Agriculturist VS Artisan

[skgkgigi]

What is better?

[-Na Shagul-]

Artisan is so overpowered comparing it to Agriculturist is a joke; which is a joke skill on its own. The 10% growth speed absolutely pales in comparison to the stupid amounts of money you'll make refining artisan products.

[Mynoris]

Yeah, the skills in this game need some serious re-balancing.

[I Kinda Fail]

Artisan's almost always better. I think Agriculturalist is only good for certain crops, and for players who use fertilizer rather than process their goods. So if you don't have kegs, but have tons of crab pots to make fertilizer, then Agriculturalist might be better... but it's still nothing special :S

[Ankou]

Mynoris eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah, the skills in this game need some serious re-balancing.

I don't think there is a skill path in this game that one choice isn't blatantly better than the other. It's really a shame, having them be equal but different could add some more replayability.

As they exist now, really the only reason to choose half the skill paths (including Agriculturist) is to deliberately nerf your character because the game is already too easy.

[capivara]

Artisan for sure.

[astral]

There's basically a meta for skills and stuff, here it is:

Farming:
Tiller Lv. 5
Artisan Lv. 10
Mining:
Geologist Lv. 5
Gemologist Lv. 10
Foraging:
Gatherer Lv. 5
Botanist Lv. 10
Fishing:
Fisher Lv. 5
Angler Lv. 10
Combat:
Scout Lv. 5
Desparado Lv. 10

[I Kinda Fail]

The Dark Tyger eredeti hozzászólása:

I Kinda Fail eredeti hozzászólása:

Artisan's almost always better. I think Agriculturalist is only good for certain crops, and for players who use fertilizer rather than process their goods. So if you don't have kegs, but have tons of crab pots to make fertilizer, then Agriculturalist might be better... but it's still nothing special :S

Why would you not still process your goods if you use fertilizer?

Why would you? :S Gold star produce and no star produce is worth the same amount after processing. If most of your crops (say 60-70%) are silver/gold star, you'll get a good price for them without processing them, so you don't need multiple sheds full of jars and kegs, allowing for more crops to be planted.

It's just another way to play the game. If someone prefers the crab pot skill tree over the fishing profit boost, then they'll probably get tons of quality fertilizer from it. If someone prefers being a lumberjack over foraging, they'd have tons of sap for fertilizer.

[Ben Argo]

I have artisan but I use fertilizer.

Gold star stuff gets sold for immediate profit, regular stuff gets processed

[I Kinda Fail]

The Dark Tyger eredeti hozzászólása:

I Kinda Fail eredeti hozzászólása:

Why would you? :S Gold star produce and no star produce is worth the same amount after processing.

Not really. Iridium star is worth the same or slightly more. But you still get slightly more if you process. Especially with Artisan. And even with fertilizer, not everything is going to be gold or iridium. You'll have a lot of silvers and basics too, and those are definitely worth processing.

Yes... You process the garbage, which should be the minority, and immediately sell the silver and gold star produce. I'm pretty sure there isn't any iridium star produce, without using cheats? I've seen it on eggs and milk, but not produce.

[Ben Argo]

Nah, I process silver because I’m pretty sure the processed stuff is still more valuable. Lemme check the wiki

Edit: so I think I generally use silver stuff for wines/beer unless my regular quality stuff is in large quantities. I have the greenhouse full of blueberries and cranberries at the moment and that should net me a lot of regular berries. Once I reach a certain quantity, I can safely sell all star quality fruits.

[-Na Shagul-]

The Dark Tyger eredeti hozzászólása:

I Kinda Fail eredeti hozzászólása:

Why would you? :S Gold star produce and no star produce is worth the same amount after processing.

Not really. Iridium star is worth the same or slightly more. But you still get slightly more if you process. Especially with Artisan. And even with fertilizer, not everything is going to be gold or iridium. You'll have a lot of silvers and basics too, and those are definitely worth processing.

Whether you process gold star produce or no star produce the refined product will -always- sell for exactly the same across the board. The exception to this rule is if you age it afterwards in the case of cheese or wine/beer.

Silver, gold, iridium eggs processed into mayonnaise will always come out as regular mayonnaise, large eggs will always come out as gold star mayonnaise. Even regular mayonnaise sells for more than a large iridium egg and most, if not all refined products will sell for more than the product itself regardless of skills the player has chosen.

[Chompman]

GamingPro100 eredeti hozzászólása:

There's basically a meta for skills and stuff, here it is:

Farming:
Tiller Lv. 5
Artisan Lv. 10
Mining:
Geologist Lv. 5
Gemologist Lv. 10
Foraging:
Gatherer Lv. 5
Botanist Lv. 10
Fishing:
Fisher Lv. 5
Angler Lv. 10
Combat:
Scout Lv. 5
Desparado Lv. 10

I would suggest you go for fighter and then brute instead as the scout path is very weak because of how low the crit rate is.

Also remember you can change these when you have access to the sewers.

[Mynoris]

I Kinda Fail eredeti hozzászólása:

The Dark Tyger eredeti hozzászólása:

Not really. Iridium star is worth the same or slightly more. But you still get slightly more if you process. Especially with Artisan. And even with fertilizer, not everything is going to be gold or iridium. You'll have a lot of silvers and basics too, and those are definitely worth processing.

Yes... You process the garbage, which should be the minority, and immediately sell the silver and gold star produce. I'm pretty sure there isn't any iridium star produce, without using cheats? I've seen it on eggs and milk, but not produce.

The closest thing is if you plant seeds that give you foraged items and you have the skill that turns all foraged items into iridium quality.

[Psylisa]

GamingPro100 eredeti hozzászólása:

There's basically a meta for skills and stuff, here it is:
Fishing:
Fisher Lv. 5
Angler Lv. 10

Combat:
Scout Lv. 5
Desparado Lv. 10

I disagree with your "meta".

I do Fisher/Pirate, because if you want to complete the museum, you're almost forced to fish up treasures.

Unless you cheat/edit... in which case, go for Angler. But if you cheat/edit, does your income truly matter?

You could also change it to Pirate when you want to go for the museum, then change it back, I suppose. But for 10,000 doesn't seem too much worth it.

Fighter/Brute is also much better for combat. The base crit rate is very low (like 2%?) and getting 50% of that just brings it to like 3%. Yeah, I confirmed on the wiki, crit for most weapons is just 2%. Take the extra damage.

[-Na Shagul-]

The Dark Tyger eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't recall saying it did process into anything other than basic no-star. Mind showing me where I did?

I must've misunderstood then, I thought you were saying raw iridium items processed will sell for more than other raw processed items. My bad