Is Iridium Wine worth it?

[YukoValis]

Plain starfruit wine sells for 3100 (with Artisan)
to go from no star to silver is 14 days. sells for 3900
to go from silver star to gold is another 14 days. 4700
but from gold to Iridium is a whopping 28 days. 6300.
So that is a whole month extra for 1500 more gold.

I would think you would want to stop at gold, and get more time to put more wine in. I see myself running out of casks real quick. thoughts?

[I Kinda Fail]

I'd say go for gold. It's a matter of quality vs quantity.

If you've got say 50 casks, and your greenhouse only grows 10 every 14 days, then it'd be better to go for iridium.
If you've got 50 casks, and your greenhouse produces 400 every 5 days, then you want the faster flip.

[YukoValis]

Originally posted by I Kinda Fail:

I'd say go for gold. It's a matter of quality vs quantity.

If you've got say 50 casks, and your greenhouse only grows 10 every 14 days, then it'd be better to go for iridium.
If you've got 50 casks, and your greenhouse produces 400 every 5 days, then you want the faster flip.

I have 94 casks, but I get 20 wine every 14 days. so I can make it work, but it will take forever lol.

[Morgan]

No it is not worth it.

The cellar is just a bonus way to make a bit of extra gold from a bunch of products once or twice a month. Given the amount of time involved you'll be selling most of your products the normal way.

[The Y'All Of Us]

The wiki even seems to have incorrect information about cask times as well- Pale Ale is only supposed to take 14 days to reach Iridium quality, but mine have been in there for nearly fifty days and only just hit gold. At this point I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and leave higher yield items in there as a bonus and sell everything else that I produce in the interim.

Casks are disappointing.

[Draconic_Anomaly]

no just get a shed fill it with kegs and sell them all when you can

[I Kinda Fail]

Yeah, I think I might hold off on casks for a bit. I've heard that ironically, the best thing to use them for is cheese. But I guess you could just use the cellar for more kegs...

[Abalister]

The only reason I use the casks is to get as may items as I can with the purple star on it. Once my collection of items is done, the time consumption to make money is not worth it. Better sell all these wines faster from the kegs.

[YukoValis]

well the way I see it, it is an investment. If you put them in you won't make a profit now, but in 1-2 months time, if you keep stocking it every 7 days you get new wine, you will just keep getting much more money. It will continue to pay off.

My question though, is if it is worth waiting another 28 days for iridium at 1500 more gold, or if you should stop at like gold. "I kinda fail" had the right idea though. It all depends on how you feed the investment.

[coxgobbler]

casks are too slow for anything but a bonus. By them time you have a full celler of cask and starfruit/ancient fruit money is no longer an issue. so making more money faster doesnt really benifit you just using cask as a lazy way to boost value on already valuable wines.

[The Y'All Of Us]

Going off of what YukoValis was saying, just keeping them in the cask long enough to get a silver quality star and swapping them out during your harvest rotation is still a decent boost in price. The only problem is, you can only get around 70ish casks going at a time, and the popular method is keeping a deluxe barn full of kegs. That's 120 kegs.

It really is just a nice small bonus on top of things you were already selling, the best practical use for it is to use said quality wines as gifts, and reap the benefit of increased friendship gain.

[YukoValis]

Originally posted by Charlotte:

The only problem is, you can only get around 70ish casks going at a time,

Actually, I managed to fit 120+ in the basement now. :) the picture on the wiki has a very nice guide to getting a ton.

[Christopher Ralston]

So here is the math for Starfruit assuming 188 kegs and 188 casks running 112 days of one year in Stardew Valley. I have included a just Wine as a baseline. Hopefully this is understandable to everyone. Link below is to an excel spreadsheet that shows the math.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BiKYvGScpr-AAktE70qv3-fGRGZcHyXUwQwoyEnExRk/edit?usp=sharing

Starfruit		Wine	Silver	Gold	Iridium
Days			7	14	28	56
# of times per year	16	8	4	2
Artisan Price		3,150	3,937	4,725	6,300
Quantity from Aged Wine		1,504	752	376
Amount from Aged Wine		5,921,248	3,553,200	2,368,800
Gold/Day Aged Wine		52,868	31,725	21,150
Quantity from Unaged Wine	3,008	1,504	2,256	2,632
Amount from Unaged Wine	9,475,200	4,737,600	7,106,400	8,290,800
Gold/Day Unaged Wine	84,600	42,300	63,450	74,025
Total Gold Per Year	9,475,200	10,658,848	10,659,600	10,659,600
Gold/day		84,600	95,168	95,175	95,175[/code]
Getting it to Gold gives the same exact amount per year as Iridium, and for fruits whose base price is and even set of tens(such as 20 30 40 etc) silver quality will be equal to gold and iridium.

[YukoValis]

Originally posted by manseekingaftergod:

Getting it to Gold gives the same exact amount per year as Iridium, and for fruits whose base price is and even set of tens(such as 20 30 40 etc) silver quality will be equal to gold and iridium.

damn. Thank you for that. So in other words, at most go for gold.

[ethan]

Originally posted by YukoValis:

Originally posted by manseekingaftergod:

Getting it to Gold gives the same exact amount per year as Iridium, and for fruits whose base price is and even set of tens(such as 20 30 40 etc) silver quality will be equal to gold and iridium.

damn. Thank you for that. So in other words, at most go for gold.

So is this saying that Silver makes the most? It I think takes 7 days, so you can consistely be aging Ancient Fruit wine? This is REALLY confusing to me. Wait a second this is Starfruit Wine.

[Christopher Ralston]

I created a spreadsheet of the results.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BiKYvGScpr-AAktE70qv3-fGRGZcHyXUwQwoyEnExRk/edit?usp=sharing

WARNING LOTS OF NUMBERS AHEAD

You run into differences because the game rounds the amount down for wine always. Example:

Equation for calculating wines value with Artisan Profession

Base Wine = Base fruit value times 3 times 1.4

Silver Wine = Base fruit value times 3 times 1.4 times 1.25

Gold Wine = Base fruit value times 3 times 1.4 times 1.5

Iridium Wine = Base fruit value times 3 times 1.4 times 2


Starfruit
Base Fruit Value = 750
Base Wine = 3150
Silver = 3937.5 Rounds down to 3937
Gold = 4725
Iridium = 6300

Whereas

Apples
Base Fruit Value = 100
Base Wine = 420
Silver = 525 (no rounding)
Gold = 630
Iridium = 840

When you do all the same calculations for apples whether you stop at silver, gold or iridium doesn't matter. They become equal in the end.

I did the math to figure out a maxed out cellar with 188 Casks at 112 days in a year you can theoretically(with wine) do 8 Silver-4 Gold-2 Iridium Agings respectively. I made a baseline of 188 kegs in the cellar producing just wine, and then those same 188 kegs producing the same amount of wine while utilizing the aging in the cellar for each quality.

188*16=3008 potential Wine in a year
No-Star (3008*3150)=9,475,200 ~84,600 Gold/Day

8*188=1504 Silver Star Plus 3008-1504=1504 Regular wine
Silver (1504*3937)+(1504*3150)=10,658,848 ~95,168 Gold/Day

4*188=752 Gold Star Plus 3008-750=2256 Regular Wine
Gold (752*4725)+(2256*3150)=10,659,600 ~95175 Gold/Day

2*188=376 Iridium Star Plus 3008-376=2632 Regular
Iridium (376*6300)+(2632*3150)=10,659,600 ~95175 Gold/Day


So there is a Marginal Difference Between Silver and Gold if you are maxing out your cellar.

Now if you are just using 188 casks in the cellar and not selling anything except the quality you choose here is that info, compared to the same amount of plain wine.

Silver (1504*3937)=5,921,248 ~52868 Gold/Day
No-Star (1504*3150)=4,737,600 ~42300 Gold/Day

Gold (752*4725)=3,553,200 ~31725 Gold/Day
No-Star (752*3150)=2368800 ~21150 Gold/Day

Iridium (376*6300)=2,368,800 ~21150 Gold/Day
No-Star (376*3150)=1,184,400 ~10575 Gold/Day

Which shows that iridium seriously isn't a good use of the cellar time, you are better off just getting to silver Quality and stopping.