the first time through, but you get acclimated to the strategy required over time. It's really not as bad as it seems once you start accounting for it and planning your crop times accordingly.

That's the most legit thing said yet.

It is said that this game was created by one guy - programmed by just one guy. This is an amazing thing right? A good thing - we are amazed when this happens. This is good because it shows just how much one guy can accomplish - but it's also bad because it illustrates how much only one guy can accomplish.

The workings of something great is here. Much can be found to enjoy but it could have been so much better and far less frustrating. The way it plays now is not like something you would expect. It plays like something only the designer would expect.

[Ruuk]

No, it played pretty much exactly how I expected it to play. When I said Welcome to Harvest Moon logic I don't say it with any sort of malice. Anyone who spent as much time in that game as I did back on the SNES feels right at home here. The number of genuinely frustrating, horrible things he removed compared to the original Harvest Moon is staggering.

For example:

- Animals didn't let themselves in and out of their barn. You had to do this manually for each one.
- There was no animal diversity. You had chickens, sheep and cows.
- There was no such thing as a sprinkler system.
- The game blatantly ended on year 3, with no unlimited play mode.
- The game was grid-based, and the controls generally felt clunky at best.
- There was no backpack, and no inventory. You could only hold one item at a time.
- There were no chests. You could only hold one object above your head, and either eat it or sell it.
- There was no RPG element. You started as strong or as weak as you ended.

The crop rotation strategy may feel a bit clunky to newcomers, but once you've acclimated to it it's just part of the general strategy for the game. So much more was removed, altered, or improved that the crops dying during the swap of the season really isn't even a problem worth getting in a tuss over compared to some of the objectively horrible things that ConcernedApe took out to improve the experience.

[Tahroo]

All of the seeds say they only work in <season> on them. Now that it's summer in your game.. plant Corn. It can be harvested in Summer and Fall and stays after first harvest.

JErosion a écrit :

Just wait for the eventual Blight apocalypse with mother nature zero's in on those fancy Weedkiller resistant crops which happen to all be genetic clones.

Like is happening to bananas right now.... again. Get some while you can before the clone needs changed.