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Racc00n May 28, 2023 @ 4:23am
JOJA OR NOT?
I dont want to pay the Joja contract, but if I dont pay it and rebuild the Center, I would be able to go to the spa and use the things that Joja wanted to give me? TuT
Originally posted by Maya-Neko:
The routes are pretty much identical in most parts (you just pay for the upgrades at Joja instead of giving objects in). The only gameplay difference is, that restoring the CC will cause a few NPCs changing their schedule to go to the CC every now and then (Clint for example will go to the boiler room on fridays), but you will still get all unlocks from it.

And the Spa isn't part of the CC anyway, as it will simply unlock at 3rd summer, no matter which route you're taking.

Also keep in mind, that you can fullfill a few CC-objectives to get the rewards and you can then still switch over to Joja later on (The vault room for example is definitely better to get through CC and the boiler room can be done faster in the CC depending on your playstyle)
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Maya-Neko May 28, 2023 @ 4:54am 
The routes are pretty much identical in most parts (you just pay for the upgrades at Joja instead of giving objects in). The only gameplay difference is, that restoring the CC will cause a few NPCs changing their schedule to go to the CC every now and then (Clint for example will go to the boiler room on fridays), but you will still get all unlocks from it.

And the Spa isn't part of the CC anyway, as it will simply unlock at 3rd summer, no matter which route you're taking.

Also keep in mind, that you can fullfill a few CC-objectives to get the rewards and you can then still switch over to Joja later on (The vault room for example is definitely better to get through CC and the boiler room can be done faster in the CC depending on your playstyle)
Racc00n May 28, 2023 @ 11:19am 
Thank you! ^^
Playzr 🐵 May 28, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
But Jojamart is the evil ending.
To Joja or not to Joja, that is the question.
EchoTango May 28, 2023 @ 5:41pm 
Joja is fairly easier, as you pay your way into it. Even if Joja is evil, The Route of Evil may be your way, as of many people. 'Evil can be easy,', Morris says. 'The route of good is a traffic circle.' Elon Musk says. I don't know whether to do Joja yet, but I have heard it is the easiest route possible and would love for you to try it and try the 'building the community center' on a different save file.

The community center is a bumpy hill, but it may be worth it as when you are finished you can find everyone you need in it once you are done with it. Community Center may be the path for you if you like slow and forgettable routes.I still have not finished the Community Center in the save file I have played the most.

I will not tell you what to do, but I may give you advice when you need it. It is your way of life and your choice, and also do not let anyone boss you around. Do what your heart screams at you to do.:espresso:Have peace in the world.
Ensign May 29, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
Off topic but i gotta chime in, joja isnt evil.

Mabey its been patched since i last played. When the game came out i played the joja route. They arent evil.

With my money i got to pay joja to hire workers to repair bridges, the mine carts, everything in town.

The residents of the valley were perfectly content to leave everything old and dilapidated. The mayor sighed that no one cares about the Community center but he certainly could have organized a day to do something about it. Instead of leaving it to us and some magical fairies.

Joja fixed everything, revitalized the town, stimulated the local economy, created jobs, gave the lower income and single mothers of the valley a cheaper place to shop, and would put the town on the map as residents from local villages and towns come to shop, mabey even visiting the local and dying clinic who hasnt enough clients to keep the doors open not to mention the bar.

Working as some desk slave for joja sure is a terrible soul crushing dead end job but lots of places like that exist and that doesnt make those companies evil. Im sure working as a maintenance man in sewers is awful but someone has to do it. Doesnt make city services evil.
NBOX21 May 30, 2023 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Рlαγζr 🐵:
But Jojamart is the evil ending.
Not like the CC route is that much better, though. By taking the CC route, you eventually drive JojaMart out of business leaving Pierre with a complete monopoly on the market in town meaning everyone has to buy their products from him. At least taking the Joja route leaves a direct competitor in the market so Pierre can't just be as greedy as he wants.
nanami May 30, 2023 @ 1:21am 
if you like raising animals the Jojamart route lets you buy autopetters other wise they are a very rare drop i forget if its skullcave or the volcano
Playzr 🐵 May 30, 2023 @ 2:49am 
Pierre's prices stay the same at least. There's a mod I used on my last playthrough so Marnie sells auto petters, they were very expensive.
Maya-Neko May 30, 2023 @ 3:01am 
It definitely is worth taking the Joja route in the Stardew Valley Expanded mod, as it is way more fleshed out there beyond just buying upgrades^^
ChrillBill May 30, 2023 @ 9:04am 
Try it at least once, and I would also like to second what Maya-Neko is mentioning. The Joja route is much better with the stardew valley expanded mod in use. Aside from the tired skelly sitting behind the desk in the intro there is actually nothing inherently evil about Joja. It is essentially a business that is trying to expand itself. They are in a way trying to drive Pierre out of business but I wouldn't call that evil. That is how it usually works when you want to get rid of the competition. It is greedy and morally dubious I guess but Pierre is really not that much better. He is no better than Morris when it comes to greedyness.

But from the farmers perspective, they are leaving Joja and the modern life behind to go live on a farm and reconnect with nature. I guess this is why many view Joja as evil because in a way they become an intruder representing something you left behind in the opening of the game. But it's not like Joja are destroying valley. The farmer still get to experience a completely different life and very much connect with nature. :brownchicken:

So at the end of the day, it really boils down to which route you prefer. Joja route is a bit faster and obviously meant for players that are familiar with the game. It is less goal oriented compared to the Community Center route. :epihappy:
iLovePie_42 May 30, 2023 @ 9:48am 
Not.
Don't help evil corporates force push joja colas, merchandise and other woke stuff down your throat.
Fight evil corporates.
Don't cut them any slack.
Restore that community center and prove them they aren't untouchable.
Watch them sweat blood.
Dewit May 30, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by AfRu:
Not.
Don't help evil corporates force push joja colas, merchandise and other woke stuff down your throat.
Fight evil corporates.
Don't cut them any slack.
Restore that community center and prove them they aren't untouchable.
Watch them sweat blood.


so help out Jojamart? coo. already on it, boss.
Sunny May 30, 2023 @ 11:59am 
when did the edgelords swap over to supporting corporations as their rebellion? lol. I feel old.

yaaaaay walmart I guess.
Last edited by Sunny; May 30, 2023 @ 11:59am
Emperor Zero May 31, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Рlαγζr 🐵:
But Jojamart is the evil ending.
how is it the evil ending? like seriously all i see is hate for jojamart but they haven't really done much at all apart from the drill thing, they improved the towns economy and built things that help the town and player, all pierres and lewis do is waste the towns resources and time, jojamart is just a neutral indifferent company thats goal is to do what a company is meant to do, make money, thats the aim of most players as well so i don't see why one is good but the other bad. maybe im missing some thing but all the hate i see for jojamart just seems like "corpo always bad, local buisness always good"
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