Lack of diversity in game / only 2 persons of color

[Mohammad the Defiler]

First of all, love Stardew Valley and already more than 100 hours in but the lack of diversity is kind of oldschool, isn't it?
Concerned Ape had more than one time the chance to include more POC characters and the Ginger Island update would have been the perfect opportunity but he kind of ignored the fanbase.
Especially if you keep the BLM-movement in mind and all the bad stuff that has happened to black folks.

And c'mon, Demetrius wants a watermelon for his project?
Are you for real?Kind of feels like racism........

[Skonger Prime Jack-ie]

Kellogg"Cornflake"´´Lieberbaum eredeti hozzászólása:

First of all, love Stardew Valley and already more than 100 hours in but the lack of diversity is kind of oldschool, isn't it?
Concerned Ape had more than one time the chance to include more POC characters and the Ginger Island update would have been the perfect opportunity but he kind of ignored the fanbase.
Especially if you keep the BLM-movement in mind and all the bad stuff that has happened to black folks.

And c'mon, Demetrius wants a watermelon for his project?
Are you for real?Kind of feels like racism........

Private profile, begging for attention.

I rest my case, your honor.

[Amberbaum]

Bongwater Pizza eredeti hozzászólása:

Amberbaum eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes, it comes off as patronising and very narrominded. Very US-focused too, despite the US having all kinds of people living there.


I was gonna link these mods too, but you beat me to it. lol.

This is bait. Stop biting.

OP is most likely a white conservative.

Their post history doesn't come off as troll fodder...

[Petrock]

Forced diversity is the worst kind... just download mods. There are a lot of mods diversifying the game.

[Mohammad the Defiler]

Petrock eredeti hozzászólása:

Forced diversity is the worst kind... just download mods. There are a lot of mods diversifying the game.

There are also mods for naked NPCs.
Your point being exactly what?

[Marshall]

I try to assume people are acting/posting in good faith when possible, and would encourage folk not to interpret something as malicious when it could also be explained by ignorance, or just honest disagreement about an emotional subject. I apply a similar attitude to Stardew Valley itself.

I agree the game is -somewhat disappointingly- not very diverse, and I feel like Ginger Island is flawed/lackluster. But.. there's been plenty of discussion on that subject over the years that one can presumably find if they want to go looking for it. I think the game's TvTropes page actually mentions it too. So, I don't feel there's anything really new to say about it, just covering over old ground for the new players maybe. For that purpose, I'll just post one link about the Ginger Island update that I found interesting:

https://jojaqualityheadcanons.tumblr.com/post/646056190629052416


And here are a few relevant mods that I don't think have been posted yet:

Ginger Island NPC Overhaul: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9242

This would be an alternate to 'Emyn's Diverse Ginger Island', already linked in another post above. I'd say it's more of a 'Vanilla Plus' level of overhaul compared to Emyn's mod, with looks more like a total conversion. I'm using this one right now, as I figured it would be more easily compatible with my other mods that touch on Leo and Ginger Island. Seems bug free so far, but I only got to Ginger Island recently.

Emyn's Alternate Festivals: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9867

This changes several of the festivals, though you can turn them each on and off in the config. In particular, I'd praise it for making the Egg Hunt and Feast of the Winter Star festivals look less like a lazy copy of Easter and Christmas. I did find the Winter Star tilesheet changes a bit buggy though. I found line 408 in the content file had "Maps/winter_town" as it's "Target" when it should have been pointing at "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet". Making that change fixed most of the visual bugs there.

[Petrock]

Kellogg"Cornflake"´´Lieberbaum eredeti hozzászólása:

Petrock eredeti hozzászólása:

Forced diversity is the worst kind... just download mods. There are a lot of mods diversifying the game.

There are also mods for naked NPCs.
Your point being exactly what?

Not related at all lmao what hahaha.

[NBOX21]

Why are we questioning real world politics in a video game, especially one that's not even meant to be a realistic interpretation of our own world?
Video games are a form of art, not a tool to push an agenda. Also, books and movies should stop trying to do the same thing for that exact same reason.

[Bongwater Pizza]

NBOX21 eredeti hozzászólása:

Why are we questioning real world politics in a video game, especially one that's not even meant to be a realistic interpretation of our own world?
Video games are a form of art, not a tool to push an agenda. Also, books and movies should stop trying to do the same thing for that exact same reason.

Art is one of the most powerful tools to move people.

All art has an agenda.

I like to turn my brain off from time to time too.

But you're literally asking for art to stop being art.

[boocatButterbee]

It's a place where a white lady is married to a black fella and the smartest person in town is their daughter. Does that sound like racism to you? Nope, it doesn't to me, either. Nobody beats anybody up or hits them in the head when they aren't looking. The only degenerate in town, the village drunk, is a white guy.

SDV isn't realistic (thankfully!) No white people are being kicked in the head. No oriental ladies are being beaten into comas. It's a graffiti-clear, nice place. We play there because it is a sweet place and we can relax.

Go play GTA, Sims or Bum Simulator to live that urban b.s. scene. This is a fantasy-rural area with magic faeries, etc. Not a load of thugs there. 13%, mostly urban - NOT SDV.

Use your brain. (Why does Barry Obama live in Martha's Vineyard?)

[ChrillBill]

Kellogg"Cornflake"´´Lieberbaum eredeti hozzászólása:

Petrock eredeti hozzászólása:

Forced diversity is the worst kind... just download mods. There are a lot of mods diversifying the game.

There are also mods for naked NPCs.
Your point being exactly what?

How is all of the NSFW mods even relevant? You asked for more diversity and have been given a few tips on how to add more diversity to the game. No one said anything or even suggested anything about naked npcs. If you want people to take you seriously I would really suggest that you read the posts carefully on the first page.

I know some people don't like the idea of mods, which is fine, but that is what is available and the modding community is also the future of this game when it comes to new content and changes. ConcernedApe is not going to add more colored npcs because of this post, and he shouldn't have to either. Use what is at hand, or don't. It is your choice.

[NBOX21]

Bongwater Pizza eredeti hozzászólása:

Art is one of the most powerful tools to move people.

All art has an agenda.

I like to turn my brain off from time to time too.

But you're literally asking for art to stop being art.

If that was how you interpreted it as, I didn't mean it in exactly that way.
There's a difference between art having an agenda, and art trying to push an agenda if that makes sense. The latter feels like it's out of place, trying to force real world politics where they don't belong; whereas the former does not, making it feel natural within the story and its lore.

I mean, we have greedy corporations trying to ruin the lives of many for their own greed which is a common thing in the real world, but it happens in the game too as we can see with the Joja Corporation. At no point does that feel forced, rather it fits in perfectly with the overall themes the game is trying to communicate to the player, as an example.

I hope I did a better job of describing what I really meant, and I'm sure someone can explain it better than I can.