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ChrillBill possui Stardew Valley

31/ago./2022 às 14:03

Escrito originalmente por PhyreMatrix:
Yeah, I just came upon Caroline's remark in the game about her natural hair color being light chestnut brown. Abigail's just the rebel chic. Just because a girl wants to hang out in cemeteries in her spare time and dye her hair purple doesn't mean she's someone else's kid. She's just a normal teenage girl. Doesn't mean Caroline did anything untoward.

Except there is this quote from Abigail herself: “I can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...”

That is a small hint that her natural hair color most likely changed with time (which is very possible, by the way) and she is now growing purple hair. Depending on the pigment/shade and the amount of each color, mixing green (Carolines hair color) and purple (The Wizards hair color) can also result in a brown shade which is basically what Abigail started out with. You know, this whole idea of Abigail being the Wizards daughter is actually based on stuff that holds up really well. Edit: Typo!

Última edição por ChrillBill; 31/ago./2022 às 14:42

#31

Nakos

31/ago./2022 às 16:06

Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
Except there is this quote from Abigail herself: “I can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...”

Hair color does tend to get darker with age. Going from "light chestnut" to "purple" seems a bit odd to me, but this is apparently a world where colors like purple and green can be seen as natural shades, so I suppose it's fine.

Escrito originalmente por PhyreMatrix:
Couldn't Caroline have had Abigail before marrying Pierre? Was that not a possibility for anyone?

Caroline herself says "When we first moved here, I took a while to settle down... I wasn't ready for the domestic life."

And also: "Abigail was born about a year after we moved to Pelican Town."

So Caroline got pregnant shortly after moving in to Stardew Valley.

Última edição por Nakos; 31/ago./2022 às 16:07

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Queen Droxxanna possui Stardew Valley

31/ago./2022 às 17:35

there is a cut scene where Caroline goes to visit the Wizard late at night., then there is a discussion with Magnus, Caroline and Pierre about Abigail's future and her training in magic.

It is then the we learn that Caroline and Pierre had split up for a while, and that's when she dated Magnus. Then Caroline and Pierre got back together.
Pierre is not a bad guy. Caroline kept her relationship with Magnus SECRET from him for years. He still considers Abigail as his daughter and later forgives Caroline for keeping the secret.
He's not perfect , but he's not all bad either, so why pick on him.
It is NEVER said that Magnus is Abigail's father, and Abigail talks about dying her hair , so it may not have always been blue/purple.
So why pick on Pierre???

#33

Crim

1/set./2022 às 1:36

Escrito originalmente por soaringfreedom:
there is a cut scene where Caroline goes to visit the Wizard late at night., then there is a discussion with Magnus, Caroline and Pierre about Abigail's future and her training in magic.

It is then the we learn that Caroline and Pierre had split up for a while, and that's when she dated Magnus. Then Caroline and Pierre got back together.
Pierre is not a bad guy. Caroline kept her relationship with Magnus SECRET from him for years. He still considers Abigail as his daughter and later forgives Caroline for keeping the secret.
He's not perfect , but he's not all bad either, so why pick on him.
It is NEVER said that Magnus is Abigail's father, and Abigail talks about dying her hair , so it may not have always been blue/purple.
So why pick on Pierre???

Who the hell is Magnus?

#34

NBOX21

1/set./2022 às 1:58

Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
Who the hell is Magnus?

Magnus Rasmodius is the Wizard's full name.

#35

Crim

1/set./2022 às 2:10

If we are just going by hair color

Why not Jas?

#36

Raraldor

1/set./2022 às 4:00

Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
If we are just going by hair color

Why not Jas?

we don't know who Jas' father is, and even if we make the assumption it's Lewis we don't know his hair color either.

Difference being we know who Abigail's father supposedly is, and neither of them have purple hair. Meanwhile the wizard does and it's established that he may have a child living in Stardew Valley

Última edição por Raraldor; 1/set./2022 às 4:02

#37

HansBerg

1/set./2022 às 4:07

Escrito originalmente por soaringfreedom:
there is a cut scene where Caroline goes to visit the Wizard late at night., then there is a discussion with Magnus, Caroline and Pierre about Abigail's future and her training in magic.

It is then the we learn that Caroline and Pierre had split up for a while, and that's when she dated Magnus. Then Caroline and Pierre got back together.
Pierre is not a bad guy. Caroline kept her relationship with Magnus SECRET from him for years. He still considers Abigail as his daughter and later forgives Caroline for keeping the secret.
He's not perfect , but he's not all bad either, so why pick on him.
It is NEVER said that Magnus is Abigail's father, and Abigail talks about dying her hair , so it may not have always been blue/purple.
So why pick on Pierre???

Are you sure that isn't all from a mod? I've never seen such a cutscene, and this is the first reference that I've seen to it. Seems like the sort of thing that would have been mentioned elsewhere.

#38

ChrillBill possui Stardew Valley

1/set./2022 às 4:25

Escrito originalmente por Nakos:
Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
Except there is this quote from Abigail herself: “I can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...”

Hair color does tend to get darker with age. Going from "light chestnut" to "purple" seems a bit odd to me, but this is apparently a world where colors like purple and green can be seen as natural shades, so I suppose it's fine.

Not necessarily. It can go the opposite way as well and like I said it is not unusual at all that hair color changes with age. It is usually genetic but there are other factors too that can change a natural hair color permanently like cancer for example. There are only two logical conclusions to why Abigails hair color has stayed purple after she dyed it.

1) She might have genetics for purple hair color - and it doesn't prove the Wizard is her father. There could be other relatives far back in the family tree that had purple hair color.

2) The dye she used was imbued with magic and since magic is part of world in game that makes it kinda logical.

Escrito originalmente por soaringfreedom:
there is a cut scene where Caroline goes to visit the Wizard late at night., then there is a discussion with Magnus, Caroline and Pierre about Abigail's future and her training in magic.

It is then the we learn that Caroline and Pierre had split up for a while, and that's when she dated Magnus. Then Caroline and Pierre got back together.
Pierre is not a bad guy. Caroline kept her relationship with Magnus SECRET from him for years. He still considers Abigail as his daughter and later forgives Caroline for keeping the secret. It is NEVER said that Magnus is Abigail's father,

What you are talking about here is a specific event from the Stardew Valley Expanded mod and you are also wrong. Caroline openly admits in that event that Abigail is the Wizards daughter, and not Pierres. And there is every reason to pick on Pierre since he was the one who started cheating on Caroline, which in turn made her cheat back with the Wizard which resulted in Abigail. But like I said, this is modded stuff, and not part of the vanilla game. You might want to do your homework a bit better

#39

Crim

1/set./2022 às 5:14

Escrito originalmente por Raraldor:
Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
If we are just going by hair color

Why not Jas?
we don't know who Jas' father is, and even if we make the assumption it's Lewis we don't know his hair color either.

Difference being we know who Abigail's father supposedly is, and neither of them have purple hair. Meanwhile the wizard does and it's established that he may have a child living in Stardew Valley

...?

Why not Jas as the Wizard's child...

#40

Raraldor

1/set./2022 às 5:20

Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
Escrito originalmente por Raraldor:
we don't know who Jas' father is, and even if we make the assumption it's Lewis we don't know his hair color either.

Difference being we know who Abigail's father supposedly is, and neither of them have purple hair. Meanwhile the wizard does and it's established that he may have a child living in Stardew Valley
...?

Why not Jas as the Wizard's child...

Purple is commonly used as a color in black hair for shading purposes, and the same thing can be seen in Shane's hair. Meanwhile Abigail's hair is undeniably purple in both her sprite and dialogue art

Última edição por Raraldor; 1/set./2022 às 5:23

#41

ChrillBill possui Stardew Valley

1/set./2022 às 5:52

Escrito originalmente por Raraldor:
Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
...?

Why not Jas as the Wizard's child...
Purple is commonly used as a color in black hair for shading purposes, and the same thing can be seen in Shane's hair. Meanwhile Abigail's hair is undeniably purple in both her sprite and dialogue art

They are all on the purple spectrum. It's just different shades of purple. If you compare all four you can see a clear difference between Wizard + Abigail and Shane + Jas. For some people it can be really hard to tell the difference though.

#42

Raraldor

1/set./2022 às 5:55

Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
Escrito originalmente por Raraldor:
Purple is commonly used as a color in black hair for shading purposes, and the same thing can be seen in Shane's hair. Meanwhile Abigail's hair is undeniably purple in both her sprite and dialogue art
They are all on the purple spectrum. It's just different shades of purple. If you compare all four you can see a clear difference between Wizard + Abigail and Shane + Jas. For some people it can be really hard to tell the difference though.

I mean yeah, sure. Same thing can be said about Sebastian too. His hair is shaded with a purple color. But my point was that out of everyone you can point to, Abigail and the wizard are the only two who have objectively purple hair.
Besides, dialogue in the game points toward something odd happening with Abigail. Same can't be said for the other three.

#43

Nakos

1/set./2022 às 6:01

Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
Not necessarily. It can go the opposite way as well and like I said it is not unusual at all that hair color changes with age. It is usually genetic but there are other factors too that can change a natural hair color permanently like cancer for example. There are only two logical conclusions to why Abigails hair color has stayed purple after she dyed it.

Hmm, you think? I dunno, personally, I've only ever seen hair go from lighter shades to darker ones. Like for example my mother had white-blonde hair when she was a small child, but by the time she was in her teens, it was a chestnut color, and by the time I had been born and was old enough to pay attention to things like my parent's hair colors, it was so dark a brown as to be almost black.

Hair goes grey eventually, and may appear lighter because of that, but that's not quite the same kind of thing.

It calls to mind the Robert Frost poem:

Escrito originalmente por Robert Frost:
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
1) She might have genetics for purple hair color - and it doesn't prove the Wizard is her father. There could be other relatives far back in the family tree that had purple hair color.

Oh sure. I don't think there's any definitive proof here, but there is a fair amount of circumstantial evidence presented. And it's game, it's meant to entertain. And a scandalous story of a child born out of wedlock is exactly the kind of story I'd expect CA to include (as we've discussed before).

Escrito originalmente por ChrillBill:
2) The dye she used was imbued with magic and since magic is part of world in game that makes it kinda logical.

Sure, could be. But you have to admit, that's not quite as exciting as the Wizard secretly being her father because he had an illicit affair with her mother ;)

#44

Crim

1/set./2022 às 6:09

Escrito originalmente por Raraldor:
Escrito originalmente por Talamare:
...?

Why not Jas as the Wizard's child...
Purple is commonly used as a color in black hair for shading purposes, and the same thing can be seen in Shane's hair. Meanwhile Abigail's hair is undeniably purple in both her sprite and dialogue art

How absurd
We have people with pure Black hair such as Morris

Trying to deny Jas' hair isn't Purple as well. That's beyond absurd.

Actually, Let's take a moment...
Purple is defined as basically any mixture of Blue and Red, so even a 99.9% Red 0.1% Blue color could be called Purple. Obviously, that's absurd as well...

So, there are 2 more relevant colors.
Magenta that is equal parts Blue and Red, which Shane's hair actually is.
Violet that is generally about 2 parts Blue and 1 part Red, which Wizard, Abigail, AND Jas is

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