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löyly 2019 年 11 月 7 日 下午 6:33
So I thought this was a non-violent game...
...Because it's so often recommended as one. But you have to fight monsters? WTF? I get that you can argue about the definition, but "doesn't revolve about killing" or "it's just monsters" or "you don't see blood" is a very low standard of "non-violent"..?

-Edit to clarify that I mainly meant to make sure I understood that right (there is mandatory combat?), and vent a bit because yet another game on my wishlist turns out not to be that peaceful after all upon closer inspection... I was close to buying this game several times, and I'd be really annoyed if I'd done so. Now I see that combat is mentioned in the description, so I'm not blaming the devs or anything.
最後修改者:löyly; 2019 年 11 月 7 日 下午 6:57
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CrystalSpirit 2019 年 11 月 7 日 下午 7:19 
Fighting the monsters is mainly only when you go into the mines to get ores and gems, or when you use the wilderness farm. You don't "have" to fight the monsters but that means that you won't be able to use the mines if you want to stay away from fighting them and would instead need to spend a decent amount of gold on the ores from the blacksmith. And if you like to collect everything in the game (I mean doing things such as finishing the bundles for the community center or completing the library collection) I'm pretty sure that you would need to do the combat.

The game is worth it to me at least even with all the combat and you could instead choose to do the Co-Op mode and have someone else do all the mining/fighting in the caves if you don't want to fight the monsters within the game. I hope that my description helped you some with it.
I Kinda Fail 2019 年 11 月 7 日 下午 10:21 
It's possible to reach the bottom of the mines without killing anything, although it is harder. Your sword can "parry", so anything that attacks you bounces off and takes minor damage, if it's a pacifist thing. You can eat an "oil of garlic" item that'll stop the swarms of flying enemies from appearing.

Alternatively, you can go the Joja route, instead of repairing the Community Center, and you'll never have to go in the mines, ever. The quarry unlocked via Joja will replenish 3-5 random rocks per day, so you can use it to slowly gather ore, gems and stone. You can also unlock the ability to pan for ore from the river, although it is somewhat lackluster, along with fishing up treasure chests with ores and bars in them.

You can take the Hilltop farm map, which has a mini quarry, and then unlock the normal quarry later on. The Hilltop farm map will also provide geodes for you, to give artifacts and ore. You need to get 40 artifacts to unlock the sewer, which unlocks a merchant which sells monster parts. It'll be slow, and a bit of a grind, but you CAN do most of the game's content without combat. You can "win" the game, at any rate, even without ever stepping foot in the mines.

- The earth crystals needed for mayo machines can be gained fairly commonly from geodes you get on the Hilltop farm.
- The bars needed for sprinklers can be gotten from panning, fishing chests, geodes, or the quarry.
- Oil makers and lightning rods, which require monster parts, won't be able to be obtained probably until Winter for you, because they require you unlocking a merchant's shop.

The game's still totally worth a try, it'll just be much more of a slow burn. You'll have to grind the quarry for stone and copper ore to level up Mining, and eventually you'll be able to turn all that stone into staircases. You can drop 10 staircases to drop 10 levels in the mines, to "upgrade" your quarry, I think.
Cneq 2019 年 11 月 7 日 下午 11:43 
Yes sir, this is a very violent game.
löyly 2019 年 11 月 8 日 上午 4:32 
Thank you for your helpful replies, CrystalSpirit and I Kinda Fail :) I still don't think I want to start a game with great addiction potential any time soon... but I guess I can inform about there being combat-free options in my "peaceful adventures" curator then.
thelefthorse 2019 年 11 月 8 日 上午 5:38 
引用自 cNeq
Yes sir, this is a very violent game.

{snort}

thanks for making me laugh this morning, cNeq
löyly 2019 年 11 月 8 日 上午 5:46 
Yeah, it's hilarious that some people don't want any violence in their games, and they deserve being made fun of... Also, there's only "not violent" and "very violent". Sigh.
ehyder 2019 年 11 月 8 日 上午 6:38 
I was thinking through the non-combat alternatives, I Kinda Fail was pretty thorough there. The only issues I would add are there are two other combat areas: 1) The Secret Wood, which you can mostly avoid using the Forest Map. There are not a lot of enemies so even if you do have to run in there for a quest you can avoid them, or probably use the Oil since they are pretty low level. The other area is part of the sewers which you need to get through for another quest. Avoiding combat there will be tricky, just because of the numbers. The Garlic Oil might help? I am not sure if the flying bugs in that area are low enough level for the oil to be effective.

I am curious how you will feel about fishing, which is violent in a non-combat way (creatures are killed). Fishing is mostly avoidable since you can purchase/find a lot of the fish you might want for quests.

The bottom line is the game is totally playable without combat. It will be more difficult to gather crafting, and some quest, items. If you want to be completely combat free you might not be able to complete all of the quests, unless someone has other suggestions to avoid the combat/killing.
Sillysally 2019 年 11 月 8 日 上午 9:01 
So my answer to the fighting in the mines was pay my son to get me thru the mines while I paid him in cold hard cash the first time i played this game, now I have accepted the Kill or Be killed or sent home with less belongings at an expense, I delt with it that way, but now have the iridium sword and my aditude has changed. I figured out my answer that way, just a thought
Empyrrean 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 3:52 
引用自 löyly
Yeah, it's hilarious that some people don't want any violence in their games, and they deserve being made fun of... Also, there's only "not violent" and "very violent". Sigh.
I mean, when you post on a public forum airing your obscure tastes, you're pretty much asking for ridicule. It's a pointless endeavor to avoid violent games, you're only doing it to morally grandstand unless you have an actual mental condition that makes you squeamish towards it.
löyly 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 4:18 
引用自 Empyrrean
I mean, when you post on a public forum airing your obscure tastes, you're pretty much asking for ridicule. It's a pointless endeavor to avoid violent games, you're only doing it to morally grandstand unless you have an actual mental condition that makes you squeamish towards it.
Haha wow. Thankfully, you're wrong.
Mark Loring 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 6:28 
Disclaimer: Pixels were harmed during the making of this game!
Too lazy to choose a name 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 6:58 
Yes, they are only pixels.
Spend more than 50 hours to help other pixels,
marry pixels, help some pixels to rebuild some pixels building.
and tell the world this is a sweet game with lot of emotion.

And then you can turn some pixel children into pixel doves and say that is peaceful.

By the way, some people hate the pixel Blacksmith because that pixels followed their pixel wife Emily.

引用自 löyly
...Because it's so often recommended as one. But you have to fight monsters? WTF? I get that you can argue about the definition, but "doesn't revolve about killing" or "it's just monsters" or "you don't see blood" is a very low standard of "non-violent"..?

-Edit to clarify that I mainly meant to make sure I understood that right (there is mandatory combat?), and vent a bit because yet another game on my wishlist turns out not to be that peaceful after all upon closer inspection... I was close to buying this game several times, and I'd be really annoyed if I'd done so. Now I see that combat is mentioned in the description, so I'm not blaming the devs or anything.
I don't think that this is a violent game.
But there is something very horrible in this game.

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Children#Dismissing_Children
Dismissing Children

Children can be dismissed late game by interacting with a dark shrine inside the Witch's Hut. By offering the shrine a Prismatic Shard it will allow players to turn children into doves, making them leave the farm forever. Once dismissed, children are gone for good and cannot be returned. Note, however, that this will open up the possibility of your spouse asking if you want to have children again.
最後修改者:Too lazy to choose a name; 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 7:22
I Kinda Fail 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 9:19 
引用自 löyly
Yeah, it's hilarious that some people don't want any violence in their games, and they deserve being made fun of... Also, there's only "not violent" and "very violent". Sigh.
I do think your viewpoint is silly, but it's still your prerogative, and there's no reason not to respect somebody's preferences when it doesn't negatively affect you at all. I am curious, though, what your criteria is for violence in videogames?

Animal Crossing, for example, is a game all about making friends with animals and designing a home. You can catch fish and give them to a beaver to be eaten while they're still alive, so they definitely suffer. You can catch an octopus in the ocean, despite there being an octopus villager. You can swing your axe at a villager, although it won't hurt them. You can smack them over the head a bunch of times, to which they exclaim in pain, along with shoving them into a pitfall and making them struggle out of a hole in the ground. Would you consider Animal Crossing a violent game? Or what's the criteria?

Again, it's your decision ultimately, but... I don't get it. There's nothing wrong with being a pacifist, but just avoiding combat altogether is strange. Undertale, for example, has combat with enemies, but you can spare all of their lives. It would be like a vegetarian refusing to eat at a restaurant that serves animal products, even though they serve salads, roast vegetables, cauliflower pizza, etc. that the vegetarian can enjoy.
Vinyl Scratch 2019 年 11 月 8 日 下午 11:35 
I mean, technically you don't have to kill anything.
All you miss out on is...well..the mines. Once you know how to make a furnace, you can just buy the materials you need from Clint to upgrade your tools and make equipment.

I'm actually trying to think through my head right now what you actually lose by not going in the mines....
Dwarf Scrolls and the Slime Hutch i guess?
Weizen1988 2019 年 11 月 9 日 上午 4:53 
You can buy everything but irridium, and you can find irridium without killing, its just harder. its also not needed for any bundles, you can also buy the slime and batwings and essences you need. so you absolutely can be a pacifist, its just harder.
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