Hurtful Reviews

[Mesmerrow]

It's sad that Stardew Valley after all the good it has to offer we still have to look at "reviews" like these...

"i wonder why it always exit……please make it able to save the prograss at every time

PS.give me chinese version!!!!!!"

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"Can't grow da kush
420/1000"


"♥♥♥♥ fishing u chance your name to chucklecunts"

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"Garbage trash, made for weeb ♥♥♥♥ers who want to jack off to their anime weeb pillow girls"

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"How the game is step by step

1. Plant Seeds
2. Wait for them to grow
3. Havest them
4. Sell them
5. Buy more seeds
6. Repeat

11/10 IGN would farm again"

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"BEST FARMING SIMULATOR EVER.
Sorry I had to change my rating from positive to negative since it clearly seems that they completely forgot about the ever so promised multiplayer.
When they bring it, I'll change my review back to positive ;D"

While i understand that everyone is free to write a review for whatever game they may own, the fact is that Stardew Valley is not on the same level as say Call of Duty, Battlefield or Grand Theft Auto, triple A game studios/developers with the highest development budgets and levels of promotion, these games have huge fan bases all over the world and got millions to spend on their titles, should one of there games receive less than positive reception they can always afford to mend the issues.
Negative reviews won't even touch these games let alone make a dent, But for an indie game like Stardew Valley (and many other indie games) it's an uppercut for every few hundred stupid negative reviews like these, and there is sadly too many.
There are luckily many more positive reviews then negative at the moment but who says it will stay like this 2 or 4 years from now ?

Now i am not saying we should run for the hills or barricade the doors, all i am trying to communicate is that while there is no immediate threat to Stardew Valley i think we can all agree on that had there been much less or none of these "funny reviews" the games score at least here on steam could have been better and as times goes on there is only going to be more and more of these kinds of "reviews"

This is also not only a Stardew valley issue but a possible problem for many other indie games here on Steam.

This is all to raise awareness about this issue, while Steam could add a feature that won't allow less then say 100 words they haven't done so yet.

[Mesmerrow]

I want to make it extra clear that i am not bashing legit negative reviews, what i dislike is the "funny" or stupid negative reviews, mostly reviews that revolve around a joke or meme of some kind or reviews that only got a few lines of text.

What these people don't realize is that the games rating takes a roundhouse kick each time someone submits a review saying something along the lines of
"game looks good but tastes bad" -Negative review" this hurts smaller games like Stardew Valley, where reviews actually have an impact on how good the game will do.

[dino_inc]

It does have 44k reviews and 97% positive, so it's not really an issue. It by no means a "small game"... but yeah, negative joke reviews are absolutely the worst.

[Mesmerrow]

Well i meant small in the fact that it was developed by a single person in his apartment, and that Stardew Valley is an indie game.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by SlackerBoe:

It doesn't matter in the slightest, but that's steam reviews for you. I've passed on more games because of regulars spazzing on negative reviews than because of the reviews themselves.

I agree it doesn't matter in the slightest, however we are not talking about triple A games here, this is not a game with a huge marketing team behind it and thousands to spend on posters, trailers and what not, this is an indie game made by a single person.
and that goes for every small scale indie game out there, where word of mouth is just as important as actually playing the game.

[Mr. Bear]

It's the same idiots that give positive reviews to those anime visual novels while inserting a dumb joke about their parents being ashamed of them or something like that.

[Muggins]

Originally posted by Pectyl:

…please make it able to save the prograss at every time

XD wut a tw#t, EVEN WRITES LIKE ONE

"Can't grow da kush"

sounds like a russian onion

and even

"BEST FARMING SIMULATOR EVER.
Sorry I had to change my rating from positive to negative since it clearly seems that they completely forgot about the ever so promised multiplayer.
When they bring it, I'll change my review back to positive ;D"

This is , I dont even ...

Originally posted by DarkOmegaMK2:

It's the same idiots that give positive reviews to those anime visual novels while inserting a dumb joke about their parents being ashamed of them or something like that.

+9

[DonTheDon]

Honestly, if a sane person sees those negative reviews like that, its a plus. When I see nothing but nitpicky children on the negative posts it makes me happy to know the games pretty decent.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by SlackerBoe:

Originally posted by Pectyl:

I agree it doesn't matter in the slightest, however we are not talking about triple A games here, this is not a game with a huge marketing team behind it and thousands to spend on posters, trailers and what not, this is an indie game made by a single person.
and that goes for every small scale indie game out there, where word of mouth is just as important as actually playing the game.

It still won't matter at all. Good games overcome neg reviews through patching and gameplay. Bad games do not. The number of people defending the game against negative does not mean anything, it comes down to weather or not the devs put the work in.

CA put the work in and gave us a great single game that is already a MASSIVE success. If a few people are annoyed that he procrastinated MP for years or that it's taking to long to provide quality localization that's not going to hurt the game.

Alright let me try one more time, i am not talking a month or even a year from now, i am talking years, While massive triple A titles can drink all the tears of hate they would like, smaller games like Stardew Valley can't really take hits like these and keep standing in the long run, triple A games can mend the issues of a bad or unpopular game by many means like sequels, dlc or more promotional material. Indie games are kind of on the edge all the time (unless they become the next Minecraft) they don't have the same amount of money to promote their games with 4k resolution, photo-realistic graphics or 100,000 polygons to show off.
Just take a look at No Man's Sky, they failed horribly and not long ago broke the silence and updated the game free of charge with new features, and claim they have many more coming in the future, and people ate it up, they welcomed the updates, so even if No Mans Sky can't reach the height it once got to it has the funding and workforce to maintain and update the game, something i can't see many indie games like Stardew Valley overcome, and why ? because No Man's Sky is a triple A game.

The issue here is that you are not separating Indie from triple A titles, and i can tell you for a fact that these two are not equal.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by DonTheDon:

Honestly, if a sane person sees those negative reviews like that, its a plus. When I see nothing but nitpicky children on the negative posts it makes me happy to know the games pretty decent.

I would love for that to be true, i really would but the truth is that it's not always as simple.
For-example i know people that own games on steam that are overwhelmingly negative on both recent and overall reviews, games that are nearly scam-ish, and i have pointed to that multiple times when the same people suggest me to buy one of these games, however as far as i understand they simply don't care, if the genre and features they seek is there and the games seems interesting enough they buy it despite the countless negative reviews warning against it.

[dino_inc]

Look at how many reviews DOOM, a AAA game, has. http://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/

Now look at how many reviews Stardew Valley has.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/413150

That's right, double. And given that Stardew Valley has a 97% positive rating, do you really think that is going to go down in any way over the following years?

And now look at Terraria. This game is indie, has pixel graphics, nothing too fancy.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/105600/

97% positive, even after being out for years, as well as 163,000 reviews (of which there are naturally plenty of joke reviews).

Joke reviews may be an issue for some indie games, but not for Stardew Valley.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by SlackerBoe:

Originally posted by Pectyl:

Alright let me try one more time, i am not talking a month or even a year from now, i am talking years, While massive triple A titles can drink all the tears of hate they would like, smaller games like Stardew Valley can't really take hits like these and keep standing in the long run, triple A games can mend the issues of a bad or unpopular game by many means like sequels, dlc or more promotional material. Indie games are kind of on the edge all the time (unless they become the next Minecraft) they don't have the same amount of money to promote their games with 4k resolution, photo-realistic graphics or 100,000 polygons to show off.
Just take a look at No Man's Sky, they failed horribly and not long ago broke the silence and updated the game free of charge with new features, and claim they have many more coming in the future, and people ate it up, they welcomed the updates, so even if No Mans Sky can't reach the height it once got to it has the funding and workforce to maintain and update the game, something i can't see many indie games like Stardew Valley overcome, and why ? because No Man's Sky is a triple A game.

The issue here is that you are not separating Indie from triple A titles, and i can tell you for a fact that these two are not equal.

There's no issue. Stardew valley isn't going to magically become unsuccessful in the coming years. It's already sold wonderfully, it's already been ported to console, he's already having interviews with the creator of harvest moon where respect is shown both ways, he's already being interviewed at conventions, the game is already nominated for the steam award, the dev already won a break out dev award.

Caring about steam reviews will always be making mountains out of molehills.

Many other games gathered hype and massive amounts of popularity over time, but failed miserably when the game released or the game updates where tweaked the wrong way and made a mess out of the game one way or another, While this is probably not going to happen to Stardew Valley because of its limited features.
However while the game is doing great now we cannot predict the games future, and this is more of a heads up to potential "funny reviews" and as you stated, now that the game is being ported to consoles, where there is even more eyes on it and even more of a pressure from potential buyers for the game to succeed not only in what it did but what it would do in the coming future.

[L-laine]

I don't know man how about you gift me the game so i can leave a postive review. I recieved nothing on christmas :(

[SapienChavez]

this is one of the highest rated games on Steam. all time.

im not seeing an issue here. if anything, the problem is steam's all-or-nothing review system.

i would give this game a 7/10, if Steam had a deeper scale to use.

also the system is only about "recommending" or not. That is a person-by-person thing. I would recommend this game to a few of my friends, but not all.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by SlackerBoe:

Originally posted by Pectyl:

Many other games gathered hype and massive amounts of popularity over time, but failed miserably when the game released or the game updates where tweaked the wrong way and made a mess out of the game one way or another, While this is probably not going to happen to Stardew Valley because of its limited features.
However while the game is doing great now we cannot predict the games future, and this is more of a heads up to potential "funny reviews" and as you stated, now that the game is being ported to consoles, where there is even more eyes on it and even more of a pressure from potential buyers for the game to succeed not only in what it did but what it would do in the coming future.

Has been ported to consoles. He bombed the launch though, people had to wait two days on the PS4 to play correctly. That would be a death sentance for most games reviews, let's check out the metacrtic: Yup, PS4 reviews still at 8.1! Why? Because it's a quality game. Xbone had to wait longer for their patch so it's not updated yet though.

This isn't a heads up on "funny reviews". This is trying to turn any negative viewpoint into a "funny reviews". Some people are upset that he's taken so long to release MP (which is an feature he announced) and for some reason there's a problem with this? The review you reposted even says it's a great farming game. Why is the dev promised multiplayer a year ago and has yet to deliver, so I'm changing my personal recomendation to no. I fully suspect he will release it, but if he doesn't it there's no way in hell I'm taking the announced features for his next game seriosuly. When he finally releases that sucker, people will know and disregard that review.

Negative review because of no manual save or localization! What's wrong with wanting a feature (manual save) that's been present in the genre for years? What's wrong with being frustrated with a delay? Again, once the localization comes out, people will know and it will become irrelevent. And a neagtive review about no manual saves is only going to affect people who really want manual saves. If that's a huge issue for them, they probably shouldn't buy this game, because it doesn't have them.

And my god, ""Can't grow da kush
420/1000"" As a stoner, I promise you even the person that posted this doesn't take it seriously.

At 97% the only negative reviews you have left is completely ridiculous ♥♥♥♥ and technical problems. The release of localization and Mp will make even more negative reviews obsolete and we'll be down to the crazies and we all know crazy ♥♥♥♥ when we see it.

If you read my first comment it clearly states that this thread is "only" about the "funny reviews" and not about legitimate negative reviews, it seems to me you are trying to find issues where none is, as all this thread really is about is to highlight the potential issues these kinds of reviews create, not only for Stardew Valley but for many other indie titles.
While i won't go into the multiplayer discussion as that's a topic requiring its own thread and have probably been beaten to death as this point, all we can do is sit and wait for Chucklefish to finish that up.
And again to highlight the "main issue" that you seem to not get, this is not about the person behind the "funny review" but his motivation to write one unknowingly adding another negative review to the count and pushing the game further down.
As i have also previously stated, this may not seem like a serious issue for Stardew Valley right now, but we should as a community try to prevent these kinds of negative or for that matter positive "reviews" the ones that make no sense and adds nothing in the form of information or knowledge about said game.

I could have chosen any small scale game on steam to discuss this issue, but it won't matter what game i chose in the end, cause this is not a Stardew Valley issue this is a community issue, and i am trying to highlight said problem that mostly affects new developers as well as indie games.

[Mesmerrow]

Originally posted by Elaine:

I don't know man how about you gift me the game so i can leave a postive review. I recieved nothing on christmas :(

I'll see what i can do within the next few days.