Fruits or veggies ?

[Nucleon]

Am I the only one still somewhat annoyed by the fact that tomatoes, eggplants and pumpkins are classified as veggies in the game whilst rhubarb is classified as a fruit ?

[-Na Shagul-]

Probably

[CloudSeeker]

It is most likely done that way so the fruit artisan goods do not apply to them.

[I Kinda Fail]

It's how they're used in cooking.

If tomato was a fruit, instead of becoming tomato juice in a keg, it'd become tomato wine.
If eggplant was a fruit, instead of getting pickled eggplant, you'd get eggplant jelly.
Rhubarb pie is more akin to an apple or cherry pie.
Pumpkin pie is more akin to a sweet potato pie.

[Bitter]

Fruits

[The Colgate King]

Scientifically a tomato is a fruit, but it's practical applications are that of a vegetable. You can say a tomato is a fruit and you are technically right, but inside the kitchen it is a vegetable because of its flavor profile and application.

[Nucleon]

I mean your points are hella true and all that, I get it why it would be done this way to make it easier to program and all that, MY point was just that is slightly annoyed me since i know they aren't said thing. (Eggplants are actually also classified as a berry ... I didn't know that before)

Plus would it even be possible to just make them into exceptions like pale ale?
(Also just ... ketchup ...)

*On a side note, I didn't even know pickled pumpkins were an actual thing ...*

[OrangeCat]

and what about pumpkin jelly we want pumpkin jelly

[Nucleon]

Tomatoes are classified as a fruit due to quite a few reasons actually ... you'd be surprised at what actually is a fruit and what's a veggie ...
Cucumbers are fruits, corn is a fruit and I believe peas are too ...

[Alexan]

Tomatoes are biologically defined as fruits as they are formed after the flower and they contain seeds for producing offspring.
Yet it is usually ALSO considered as vegetables as its uses in kitchens are more likely a veggie

[Starhawk Ranger]

Actually corn is a grain and beans are legumes. Yes it does annoy me sometimes especially when the culinary world (in America) call coriander...cilantro. I love the game so I just ignore it. All of my (game) fruits and veggies are organic and delicious.

[Nucleon]

red ... peppers are indeed fruits ... they're also considered berries if I remember correctly. Also for the corn thing, it's actually a veggie, a grain and a vegetable since it grows from a flower ... To be precise the corn kernels ARE fruits whilst the rest of the corn is a vegetable.

[Nucleon]

Oh and peas are fruits since they contain seeds and develop from the ovary of a flower... yeah ... Don't worry ... I am also hugely confused by this fact as well but it is true ...

[Nucleon]

And for the entire tomato-is-a-fruit-or-isn't thing, dudes ... it's biology ... tomatoes are fruits and that's that ... yeah they might be used more like a veggie but so are eggplants and avocados yet they are still fruits.

What you're all saying is the same as saying ants and wasps/bees aren't related because ant don't have wings (except for nuptial flights in which king and queen ants have wings for a while)

[Ryika]

Messaggio originale di Nucleon:

And for the entire tomato-is-a-fruit-or-isn't thing, dudes ... it's biology ... tomatoes are fruits and that's that ... yeah they might be used more like a veggie but so are eggplants and avocados yet they are still fruits.

What you're all saying is the same as saying ants and wasps/bees aren't related because ant don't have wings (except for nuptial flights in which king and queen ants have wings for a while)

Definitions are context-sensitive.

Botanically, tomatoes are fruits, because they have seeds.
Nutrioually, it's a vegetable, since it's low on sugar and calories.
In the kitchen it's a vegetable, since it's used in much the same way other vegetables are used, but can usually not fulfill the role of a fruit.

These definitions are all valid, and in a vacuum, all three of them are based on entirely arbitrary characteristics. There's no reason why the fact that they have seeds should matter more than the fact that they're low on calories, unless we're trying to create botanical categories based on those characteristics.

Of course if we're speaking in generalized terms, without any obvious context, we would probably go with the botanical definition (since it's the one that attempts to categorize them scientifically), but that's not the way the term vegetable is applied in Stardew. So what needs to be looked at here is in which context the tomato is being categorized in.

So what is the categorization used for in Stardew? Well, as somebody already said, it's used to determine what happens when it's processed, so we're clearly in the realm of nutrition/cooking (ingredients) here. The definition that was chosen makes perfect sense for the context.

[Brett]

About peppers: Pepper jelly is a thing, and it’s awesome.