First Coffee Bean?

[nike276]

on my main play through, i want to make a coffee greenhouse (yes i know that it isn't the most ideal, and i know what is the most ideal but i really want a coffee greenhouse lol) so where do i get my first bean? I've been grinding dust sprites for a few days and i got many items that have a 2% chance of dropping but not the coffee bean. it is winter, and pls don't comment if it doesn't really help what i am aiming for (e.g. "Thats a waste of a greenhouse fill it all up with ancient fruit and starfruit")

[DarkStarKnight]

Pretty sure it's an reward in the Community Center Bundles

[Pixel Peeper]

It's your Greenhouse, you can use it for whatever you want. Just be aware that you have to harvest your Beans very often (once every two days) and they only sell for 15g per Bean.

Dust Sprites indeed drop Coffee Beans. It's not super common but it's not that rare either. I got about a dozen Beans while grinding the 500 Dust Sprites for the Guild list.

The Traveling Cart sells Beans quite often, but it usually costs 2,500g for a single Bean.

[Doctor Teo]

Hey! I made a coffee greenhouse too! I only recently unplanted them for a different crop, but I enjoyed making Coffee while I could.

Backing up what Tri said, the little Dust Sprites from floor 40-79 in the ice areas have a tiny chance of dropping a coffee bean. If you go in on a day where your luck is higher, the odds improve of both Coffee and Coal dropping; it's how I got my first bean.

As long as you have a single coffee bean, you can start an entire plantation - the stuff grows like weeds once it starts sprouting. I think Coffee is actually how I broke into earning lots of money for the first time, since it grows so ludicrously fast and brewing coffee barely takes 1/30th the time for wine (I actually used to brew 3-5 batches a day).

[NotThatHarkness]

In my last game I gave up on finding one in the mines and spent the 2500 for one at the ♥♥♥♥♥ cart. I only grew 20 coffee bean plants in the green house and used the rest of the space for other plants. But those 20 were more than enough to brew coffee for gifts, which most villagers like.

[TheAlmightyQ]

Originally posted by Doctor Teo:

Backing up what Tri said, the little Dust Sprites from floor 40-79 in the ice areas have a tiny chance of dropping a coffee bean. If you go in on a day where your luck is higher, the odds improve of both Coffee and Coal dropping; it's how I got my first bean.
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Alternatively, go to the mines on a bad luck day, and you should have more dust sprites to contend with, equating to more opportunities for a bean to drop... Good luck and speedy travels

[CloudSeeker]

You can get them very easily in the traveling cart.

[AdmiralRayden]

I bought my first one off the cart for 1k and then picked up 7 more down in the mines the day after when I went on an Iron run. It's not too hard to get them. Plus when you do plant it, you'll get so many beans that you'll be swimming in them pretty soon. One plant yeilded over 50 beans for me.

[Magzie]

It is true that Coffee Beans only sell for 15 gold each but most people don't really do the math. For one after one seed is gotten you can replant 4 then 20 and so on until you have all 42 plots planted. This means that your daily gold per day is the dust amount from the wiki of 25.56 because you got the seeds for free and the total gold per day of the traveling merchant is very decieving. This means, once you have enough extra seeds, that coffee beans are the most profitable plant in spring crops and almost beating starfruit in gold per day. So let's look at that. Starfruit in a green house will make about 252,000 gold for the year at base crop value and assuming 8 harvest for a year. But You will also lose 134,400 from buying seeds making you profit only 117,600. The first season of coffee, assuming you grow enough seeds to plant the whole green house at once, will bring 25,000 gold and 105,000 for the other 3 seasons for a total of 130,000 gold assuming base value. But there is a catch. You can grow coffee outside the greenhouse for 2 season in your whole field where as starfruit can only grow for 1 season outside the green house. Also if you don't mind a little production and are looking for a unused plant for you greenhouse you could be a oil producer. Grow sunflowers in ur greenhouse. Then turn all the sunflowers into seeds after replanting make the rest into oil in a barn/shed. 1 seed = 1 oil which sells for 100 gold a pop but it is a alittle rng dependent but will most likely make you more then coffee once you set it all up. Average will be about 1-2 seeds when harvesting sunflowers and 2 seeds from the seedmaker that is about 3-4 seeds per plant. selling the oil for a year will make you ~205,800 assume average rng rolls and you have enough oilmakers to keep up. Fun thing about oilmaking is you can also get into pigs for more profit but they are annoying, fyi!

[AdmiralRayden]

I would have to agree that for the money, Starfruit Wine is the way to go. It is long, lengthy, and laborous, but when you are able to make Casks you can also age them for additional profit. Iridium Star Starfruit Wine sells at 4500 or 6300(with Artisan Boost of 40%) easily making it the most profitable product to sell.

I recently planted and harvested 400 Starfruit. At their current value I am looking at 320k (Not including the increased star amount because I'm going to turn it into wine). Now when I am finished turning it into wine my profit will be (And I have Artisan Perk making my wine sales at 3150 a bottle) 1,260,000. Now if I age them to Iridium Star Quality my new profits will be 2,520,000 making this a very very nice sell.

Coffee in of itself is nice, but I plan on using it myself for the speed boost. I don't like how slow I am in game.

[Magzie]

So that 6300 wine takes i don't kniow what like 69 days or so for one wine. No one thinks of the time it takes. Also there is only enough space in the cellar for 189. that means it will take you 177 days to make all 400 wine to max. it is a waste of time to upgrade wine. Now coffee is a way to go but the good thing about coffee beans is it take about what an hour and then you are frre to do other more profitable stuff like fish or animals or the like. if you are going to produce stuff I would still go with sunflowers. If you choose coffee beans or coffee I would go with the growth increase instead of Artiusan bonus unless you plan to make the other artisan goods to sell. Just as a point of reference in the same 69 day you can make 8 more wine for 9 total which sells for 28,350 gold or 49910 in jelly

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by Magzie:

So that 6300 wine takes i don't kniow what like 69 days or so for one wine. In that same time you can grow and sell 7860 from a single plant.

The aging process is just bonus, though. You put the Wine in Casks, come pick it up two months later, and you've doubled the Wine's value. Doubling your revenue from a particular source for just one minute of work is actually quite impressive. And in the meantime, you're still free to grow stuff.

The only time it hurts you to do this is if you needed money to invest immediately. In that scenario it's better to sell the Wine (or even the Fruit) right away and invest the gold in something that's going to yield more than what making and aging Wine would.

[Magzie]

Originally posted by Tripoteur Ventripotent:

Originally posted by Magzie:

So that 6300 wine takes i don't kniow what like 69 days or so for one wine. In that same time you can grow and sell 7860 from a single plant.

The aging process is just bonus, though. You put the Wine in Casks, come pick it up two months later, and you've doubled the Wine's value. Doubling your revenue from a particular source for just one minute of work is actually quite impressive. And in the meantime, you're still free to grow stuff.

The only time it hurts you to do this is if you needed money to invest immediately. In that scenario it's better to sell the Wine (or even the Fruit) right away and invest the gold in something that's going to yield more than what making and aging Wine would.

But your not double your profit per day. You are hurt your profits by keeping the wine and aging it. Your Gold per day is 157.5 for reg starfruit wine but only ~39.9 for max level wine. You are litarally losing 117.6 gold per day to get double profit. Now if it were more gold or less time aging it is worth it how ever you are losing way more gold by keeping it and aging. You should just sell it all when it comes out. You are wasting 6,938.4 gold so you can make an extra 3150 gold. rofl

[feralgal]

Originally posted by Magzie:

] But your not double your profit per day. You are hurt your profits by keeping the wine and aging it. Your Gold per day is 157.5 for reg starfruit wine but only ~39.9 for max level wine. You are litarally losing 117.6 gold per day to get double profit. Now if it were more gold or less time aging it is worth it how ever you are losing way more gold by keeping it and aging. You should just sell it all when it comes out. You are wasting 6,938.4 gold so you can make an extra 3150 gold. rofl

It depends on if you're constrained by time or cash. Your calculation assumes that your time is unlimited. You can' t grow unlimited starfruit bc either you're constrained by time (your time during day or the proper season) or by space if you're growing it in a greenhouse or even by your farm size if you have sprinklers and junimo huts It's not that different than deciding if you should grow starfruit or blueberries in the summer: ppl who are constrained by cash and trying to grow their working capital should grow blueberries bc you get the money back faster and don't need to keep rebuying the seeds. Those who have plenty of money should grow starfruit (looking only at it financially).

If you're trying to maximize profits, you should look at what else you can do with the time/capital. If you have something more profitable for your use of time or cash, do it. Otherwise, make wine and age it in casks.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by Magzie:

Originally posted by Tripoteur Ventripotent:

The aging process is just bonus, though. You put the Wine in Casks, come pick it up two months later, and you've doubled the Wine's value. Doubling your revenue from a particular source for just one minute of work is actually quite impressive. And in the meantime, you're still free to grow stuff.

The only time it hurts you to do this is if you needed money to invest immediately. In that scenario it's better to sell the Wine (or even the Fruit) right away and invest the gold in something that's going to yield more than what making and aging Wine would.

But your not double your profit per day. You are hurt your profits by keeping the wine and aging it. Your Gold per day is 157.5 for reg starfruit wine but only ~39.9 for max level wine. You are litarally losing 117.6 gold per day to get double profit. Now if it were more gold or less time aging it is worth it how ever you are losing way more gold by keeping it and aging. You should just sell it all when it comes out. You are wasting 6,938.4 gold so you can make an extra 3150 gold. rofl

Imagine that I can either sell my watch today for a dollar or in a hundred days for two dollars.

Sure, the first scenario means I've made one whole dollar in one day, while in the second scenario it took me a hundred days just to make two bucks; I've made money fifty times more slowly by waiting.

But if I don't need any money until next year and I sell my watch for a dollar when I could have sold it for two, then I lose half of my watch's potential value for no reason. Why would I do that?

[AdmiralRayden]

Time and Investment is a quarky thing. IRL I put away 100 dollars a mont into an Investment group. As of right now, I make about $2.5 a month and it grows. My annual projection for this year is about $34 plus the 1200 I put away for the year. Now this doesn't seem like a whole lot and that I'm not making a whole lot of money, but by year 5 (assuming my investment firm can continue the same % rate) I'll be making roughtly 400 a month off of interest alone. Sure, I'm still throwing 100 bucks into it every month, but I'm starting to see a good return based off interest. By year 10, I'm looking at about 1800 a month in interest alone. Year 15 sees me neting over 8K a month in interest. All from investing 100 bucks a month.

This game lets you play with investment and time. Sure, it doesn't seem like a whole lot of good to throw everything into Starfruit Wine. But You shouldn't throw EVERYTHING into Starfruit Wine. Keep some money aside to grow other things while you take your time with making wine and aging it to perfection. While you make money doing other things, you'll feel the satisfaction of the huge payout at the end of aging your Starfruit Wine to perfection.

Just like a real life investment. It pays off when you keep at it and don't stop and pull out early.