Community Center or Joja Warehouse?

[Samantha Raven]

I was wondering what every one else chose and why.

I Chose Joja Warehouse cause I didn't want to be forced into farming things i didnt want to farm or raising animals i didnt want to have or doing stuff i didn't injoy or hated like the fishing.
I injoy making money and using money to buy stuff so thought it was a far better choice for me and so far happy with it.
As for the community center if any ones to blame for my choice its the mayor lewis for letting it get so bad and not taking neglicting his mayor dutys not my fault I rather be a corperate independent farmer that dosn't mind donating to better help the community using wealth instead of the bundle junk.=P
I still consider my self a local hero even if I never get the achivement for it. =)

But I was wondering what other people chose and why and what made them chose it?
Please share love to read and pick your thoughts on this im new to game but its so fun so addictive and cute super cute<3
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[crigcrag]

Community center has ALOT of rewards and free stuff. Joja is the "dark side" if you know what i mean.

[Pixel Peeper]

I picked Community Center for my first playthrough, of course. The rewards don't even begin to make up for the hassle, but flavor-wise it's much more satisfying.

I'm going to do the Joja route along with my Fishing-only playthrough.

For general playthroughs, I'm generally going to go with the Community Center, but I'm not going to bother completing it since there's no reward for doing so.

For some playthroughs during which I want things that are too much of a hassle to get through the Community Center, I'll pick Joja again.

Shame that "no hassle" mode punishes you by forcing you to help the people who make our lives ♥♥♥♥ IRL. That's a cruel and unusual design choice.

[Samantha Raven]

Originally posted by Tripoteur Ventripotent:

I picked Community Center for my first playthrough, of course. The rewards don't even begin to make up for the hassle, but flavor-wise it's much more satisfying.

I'm going to do the Joja route along with my Fishing-only playthrough.

For general playthroughs, I'm generally going to go with the Community Center, but I'm not going to bother completing it since there's no reward for doing so.

For some playthroughs during which I want things that are too much of a hassle to get through the Community Center, I'll pick Joja again.

Shame that "no hassle" mode punishes you by forcing you to help the people who make our lives ♥♥♥♥ IRL. That's a cruel and unusual design choice.

I guess i have a corperate mind set and consider joja mart makes lifes easyer and much more convenient.

I'm pro corperation tho so i consider the mayor the true villian of this story he let the town center go to disrepair and we didnt sell the community center he did we just bought a member ship...

Thats like the local mayor trying to blackmail u in guilt for his or her own failure to do there job for them...

I was like your the mayor and u let the town center get like this you failed big time and rest of the town falling apart worse....and you have a car and no one else in the town does and you live in the nicest and biggiest house?

then when you chose joja mart memeber ship and the mayor sells the community center...where does the money go not back into the town but into the mayors pocket...and your still left spending your own money rebuilding the town.

so i consider chosing joja mart the better choice in the end cause fixign the community center just serves to accept the mayors own failures and being one of the worst mayors of a town....
Grandpa should rate his score not mine... =P

Any ways i don't consider the Joja mart evil or bad i consider them the good guys that just love money as much as i do but don't mind spreading the wealth to fix stuff and make life better in a town with a terrible corrupted mayor that pockets all the towns money.

Ya im 100% pro joja mart i mean we worked there in the start of the game so the way i see it is in the story wise I open grandpa letter moved to the valley but still maintain my employment at Joja mart and now im like a share stock hold into Joja corperation and have my own branch of a independent farming corperation that I starting up so as a new seperate independent corperation im working with Joja mart to better improve the town and bring wealth into the community.

while also having stock/shares in Joja mart/Member ship investment. =)
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[NotThatHarkness]

In all 3 games I've played so far I always do the CC. I enjoy putting together the bundles and the rewards for completing them are helpful. The only part I hate is the fishing, so I get most of the harder fish from the ♥♥♥♥♥ and tolerate the fishing minigame for the rest. (I've never mastered the fishing skill in SV and never will). I usually end up playing 4-5 years in each game so having to farm a few things I otherwise wouldn't or invest in a few animals just for the CC bundles isn't a big deal for me. I actually prefer to farm a little bit of everything in the first 2 years and tend to only specialize in various crops after year 3.

I like how the story plays out with the CC completion. That's the biggest reason. I'll have to do the Joja Mart route some day though.

[Willow Rivers]

You left Joja and your soul draining life to start new on a farm and you go the Joja route? Nope not gonna happen, community center all the way for me.

[Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry]

the only thing good you get from the cc, is an crystelarium, rewarded for the 25k valt bundle

[sagevallant]

None of the bundle rewards are anything special. The Crystalarium is the only one you can't really craft ahead of completing the bundle reliably, but it's still technically possible. Even when the reward is useful, it's still only like 1 of whatever it is. Neato. If it's useful I probably want a dozen.

Anyway, here's how I see it. You leave Joja because you're not seeing any real benefit for your miserable work. So you set out to have a hard, fun job where you can receive massive rewards for your efforts. In two years time, I could probably buy the Joja Mart location if I so wished. Kind of annoyed that I can't, the extra space for my Kegs would be great.

Speaking of "annoyed", I'm pretty sure Pierre is doing great since I still shop through him and the Oasis almost entirely. He should've made a lot of money off me, even if no one else shops there. Why does the game not reflect that? I should have 10 hearts with him automatically.

[Samantha Raven]

Originally posted by sagevallant:

None of the bundle rewards are anything special. The Crystalarium is the only one you can't really craft ahead of completing the bundle reliably, but it's still technically possible. Even when the reward is useful, it's still only like 1 of whatever it is. Neato. If it's useful I probably want a dozen.

Anyway, here's how I see it. You leave Joja because you're not seeing any real benefit for your miserable work. So you set out to have a hard, fun job where you can receive massive rewards for your efforts. In two years time, I could probably buy the Joja Mart location if I so wished. Kind of annoyed that I can't, the extra space for my Kegs would be great.

Speaking of "annoyed", I'm pretty sure Pierre is doing great since I still shop through him and the Oasis almost entirely. He should've made a lot of money off me, even if no one else shops there. Why does the game not reflect that? I should have 10 hearts with him automatically.

Ya i agree even tho i chose joja mart i perfer and exclusively shop at his store unless hes close then i try joja.

Thats amother huge benafit for chosing Joja mart double the choices and chances to buy items in a day and able to shop when pierce is closed if u chose the community center u lose that option. =P

[Katalia19]

I'm a story-gamer; my character left Joja to start a new life, and would likely have warmed up to Lewis (made stronger by the lingering dislike and fatigue with Joja) by the time he talks about the Community Center. My character would likely forgive the faults you mention, if they even noticed said faults, and would perhaps even come with an anti-Joja agenda for the town.

So, a more writer-ly approach than business/efficiency-minded. (Also, some of the things you mention are standard videogame logic; there's only so much change you can make to the world around you before the dev has to program an entirely new one.)

[sagevallant]

Meh. Town didn't care enough to focus on community in the first place, and the refocus on it probably isn't going to last either regardless of what you do. Community Center is way more work and I quit Joja to take care of myself, not a bunch of strangers I have to bribe twice a week for a year to get them to like me. And I'm doing a lot for the community whether I'm going with bundles or joja projects.

I intend to be a miserly old billionaire who retires to the city for parties and gold-diggers ASAP.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by sagevallant:

Meh. Town didn't care enough to focus on community in the first place, and the refocus on it probably isn't going to last either regardless of what you do. Community Center is way more work and I quit Joja to take care of myself, not a bunch of strangers I have to bribe twice a week for a year to get them to like me. And I'm doing a lot for the community whether I'm going with bundles or joja projects.

Yes, it does sound like you get screwed either way, doesn't it. The game strongly suggests two paths, and both are traps!

That's why I made a thread suggesting not going with either. Unlock the Minecarts and Desert (those are very easy), the Greenhouse if you want it, and just ignore the rest. Best way to play the game.

[Ensign]

I chose joja so i didnt have to be forced into growing a certain crop and remember what i needed to save for the bundles. Im a simple farmer who just wants to live independantly for himself.

Joja hires workers and gets things done in a day when given the money. They are fast, efficient and they think of the people when they work. They do their construction at night so as not to disturb the general comings and goings of the citizens.

The mayor just kinda lets the place go to ruin. Doesnt orginize a cleaning or town event to revitilize the town's spirit and togetherness by fixing the place up. No, he's more concerned with his illicit affair with marnie the animal lady.

Originally posted by red255:

same reason we side with the stormcloaks in skyrim. and burn the institute to the ground in fallout 4.
Because we don't have stockholm syndrome.

its a 'choice' and you are free to 'choose' but its not really a choice you could justify, in any sort of roleplaying perspective.

I dont wanna argue with u i just think your answer is fascinating and i actually can justify it.

I sided with the legion in skyrim for the outfits but after hearing about them wanting to reignite a war with the elves and thier racism against dark elves i said down with the cloakies. Plus the empire lost against the elves who are so huge they made all of the empire sign a treaty so no way tiny skyrim would stand a chance. For what? The worship of talos? They can still pray in their homes. Why make a big deal out of it. Its like china opressing christian citizens in thier borders and they decide to rise up despite china winning the war against the u.s. Its good to stand up for principles but my god the cloakies are gonna get themselves killed especially under ulfrick who is less interested in forming an orginized overthrow of the elves with a powerful coalition and more interested in being a macho meatheaded "skyrim for the nords!" "all other foriegn powers suck we dont need friends" suicide charge.

FO4 i dont really care about the story but from what i gather the institute isnt evil only the ones in charge are. Once you claim the place you can reverse all the horrible policies and be a benefit to boston and the u.s. Stop the synth production, let them go free and colonize the inhospitable areas of the u.s and give the tech to better the lives of the common folk.
Idk. I always go minuteman myself.

This game though. Its not stockholm syndrome. The opening cutscene shows us that life under joja is joyless, soul sucking work. But why is that? Becuase the work is boring and repetative?
Most jobs are. Im a taper (guys who work drywall before the painters but after the hangers) and that is soul sucking repetative work. Does that mean my boss and his company are evil? No.

Its not joja's fault the day to day tasks are so boring. They shouldnt be seen as evil becuase of that. So when i go to joja to fix the town its not stockholm syndrome. They arent evil. That job just sucked and was boring. Will i rely on helping the town with my own two hands to make the money i need to contract joja and thier labor teams to fix the town or will i rely on the power of magical fairy pixies who will hopefully do the work when i bring them enough raw vegetables and trash as tribute?

In one year i got that town center fixed up. Its now a warehouse and will probably put stardew valley on the map as the next burgoning town built up around joja mart. Homes will be built to house its workers, new enterprises will be built to accomodate the new comers, industries will come to supply those enterprises. The little village of stardew valley will naturally grow bigger
and gain town status.

Once joja go out of business replaced by the next big thing the town will find themselves in the center of a bigger town becuase of it. Joja arent nazis. They wont enslave the town. The mom n pop stores will go out of business but thats life. Imagine the blacksmiths who went out of business during the industrial revolution, the artisianal glass makers, the millers, the candlestick makers.

Joja isnt evil. Ive seen no proof of this. Souless workers? I guess every service cooperation is evil then. Becuase most of thier jobs are souless.

[Pixel Peeper]

Corporations like Joja are the driving force behind the absurd wealth disparities that exist today, the production and consumption of useless and unhealthy products over practical and healthy ones, they put pressure on politicians to make bribes legal and then bribe them to pass policies that favor the money-making activities of a few already-ultrarich people over the well-being of the population, and they poison, pollute and generally inflict serious to lethal damage on society, not to mention megagenocide (more than half of currently existing species will be extinct by 2080).

Anyone saying corporations aren't evil is delusional to an unspeakable degree.

[Hina]

I chose the community center because Joja does provide things faster and they're probably cheaper in the long run, I wasn't about to let 2 and a half in game years of trying to complete the bundles go to waste just by paying 5k gold for a membership and keep paying money. To me, it kind of made the gameplay worthwhile and not to mention, it's funny to see Pierre and the joja rep get into a fight. lmao.

On my next save file i'll choose joja for sure though.

[roymaster45]

Originally posted by tygras.kitten.kori:

not to mention, it's funny to see Pierre and the joja rep get into a fight.

To be 100% honest, this is one of the main reasons I'm choosing the community center on my first playthrough.