Bubbles In Water?

[Melody]

Hey soo, Ive been doing alot of fishing but I see something that I haven't seen before.
On the dock at the beach next to the fish guy's house, there are bubbles in the water. Ive been fishing there for a couple minutes but havent gotten anything special.
Do these do anything or?

[Hammertone]

As far as i know, that bubbles raise your bite rate, to put it simple, it reduce your wait time for each cast. Not so sure about other effects

[Melody]

Originally posted by Hammertone:

As far as i know, that bubbles raise your bite rate, to put it simple, it reduce your wait time for each cast. Not so sure about other effects

Ah okay. And what does "Perfect!" do? Is it just a fun thing to get or does it like, catch you a better fish or give you a higher quality fish?

[Hammertone]

Originally posted by IAmClarity:

Originally posted by Hammertone:

As far as i know, that bubbles raise your bite rate, to put it simple, it reduce your wait time for each cast. Not so sure about other effects

Ah okay. And what does "Perfect!" do? Is it just a fun thing to get or does it like, catch you a better fish or give you a higher quality fish?

I do wonder the same things. I'll just keep trying the "perfect" thingy for now, since there isn't any downside it seems

[Saluki]

Bubbles dont increase your bite rate, they increase the possibility that you will get a chest.

As for the perfect thing, there is some debate. Some say it influences whether you get a "gold" fish or not, but I disagree through experience. I have caught plenty of perfect fish with a max cast while also capturing a chest and there is no reliable outcome benefit. Some chests are good others have one piece of bait. Sometimes the fish is silver. My theory is that it increases how much experience you get for catching that fish.

[Hammertone]

Originally posted by Saluki:

Bubbles dont increase your bite rate, they increase the possibility that you will get a chest.

As for the perfect thing, there is some debate. Some say it influences whether you get a "gold" fish or not, but I disagree through experience. I have caught plenty of perfect fish with a max cast while also capturing a chest and there is no reliable outcome benefit. Some chests are good others have one piece of bait. Sometimes the fish is silver. My theory is that it increases how much experience you get for catching that fish.

That's strange, this guide says it reduce the time
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=634772017

While this guide says they both reduce the wait and increase the quality
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=633249179

Personally speaking, i feel that bubbles reduce the wait, but not raise the quality

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Saluki:

Bubbles dont increase your bite rate, they increase the possibility that you will get a chest.

Bubbles absolutely increase bite rate; at least they do for me.

I also suspect they slightly increase treasure chance, but I'm really not sure about that.

Originally posted by Saluki:

As for the perfect thing, there is some debate.

This I'm less sure about as well, and have seen various things said; "some debate" seems a good way to put it.

My personal guess is that it does influence quality, though.

The further you are from shore, the better the quality (see Prime Locations[stardewvalleywiki.com]), and the stronger your cast, the further from shore you get (usually; where applicable).

I'm not sure if getting a "Perfect" directly or indirectly affects quality, though. Does it only indirectly affect quality by making your cast be further from shore, or does the fact of getting a "Perfect" inherently give a quality bonus regardless of distance?

Considering that fishing's exact mechanics are still unknown (as far as I know) and that there are many variables at play, I'm tempted to believe that cast strength has its own specific and independent effect on fishing success.

My theory is that the further you cast, the higher the likelihood of hooking 1) bigger fish (which I've heard theorized as affecting quality) and 2) better fish (i.e. raises the chance, for your present location, to get a tuna instead of an anchovy, or a largemouth bass instead of a carp, etc.). As a natural extension of this, getting a "Perfect" cast would maximize this bonus.

I don't think what you catch has any bearing on what kind of treasure you get, though; I've had crappy teasures from legendaries and great treasures from carp. This is just a guess, though. I suspect what kind of treasure you get is only affected by your luck at the time (and maybe location).

[hairyharryz]

Originally posted by IAmClarity:

Originally posted by Hammertone:

As far as i know, that bubbles raise your bite rate, to put it simple, it reduce your wait time for each cast. Not so sure about other effects

Ah okay. And what does "Perfect!" do? Is it just a fun thing to get or does it like, catch you a better fish or give you a higher quality fish?

From my experience, perfect hooks might net you bonus XP. I tried a day with perfect fishing, and a day without and I got from level 1 to 3 using perfect fishing whereas I only go from 1 to 2 using only random fishing techniques (this was done using 2 new games, and making sure the same number of fish was caught on both attempts).

[Saluki]

I do a LOT of fishing. I thinks its really easy and I can make 6-8k a day from it no problem.

I was about to list my observations on fishing but I realized that my opinions may be skewed.

While I fish regardless of the "luck" of the day, I am level 10 and Id say 75% of my casts are max. And for almost all the regular fish who put up no struggle I get a perfect. The exceptions are the times Im TOO ready to move the bar up in anticipation of a tough fish and then the damn carp just sits on the bottom, but even then its rare I catch anything other than a gold fish.

So instead I will use all the time I spend fishing to see what happens when casts are not max and fish are perfect or not, I will also not fish from any know "good" spots.

Im curious now.

[hairyharryz]

Originally posted by Saluki:

I do a LOT of fishing. I thinks its really easy and I can make 6-8k a day from it no problem.

I was about to list my observations on fishing but I realized that my opinions may be skewed.

While I fish regardless of the "luck" of the day, I am level 10 and Id say 75% of my casts are max. And for almost all the regular fish who put up no struggle I get a perfect. The exceptions are the times Im TOO ready to move the bar up in anticipation of a tough fish and then the damn carp just sits on the bottom, but even then its rare I catch anything other than a gold fish.

So instead I will use all the time I spend fishing to see what happens when casts are not max and fish are perfect or not, I will also not fish from any know "good" spots.

Im curious now.

Max casts lets you get gold quality fish provided you cast into a square that is far away from any shores. The magic spots people keep talking about are actually just spots where if you cast from shore, you will land in squares that are not bordered closely by any land mass (e.g. that same spot can't be reached by casting from another point near a beach or river/lake bank unless you also cast at max range from the other spot).

So you can actually get gold quality fish anywhere you cast as long as you are casting close to or at max range and landing in a square that is isolated from any other castable land mass.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by hairyharryz:

From my experience, perfect hooks might net you bonus XP. I tried a day with perfect fishing, and a day without and I got from level 1 to 3 using perfect fishing whereas I only go from 1 to 2 using only random fishing techniques (this was done using 2 new games, and making sure the same number of fish was caught on both attempts).

That's very interesting, and it makes sense. I can certainly buy that.

Originally posted by hairyharryz:

[stuff]

And you've just made me realize that we were talking about the "Perfect" of not letting fish out of the green bar, not the "Perfect" of a max cast. Now I feel like an idiot...

[Mackenzie]

Originally posted by Saluki:

Bubbles dont increase your bite rate, they increase the possibility that you will get a chest.

That's the only reason I go for bubbles is because of how greatly it increases bite rate. It's quite noticeable.

[Saluki]

Originally posted by hairyharryz:

Originally posted by Saluki:

I do a LOT of fishing. I thinks its really easy and I can make 6-8k a day from it no problem.

I was about to list my observations on fishing but I realized that my opinions may be skewed.

While I fish regardless of the "luck" of the day, I am level 10 and Id say 75% of my casts are max. And for almost all the regular fish who put up no struggle I get a perfect. The exceptions are the times Im TOO ready to move the bar up in anticipation of a tough fish and then the damn carp just sits on the bottom, but even then its rare I catch anything other than a gold fish.

So instead I will use all the time I spend fishing to see what happens when casts are not max and fish are perfect or not, I will also not fish from any know "good" spots.

Im curious now.

Max casts lets you get gold quality fish provided you cast into a square that is far away from any shores. The magic spots people keep talking about are actually just spots where if you cast from shore, you will land in squares that are not bordered closely by any land mass (e.g. that same spot can't be reached by casting from another point near a beach or river/lake bank unless you also cast at max range from the other spot).

So you can actually get gold quality fish anywhere you cast as long as you are casting close to or at max range and landing in a square that is isolated from any other castable land mass.

Yes, my early results are showing that. I just threw 15 lines and caught 4 small mouth bass and 11 algae throwing the line as short as I could all four of the smb that I caught were perfect but they were all of silver quality.

I then switched to a max throw and after 15 throws got exactly 4 smb and 11 algae again.
This time I got a perfect on the first fish and not on the other three and they were all gold.

My conclusion (based on seriously flimsy recorded data, but hours of fishing) is that perfects do not influence the quality of the fish.

[Melody]

Woah guys, chill. All I asked was what they do, there's no need to argue with one another. o.O

[Saluki]

Im not trying to argue with anyone, hope that not how it comes off. I would just like to know for sure about some things and I welcome everyone to post their experiences because there is definitely still some mystery about fishing.

[hairyharryz]

Originally posted by IAmClarity:

Woah guys, chill. All I asked was what they do, there's no need to argue with one another. o.O

I think everyone's just confirming each other's findings if they have time, I call this a wonderful debate.