Greenhouse completely ruins the game

[Dave1029]

It is so ridicously OP it's not even funny. What makes it OP isn't the fact you can plant year round, but rather the need to never replant. Like... idk it makes things trivial once you have ancient fruit wine in full production. Why plant anything else? Why even plant outside? I'm thinking of foregoing crop planting in there and opt for fruit trees only. One of each and then the rest split between peaches and pomegranates.

[Shurenai]

The greenhouse is one of those things that is only as OP as you make it to be. I personally plant mine with a few of every single type of crop so that I always have some of each available for cooking.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The greenhouse is one of those things that is only as OP as you make it to be. I personally plant mine with a few of every single type of crop so that I always have some of each available for cooking.

If crops died 28 days after maturity it wouldn't be OP at all. It seems like a lack of foresight to be honest.

[Alc]

I don't understand your point. If you think it's op and way too easy, don't use plant like ancient seed. Seriously, nothing is a competition, play like you want. Also, the fact that crops never die and survive any season, that's the point of the Greenhouse.

[Inny【🐭】Nazrin]

I'm. Confused.

Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of the greenhouse.

The earliest you can get the greenhouse is Fall, year 1. You have to work quite hard to get it. And you have to know what you're doing. The average player is not going to get it in their first year.

[HINA <3]

most farming game has greenhouse, its op but not that op, if u tried cover your field with iridium sprinkle then thats real op and ur not gonna notice that little income from that green house tiny mini area

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by MS_OLDHORSE:

most farming game has greenhouse, its op but not that op, if u tried cover your field with iridium sprinkle then thats real op and ur not gonna notice that little income from that green house tiny mini area

It's not so much the income as the fact that you can plant and forget. Just plop ancient fruit in there and you're set for life.

Yeah. It makes farming outside of the greenhouse obsolete.

[dman_dustin]

It's not OP because it has limited space, even if you get the mod that extends the greenhouse, there's just never enough space. Even the mod I use deprives me of the amount of space I would like to have.

Growing seasonal crops outside makes sense, and out of season crops inside, the entire point of a greenhouse in any type of game is the exact reason you see. To grow the crops you want when you want.

It makes no sense for plants to eventually die, because the only reason why "plants" die in the first place is for seasonal reasons, if there was a way to have the perfect seasonal temperature for a long period of time, plants would last far longer, otherwise in real life potatoes (or an actual crop that absolutlely cannot grow in winter) in winter would be likely rotten and cost hundreds of dollar for just one.

And on top of that you are mostly wrong about needing to replant, only continuous plants never have to be replanted, that doesn't apply to pumkins, potatoes, melons and other crops like that.

Tomatoes, ancient fruit, strawberries those types of crops, sure never have to be replanted, because of the crop you use.

To be clear, if all you're doing is planting ancient fruit, you are shooting yourself in the foot, unless you're trying to get hundreds of seed so you can plant them during the right season outside of the greenhouse, using all that space for just Ancient Fruit, would only be useful when you are pretty much done with the game, and are trying to just get money, money money.

One crop greenhouse, really seems like an end game experience to get a whole lot of money, and unless you are done there's literally no reason to start with it.

You have achievements to go through first. Cook all food items, ship 15 of each crop. If you start a game, for the focus of getting a greenhouse and slowly building an all ancient fruit crop (though you will need irridium sprinklers to maximize your potential), then you really are only playing for the money which is entirely your choice after all.

[Seraphita]

Greenhouse is "next level of farming", obviously it's good. It's a freaking green house. You work hard to unlock it, you gain a lot using it. I used it full and I still planted a lot outside for full income.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

The greenhouse is one of those things that is only as OP as you make it to be. I personally plant mine with a few of every single type of crop so that I always have some of each available for cooking.

If crops died 28 days after maturity it wouldn't be OP at all. It seems like a lack of foresight to be honest.

Lets say crops die 28 days from planting, let alone from maturity, all this would do is make the Agriculturalist (10% growth speed perk) slightly more valuable, and make you expend a bit of money and energy plating the field with Deluxe Speedgro on the first of each season, as deluxe speed gro plus agriculturalist lets you get a second harvest within the 28 day period.

You'll still be getting more ancient fruit than you will ever be able to convert into wine and mature to iridium quality due to being able to repeat this 4 times a year, and still be rolling in tons of money. It would be a bit more involved, and a bit less profitable in the overarching scheme, but it would still by far and away be one of the most lucrative options.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by Dave1029:

If crops died 28 days after maturity it wouldn't be OP at all. It seems like a lack of foresight to be honest.

Lets say crops die 28 days from planting, let alone from maturity, all this would do is make the Agriculturalist (10% growth speed perk) slightly more valuable, and make you expend a bit of money and energy plating the field with Deluxe Speedgro on the first of each season, as deluxe speed gro plus agriculturalist lets you get a second harvest within the 28 day period.

You'll still be getting more ancient fruit than you will ever be able to convert into wine and mature to iridium quality due to being able to repeat this 4 times a year, and still be rolling in tons of money. It would be a bit more involved, and a bit less profitable in the overarching scheme, but it would still by far and away be one of the most lucrative options.

It's not that the greenhouse shouldn't be able to make money. It's just why do anything else except spam sleep when you make 140K every 7 days with no need to ever plant anything again. Why fish. Why have animals. Why plant outside.

Edit: I guess my gripe is more with ancient fruit than it is with the greenhouse. It's so ludicrously OP it's not even funny.

[Seraphita]

Why would you spam sleep, though? You can also do that with outside crops but why would you? You ruin the idea of the game. You don't mega sleep, you be friend people, you take care of the animals, you explore dungeons, you etc. If you're at a point where sleep is ONLY solution. Well...

It's time to quit the game...

[hallaloth]

Ancient Fruit Greenhouse is end game as it is. I am crawling through Summer Year 2 on a newer file (after missing year 1 community center by 1 single fish) and I only just have Ancient Seeds starting to grow, been using it for Starfruit and Sweet Gem Berries until I have the seeds for it.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Lets say crops die 28 days from planting, let alone from maturity, all this would do is make the Agriculturalist (10% growth speed perk) slightly more valuable, and make you expend a bit of money and energy plating the field with Deluxe Speedgro on the first of each season, as deluxe speed gro plus agriculturalist lets you get a second harvest within the 28 day period.

You'll still be getting more ancient fruit than you will ever be able to convert into wine and mature to iridium quality due to being able to repeat this 4 times a year, and still be rolling in tons of money. It would be a bit more involved, and a bit less profitable in the overarching scheme, but it would still by far and away be one of the most lucrative options.

It's not that the greenhouse shouldn't be able to make money. It's just why do anything else except spam sleep when you make 140K every 7 days with no need to ever plant anything again. Why fish. Why have animals. Why plant outside.

Why -not- do anything else? By the time you get to the point of being able to do ancient fruit spam in the green house, you're feasibly insanely rich, and have done just about everything in the game anyway.

What does getting 140k a week accomplish when you have maxed house, barns, coops, tools, stores of seeds, stores of hay, stores of every imaginable material, likely have finished most if not all of the community center, and more. Literally the only thing you're doing at this point is ruining your own fun by doing the laziest most pointlessly lucrative money making option possible.

[Dave1029]

Originally posted by Zero:

Why would you spam sleep, though? You can also do that with outside crops but why would you? You ruin the idea of the game. You don't mega sleep, you be friend people, you take care of the animals, you explore dungeons, you etc. If you're at a point where sleep is ONLY solution. Well...

It's time to quit the game...

That's what an ancient fruit greenhouse does to you. You just spam sleep.

[Inny【🐭】Nazrin]

Originally posted by Dave1029:

That's what an ancient fruit greenhouse does to you. You just spam sleep.

Are you seriously saying that you lack the personal willpower and self control?
You're literally complaining about something you're doing to yourself.

You're the reason they have to put [WARNING: THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS PEANUTS] on a jar of peanuts too, isn't it?

You shouldn't need the mechanics of a game to be changed because you can't help yourself from Min Maxing. Here's an idea. See all those Ancient fruit plants? Dig them all up, throw away the seeds. Your problem is solved.