Auto-hook vs Master fishing rod echantment

[cerial]

Question: I'm planning to enchant my fishing rod, but I'm not sure if I should try to get auto-hook or try to get master. What are the benefits of each and what would be the best option? Thanks!

Answer: Thank you for everyone who answered! I'm just going to make a summary of each

Auto-hook:

more of a convenience upgrade
could be used for an AFK carps when paired with right tackle

Master:

increases bobber bar height
decreases the max amount of time before fish bite
+1 fishing rod proficiency

Preserving:

50% chance to not lose bait/tackle durability when paired with a dressed spinner and wild bait

Overall, the master enchantment seems like the best all-rounder

[Anzaman]

Auto-Hook simply removes the need of starting up the minigame yourself, so personally I feel like that's a bit of wasted enchantment. Depends how actively you monitor your fishing, I guess.

So personally I'm going with the Master -enchantment. Less time between catches and larger bobber bar for easier time seems nice.

[76561198228000512]

Auto-Hook can be used for AFK carps in the sewers with that hook bobber thing... sounds a bit situational to me. So I vote for Master, unless you got a quest to catch a lot of carp.

[DigitalBlizzNX]

One I would like to nominate as well just for in general is Preserving. I know by that point you're probably rolling in resources, but 50% chance to not lose bait or tackle durability when combined with a Dressed Spinner and Wild Bait is probably on par with Master giving you extra speed, and having a good chance of the spinner lasting multiple days, or at least all day. But of the two specifically you mentioned, Master, easily. Auto-Hook just sounds like a waste.

[Pixel Peeper]

Auto-hook is pretty much a convenience upgrade. Technically it would save you maybe a quarter of a second of time per catch, but that's not very significant.

+1 Fishing would increase the size of your Fishing bar and, potentially, increase your cast distance. The benefits should be much greater.

You could make an argument for Preserving saving you time/money/hassle to get bait twice as often and the money/space to have double as many tackles in your inventory. At 100% I think I would have gone for that one, but "half hassle" is not much better than "normal hassle" because the hassle is still there.

[TeperiBlaze]

Since I just started a couple of days ago, I get so frustrated by some fish. Mind you, I'm old and have reflexes like my old dog, but I never found mini-games so hard.

Well I'm much better since my Noob post, I caught 32 fish in one day, it was rainy so I could do just that, fishing. So I go to the mountain lake, I grab a few there, but one is jumping up and down like crazy. I can't catch this guy for my life, even if I was SOOOO close once. What is this fish?

Then down to the ocean, there is a wild fish living there, I know it. When I catch it, he jumps right to the top and when I'm there he goes to the bottom again. 100% fail on this vile fish. What is it?

Then we have another in rivers, just driving me crazy: Ohh, I have him, Damn I have not. LOL.
Wiggle up and down like a mad fish, what fish is this? I haven't checked the Wiki for specific
fish yet.

I'm only lvl 5 in fishing, but I have the Iridium rod with Trap catcher, which helps me against the easier targets, but these rocket fish, I have no idea to deal with them.

I will keep this post in mind when I understand a bit more and level up a bit more I guess?

Sorry, for the hijacking, I thought creating another post about fishing would be inappropriate.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by TeperiBlaze:

So I go to the mountain lake, I grab a few there, but one is jumping up and down like crazy. I can't catch this guy for my life, even if I was SOOOO close once. What is this fish?

Then down to the ocean, there is a wild fish living there, I know it. When I catch it, he jumps right to the top and when I'm there he goes to the bottom again. 100% fail on this vile fish. What is it?

Then we have another in rivers, just driving me crazy: Ohh, I have him, Damn I have not. LOL.
Wiggle up and down like a mad fish, what fish is this? I haven't checked the Wiki for specific
fish yet.

I'm only lvl 5 in fishing, but I have the Iridium rod with Trap catcher, which helps me against the easier targets, but these rocket fish, I have no idea to deal with them.

Depends on the season, time of day and exact behavior. If it was Spring, it could just have been a particularly feisty Largemouth Bass or Chub. If it was Summer it could have been a Pike, they constantly move up and down by quite a significant distance, like Chubs but worse.

You'd probably have freaked out if it had been the Legend, the unique legendary fish that only appears in a specific spot in the Mountain Lake when it rains in Spring, that one can move through the entire bar twice a second. But you'd probably have noticed the different fish icon (it has a little thing on its back) and I don't even think you can hook it at your fishing level.

In the Ocean, a fish that very quickly swims 3/4 up the bar and stays there for a couple seconds, and then either move up again or a long distance back down sounds in one go sounds exactly like a Tuna, but they don't appear in Spring. If it was raining and it was Spring it might have been an Eel. In Summer it could have been an Octopus, or if it was late in the day a Super Cucumber. These tend to move much more erratically than Tuna, though.

By the way you're describing things I'm guessing it's Summer and it was a Pike in the lake and a Tuna in the Ocean.

If it's Spring your descriptions don't match quite as well and you'd have overpanicked at the Lake, but I'm guessing a particularly feisty Chub and an Eel.

Your Fishing level increases the size of the Fishing bar. With the proper level/food/tackle/enchantment your green fishing bar takes up about half the size of the total fishing area so it's real hard for fish to get out of it.

[kingjames488]

I got preserving on mine and it's pretty great IMO. especially with the new bait and rare lure.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

I got preserving on mine and it's pretty great IMO. especially with the new bait and rare lure.

I have doubts about the magic bait. It would only be useful during seasons that have weak and cheap fish, and the much wider variety of fish would make it more difficult to identify whichever one you've hooked and thus make it harder to anticipate their movements.

But the lure sounds really, really good. I just never found the recipe...

[TeperiBlaze]

Sir Trip, I'm happy to take any advise from you, and as you don't reveal spoilers I'm even more grateful. thank you. This was late summer and it was infuriating, but the one at the mountain must have been legendary. No chance I can get that one in while LOL. i had 3 tries on it and zip-zap,gone

But there is still the lake by Marley's, I look at it and it's gone. I suppose my fishing skills just suck at lvl 5.

I keep on working on it, a little fishing for more xp right?

But I'm very good collecting seaweed and other junk. That should be my profession in this game. :)

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by TeperiBlaze:

Sir Trip, I'm happy to take any advise from you, and as you don't reveal spoilers I'm even more grateful. thank you. This was late summer and it was infuriating, but the one at the mountain must have been legendary. No chance I can get that one in while LOL. i had 3 tries on it and zip-zap,gone

But there is still the lake by Marley's, I look at it and it's gone. I suppose my fishing skills just suck at lvl 5.

I keep on working on it, a little fishing for more xp right?

But I'm very good collecting seaweed and other junk. That should be my profession in this game. :)

The legendary fish in the Mountain Lake doesn't appear in Summer, so I'm afraid you have yet to experience that nightmare. It moves so fast and can dart literally anywhere in a fraction of a second, catching it is not a matter of skill, it's essentially a matter of maxing and buffing your Fishing and then getting lucky with your guesses.

Pikes would be your nemesis at this point, and interestingly these can be found in both lakes and rivers. There would have been some in the pond west of Marley's place (it indeed counts as a lake) and also some in the river just south of Marley's and Leah's places. These really love to zip up and down constantly, a good distance too, which makes them particularly tough.

Indeed, raising Fishing is your best bet! Fish a lot, try to get "Perfect" catches as often as possible (you get 240% normal EXP for Perfect catches) and Fishing will rise quickly. The game is very generous with Fishing EXP, I just started a new playthrough and went up to level 3 Fishing on Day 2 and level 4 on Day 3 even though I didn't fish all day on either of those days. With bait you can catch so many more fish per day, you get EXP twice as fast and the fish give more EXP so it all snowballs quite nicely. Even that Seaweed you've been collecting gives a bit of EXP!

I'm very glad you decided to give it a good shot. So many people give up at level 0 Fishing, but you went for it and now you're doing well. With a higher Fishing level and after learning different fish's behaviors, you'll be surprised what you can accomplish.

I know lots of people hate the fishing but I think it's very well implemented.

[TeperiBlaze]

I totally agree, keep to it until you understand what you're doing. When you do, you think the same thing: How can it be so hard? It is a very hard beginner game, but you get it slowly and one day you get it all. But not in one day.

Sir Trip, night time in aussie land and let the koalas give you some love, Thank you so much.

[tikiman572]

Funnily enough, I have an easier time with the Legend than I do with, say, the Glacierfish.

Holy moly. That damn Glacierfish. Even with max Fishing, Master enchantment, AND food buffs, that thing? Good friggin' LUCK people.

[FafnirChaos]

Auto-hook for me at least is useless, I go for the sound to get prepped for the mini game, If it auto-hooks I wouldn't be prepared for it(I'm usually watching a movie/TV when fishing)

[kingjames488]

Originally posted by Tripoteur Ventripotent:

Originally posted by kingjames488:

I got preserving on mine and it's pretty great IMO. especially with the new bait and rare lure.

I have doubts about the magic bait. It would only be useful during seasons that have weak and cheap fish, and the much wider variety of fish would make it more difficult to identify whichever one you've hooked and thus make it harder to anticipate their movements.

But the lure sounds really, really good. I just never found the recipe...

as far as I can tell the lure can only be looted(I only ever got 1), which makes preserving even more useful in that scenario :P

the bait is more fun than genuinely useful I guess, but some fish do have pretty narrow time frames in which they can be caught, like midnight carp.

and really, with something like escargot for +3 fishing do you need 1 more fishing level?

[wilky]

Originally posted by kingjames488:

and really, with something like escargot for +3 fishing do you need 1 more fishing level?

Depends on what you're fishing for. If something like Lava Eels, well I'll take all the help I can get.