Is buying iron ore & transmuting to gold bars really the better choice...

[Deffy]

Knowing that you need twice the amount of coal to smelt all the iron compared to just smelting gold ore instead. I was hoping for someone better at math than I am to answer this question. I'm about to buy a huge amount of ore to mass produce solar panels and I'm looking for the most cost efficient way to do it.

[Dimensional Traveler]

To smelt 1 gold bar requires 5 gold ore and 1 coal.
5 gold ore costs 5x750=3750
1 coal costs 250
total = 4000

To smelt 1 iron bar requires 5 iron ore and 1 coal
5 iron ore costs 5x250=1250
1 coal costs 250
total = 1500
1500 x 2 = 3000

[Problem Solver]

Most effective way would be to mine it yourself if you have gotten that far. You can get a lot of gold ore in a days time.

[Deffy]

引用自 Dimensional Traveler：

To smelt 1 gold bar requires 5 gold ore and 1 coal.
5 gold ore costs 5x750=3750
1 coal costs 250
total = 4000

To smelt 1 iron bar requires 5 iron ore and 1 coal
5 iron ore costs 5x250=1250
1 coal costs 250
total = 1500
1500 x 2 = 3000

Very clear an concise, thank you! :)

[Deffy]

引用自 Problem Solver：

Most effective way would be to mine it yourself if you have gotten that far. You can get a lot of gold ore in a days time.

Usually past year one I get extremely lazy when it comes to mining basic ore. I'll grant that with the monster musk farming coal is pretty quick but I havn't had that quest show up yet in my savefile so that's not an option.

[red255]

I mean if you do skull cavern mines with explosives you tend to get a decent amount of gold ore that way.

what stage are we at in the game?

to transmute iron ore into gold we need like mining 8, and to get mining 8 we spend enough time in the mines to get down to floor 80 and mine actual gold.

yes if we are at a stage where we are just lazily buying gold fine. I always just take the +1 ore per node at level 5 and don't have issues getting ore. if I wanted to mine faster I'd use bombs.

[red255]

引用自 Dimensional Traveler：

To smelt 1 gold bar requires 5 gold ore and 1 coal.
5 gold ore costs 5x750=3750
1 coal costs 250
total = 4000

To smelt 1 iron bar requires 5 iron ore and 1 coal
5 iron ore costs 5x250=1250
1 coal costs 250
total = 1500
1500 x 2 = 3000

don't ore rates go up in year 2?

[Dimensional Traveler]

引用自 red255：

引用自 Dimensional Traveler：

To smelt 1 gold bar requires 5 gold ore and 1 coal.
5 gold ore costs 5x750=3750
1 coal costs 250
total = 4000

To smelt 1 iron bar requires 5 iron ore and 1 coal
5 iron ore costs 5x250=1250
1 coal costs 250
total = 1500
1500 x 2 = 3000

don't ore rates go up in year 2?

I generated that some years ago but I'm pretty sure those are the year 2 prices.

[happy]

I am going to have to toss my preferred method out there. I mean, Clint has gotta make a living, but those prices are too high. I am assuming since you can craft solar panels, that you have access to ginger island. It is very easy to get the first 100 coconuts to get into the Qi room. After finishing 1 Qi quest, you can buy a "Deconstructor" and a "Hopper" or Hopper recipe. Fill the hopper with "Treasure hunter" tackle that you buy from Willy for 750g. Setup the deconstructor in front of the hopper. These will produce 2 gold bars for 750g every 30 mins. The "Spinner" tackle does the same for iron bars, at 500g for 2 bars. Much faster and cheaper than the forge.

I am also going to go ahead and assume you are making crystalariums with all those batteries. Down the line, after you make piles of jades with crystalariums and have traded them to the Desert Trader for stacks of staircases, load up the hopper with a couple dozen staircases. This will provide nearly endless amounts of stone, to make even more crystalariums.

[Deffy]

引用自 happy：

I am going to have to toss my preferred method out there. I mean, Clint has gotta make a living, but those prices are too high. I am assuming since you can craft solar panels, that you have access to ginger island. It is very easy to get the first 100 coconuts to get into the Qi room. After finishing 1 Qi quest, you can buy a "Deconstructor" and a "Hopper" or Hopper recipe. Fill the hopper with "Treasure hunter" tackle that you buy from Willy for 750g. Setup the deconstructor in front of the hopper. These will produce 2 gold bars for 750g every 30 mins. The "Spinner" tackle does the same for iron bars, at 500g for 2 bars. Much faster and cheaper than the forge.

I am also going to go ahead and assume you are making crystalariums with all those batteries. Down the line, after you make piles of jades with crystalariums and have traded them to the Desert Trader for stacks of staircases, load up the hopper with a couple dozen staircases. This will provide nearly endless amounts of stone, to make even more crystalariums.

Yeah that's the plan in the long run. I had heard about the deconstructor method before and it when right over my head for some reason. Is very clever and I want to thank you for refreshing my memory. This is definitely the best endgame option no question about it. However, the issue about that is getting the actual deconstructor takes some time and you'd really want multiple of them to make it time efficient. Clint is expensive but at the very least more reliable, available earlier and when you have an gigantic ancien fruit brewery already getting started at the beginning of year 2, that's not much of a problem to use him and get those solar panels earlier than otherwise. Your method is definitely worth considering through if you can be a little patient, which I can't. I had a bad summer year one in therms of thunderstorm luck (Can't afford more than 20 or so crystalariums for year one, which isn't all that bad to be honest) but I do want those batteries ASAP.

I was probably missleading. I'm currently entering winter year one so I don't have access to ginger island yet but I've reached perfection before and in that playthrough I litterally bought all the gold directly from Clint, and I certainly didn't want to make the same mistake again. But that said, the greenhouse is already full of ancien fruits (used the seed maker + blueberries method and got lucky with some ancien seeds at the very beginning of spring). So it's just a matter of time before I never have to worry about money again. I like to think that by summer year 2 (which is when I plan to finish the community center) I'll be able to affort the iron necessary to mass produce my solar panel, once I have the recipe, of course.

Thanks for the tip through. The staircases into deconstructor thing is amazing and I wouldn't have thought about that one on my own. Basically FREE stone!

[red255]

Clints prices are fine, for Coal, I need coal, and methods of making it early on are time consuming that buying 100 coal for some gold is worthwhile. (whereas farming it is going to floor 60 in the mines and hunting dust sprites I guess.

clints prices for ore, no. I'd go into the sewers and respec for mining ore. and just spend a day mining ore. early on, even year 1 prices. Once i got a greenhouse full of ancient fruit and a shed full of kegs making me 260,000 every week We can probably buy whatever we want from whomever.

[happy]

引用自 Deffy：

................. Basically FREE stone!

Ah I see. Planning waaaaay ahead. I like it.

Yeah the deconstructor is sweet, i found out about it from this forum. After the community center is finished its actually fairly quick to get it if focused on the island. Its also good for hardwood, the "cork bobber" gives hardwood x5, which can be chipped so its basically free wood too. It is very fast, all the items are only 30 ingame minutes, even for the 2 gold bars. Oh, and also you can use the fishing tackle down until its almost gone, drop it in and still get the mats back. BONUS!!