What to build first, kitchen or barn for animals?

[Dron]

I am still in first year, Fall season.

[Rio]

If your going joja you don't need animals at all :D

Are you going to cook a ton if you make the kitchen? Otherwise its kind of a waste unless your filling the bigger house with kegs/preserve jars.

[Clovis Sangrail]

You are going to need a barn (also a coop) to produce the animal products needed for bundles.

Most importantly, you need the pantry bundle to open up the greenhouse, and that requires some milk and eggs and other animal products.

I built a barn and a coop, then once I had the bundle items, I sold off all the animals. I'll eventually store kegs or preserves jars in the barn and coop.

So I would suggest the barn.

But you also need to be able to cook things to restore your health, especially if you are staying up late to water and plow and plant, etc, or if you are getting into fights in the mines. (You can buy salads, but they are expensive.)

The kitchen lets you cook. I grew corn in year 2 and made about 800 tortillas out of it. Good cheap food.

So I would suggest the kitchen.

Bottom line -- No matter which one you do, you also eventually need the other.

[ysildrion]

I'd say the barn -> kitchen. Reason beeing, some really neat recipes require milk or eggs. You can stockpile those for later use. For the kitchen itself you need recipes, crops and other stuff, which are not available early on in great numbers for various reasons.

When it comes down to efficiency you need neither nor, Gus has a daily changing menu with occasional good dishes and for refilling stamina/health salmonberry season and blackberry season carry you along with hops.

[abstractAPPLE]

Barn.
Kitchen only if you enjoy cooking in videogames. You won't get money out of it.

[Rio]

Originally posted by blackMOUSE:

Barn.
Kitchen only if you enjoy cooking in videogames. You won't get money out of it.

I mean, you can if you have a ton of crab pots and know the Sashimi recipie. But thats a lot of wasted time.

[Dron]

Ok thanks I went for barn, but I can probably afford a kitchen soon as I had a steady income in Fall. Should I keep a lot of cash resereves for the Winter season or buy the kitchen with the cash? I should still get some income from chickens and cows in Winter I guess. What does going jaja mean?

[Clovis Sangrail]

It is Joja Corporation. it is in the wiki -- https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Stardew_Valley_Wiki

You can pay for improvements rather than doing the bundles.

If you don't mind being a corporate lackey.

[ysildrion]

You need some cash for seeds in spring, keep that in mind and without crops your income during winter is limited to fishing/foraging mostly. But without the need to tend to your crops, carefree upgrading both hoe and watering can is probably a better choice to spent your cash than the kitchen.

[Dron]

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

It is Joja Corporation. it is in the wiki -- https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Stardew_Valley_Wiki

You can pay for improvements rather than doing the bundles.

If you don't mind being a corporate lackey.

I forgot about that Joja mall, I almost never go there and it seems counter intituitive to the game plot as you went to the farm to get away from corporate and urban life.

[Dron]

Originally posted by ysildrion:

You need some cash for seeds in spring, keep that in mind and without crops your income during winter is limited to fishing/foraging mostly. But without the need to tend to your crops, carefree upgrading both hoe and watering can is probably a better choice to spent your cash than the kitchen.

I already upgraded all my tools to copper, though I am not sure what the effect was on the hoe, it works the same way as it did before, maybe just uses up less energy.

[CalhounMKZ]

Originally posted by Dron:

Originally posted by ysildrion:

You need some cash for seeds in spring, keep that in mind and without crops your income during winter is limited to fishing/foraging mostly. But without the need to tend to your crops, carefree upgrading both hoe and watering can is probably a better choice to spent your cash than the kitchen.

I already upgraded all my tools to copper, though I am not sure what the effect was on the hoe, it works the same way as it did before, maybe just uses up less energy.

If you hold the use comand down, upgraded hoes and watering cans will act upon a greater area for each level it has. Copper gets a 1x3 plot, Iron 1x5, gold 3x3 and iridum 5x5.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Dron:

Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:

It is Joja Corporation. it is in the wiki -- https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Stardew_Valley_Wiki

You can pay for improvements rather than doing the bundles.

If you don't mind being a corporate lackey.

I forgot about that Joja mall, I almost never go there and it seems counter intituitive to the game plot as you went to the farm to get away from corporate and urban life.

Yeah but, the stardew valley story is already flawed. Concerned ape made pierra and joja have pretty much the same prices. The in game lore is that joja is so cheap poorer people can't not shop there and moris has steep sales thats stealing pierra's customers away.

But weather concerned didn't have faith in people or whatever, he didn't make this the reality in the game.

How many would actually go community center if joja actually did have big sales on seeds now and then?

Joja in game as a store is actually very bland. When does a supermarket store have less varity of things to sell than a small family business?



Anyways, Its not like going joja even takes pierra out. If your great at min/maxing or want to speed run, joja is great. I used to pick them a ton. Via Joja I've beaten the game the first year.

[Dron]

Originally posted by Kaze:

Originally posted by Dron:

I already upgraded all my tools to copper, though I am not sure what the effect was on the hoe, it works the same way as it did before, maybe just uses up less energy.

If you hold the use comand down, upgraded hoes and watering cans will act upon a greater area for each level it has. Copper gets a 1x3 plot, Iron 1x5, gold 3x3 and iridum 5x5.

Ah I did not know that, and don't think anything in game actually hinted that holding down left mouse button would have a different effect. Thanks! I was actually annoyed at first having paid 2000 to upgrade the water can and thinking all it did is I have to fill it up a bit less often than before.

[Dron]

Originally posted by Carpel (Daily Workout):

Originally posted by Dron:

I forgot about that Joja mall, I almost never go there and it seems counter intituitive to the game plot as you went to the farm to get away from corporate and urban life.

Yeah but, the stardew valley story is already flawed. Concerned ape made pierra and joja have pretty much the same prices. The in game lore is that joja is so cheap poorer people can't not shop there and moris has steep sales thats stealing pierra's customers away.

But weather concerned didn't have faith in people or whatever, he didn't make this the reality in the game.

How many would actually go community center if joja actually did have big sales on seeds now and then?

Joja in game as a store is actually very bland. When does a supermarket store have less varity of things to sell than a small family business?



Anyways, Its not like going joja even takes pierra out. If your great at min/maxing or want to speed run, joja is great. I used to pick them a ton. Via Joja I've beaten the game the first year.

Yeah but I don't want to rush to "beat" the game, I just want to play and enjoy it as I go along, so Joja is not for me. And as I said before, the start of the game suggests that the whole point of your character moving to the farm was to start a new life and get away from things like Joja.

The game does not cover many details, but you could assume that Joja's supermarket would be selling typical modern products like GMO filled food, stuffed with preservatives etc, ie stuff that does not taste good and not healthy, while Pierre buys farming produce directly from farmers and resells them.

[Rio]

I mean you don't have to rush with Joja either. Its great in that you never have to build or raise anything you don't want too. Such as not worth it animals or not worth it fruit trees.

And theres no rng required (duck feather/rabbit foot) or waiting a whole year because you forgot that one fish only spawned during the rain that one season.

Like with joja you can beat the game any way you want. Such as beating the game via filling your farm with lightening rods. And only allowing yourself to make money via selling battery packs, Which I've done before lol


Some things in the community center are just SO BAD!!!! they should be unlocked by default. One example is the glittering boulder removal. By the time you've caught all the fish, it lost all use it could ever have. With joja, you can get that unlocked when it might have a slimmer of chance of, almost, not really at all EVER of being worth it. The actual reward should have been you can use the community fish tank to breed fish you catch. Such as eel for spicy eel meals.