+2 Farming!

[Unknwn!]

So i have a tom kha soup which gives +2 farming, when should i have it active, when planting or harvesting?

[I Kinda Fail]

I think it just makes you use less energy when tilling and watering.

It's possible it affects star-quality, or multiple crops, but I'm not sure. Try planting a field of 100 potatoes, and see if you get 110 potatoes without and 120 with; or 35 gold with, 18 without.

[carl8000]

^You sure? I always thought star quality was determined when you harvested. This is admittedly based on exactly one data point that I might have misremembered (having to redo a day and having less gold star produce than the first time around)--I'll try this again and find out for sure.

[carl8000]

OK, in my current game I had some stuff to harvest, so I did one round of harvesting after eating pepper poppers (+2 farming), quit to title, then replayed the same day and harvested without eating anything (farming level 10):

Harvest with the food buff:
Amaranth: 12 normal, 12 silver star, 8 gold star
Radishes: 2 normal, 4 silver star, 2 gold star
Cranberries: 115 normal, 28 silver star, 22 gold star

Harvest without buffs:
Amaranth: 15 normal, 10 silver star, 7 gold star
Radishes: 3 normal, 4 silver star, 1 gold star
Cranberries: 125 normal, 24 silver star, 16 gold star

So to the TC, you should eat your TK soup before you harvest a bunch of things

Edit: Footnote, after doing the above test I quit, and just now decided to play out the entire day so I had to reharvest everything. I wound up getting the exact same 'Harvest without buffs' as described above, so I'm thinking the game does figure out what the harvest will be in advance, but maybe also predetermines what the harvest will be with food buffs.

[iwassnow]

Given how random numbers work, you would have needed a harvest of several thousand plants to get an accurate comparison. <.<

[carl8000]

Originally posted by iwassnow:

Given how random numbers work, you would have needed a harvest of several thousand plants to get an accurate comparison. <.<

This is wrong on a couple of levels, but just to be clear--red thought that the harvest results were predetermined at the beginning of the day (and that changing your farming level with food wouldn't affect it), so the number of plants doesn't matter given the result and the purpose of the trial (i.e., different harvests with different farming levels)

[iwassnow]

So I just reread your edit(which prompted my response) and realize I misread. I thought you had gotten different results with the same setup. If that were true, then any RNG applicable to crop rarity likely would require a larger sample size. However that isn't the case. I appologize for my indescretion. :S

[INSANEcyborg]

I just tested it on an old save, 1716 beets, deluxe speed grow, lv 10 farming. The first batch was planted with no bonuses, and harvested with +3 farming (farmers lunch). I got 27% gold, 39% silver, and 34% regular.
The second batch was planted with +3 farming, and harvested with no bonuses. That had 21% gold, 33% silver, and 46% regular, which is what the wiki says is normal for lv 10 farming.

So, it does help when harvesting, but not when planting.

[carl8000]

Originally posted by red255:

I just know if I harvest a parsnip and its gold star, and then I quit to title next time I harvest the parsnip its still a gold star parsnip. because it was determined before I harvested it.

I have a feeling that it is indeed predetermined, but that it's predetermined in relation to a farming level (like, instead of having one predetermined value it has 14, one for each possible farming level). I'm just guessing at the mechanics, but something does change if you eat farming food before you harvest.

[INSANEcyborg]

Originally posted by red255:

what do you mean 'second batch'

I would assume you plant 2000 crops or whatever. Harvest them without any food, and quit to title then harvest them with food.

if the amounts are the same then food has no affect.

I just know if I harvest a parsnip and its gold star, and then I quit to title next time I harvest the parsnip its still a gold star parsnip. because it was determined before I harvested it.

What I meant was that I didn't restart. I planted the first batch with no bonus, and waited for it to grow. Then I got the bonus, harvested and replanted, then waited for it to grow again. The first one had a small boost to average quality, but the second one didn't. If quality was determined when it was planted, I would expect the opposite.