Greenhouse crop related question

[SouL Prisoner]

So i was checking the wiki and YT videos. I see people recommending to plant Ancient fruit in the greenhouse. But why? Isn't sweet gem berry more worthy crop? Sells like 3-4 times the price. And since it's a greenhouse it would grow in all seasons, right?

[SheepMan]

You can make wine and jelly out of Ancient fruit, which you can't with the Sweet gem berry. With the Artisian proffession you get 2310, 2887, 3465, or 4620 depending on the quaility of the wine
don't forget that the ancient fruit gets new fruit every7 days when it's fully grown

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by CGS SheepMan:

You can make wine and jelly out of Ancient fruit, which you can't with the Sweet gem berry. With the Artisian proffession you get 2310, 2887, 3465, or 4620 depending on the quaility of the wine
don't forget that the ancient fruit gets new fruit every7 days when it's fully grown

But what if my profession is not artisian, then? And Sweet gem berry needs to be re-planted after it's harvest?

[SheepMan]

Originally posted by SouL Prisoner:

Originally posted by CGS SheepMan:

You can make wine and jelly out of Ancient fruit, which you can't with the Sweet gem berry. With the Artisian proffession you get 2310, 2887, 3465, or 4620 depending on the quaility of the wine
don't forget that the ancient fruit gets new fruit every7 days when it's fully grown

But what if my profession is not artisian, then? And Sweet gem berry needs to be re-planted after it's harvest?

even then, in the time that the SGB needs to grow you already got 3 3/7 ancient fruit

[NotThatHarkness]

Sweet gem berry plants only produce one fruit. Then you have to buy more at the ♥♥♥♥♥ and you can't buy in bulk. I suppose you could build up enough seeds to fill the greenhouse with the seed maker, but that would take a lot longer and doesn't seem profitable. The issue with sweet gem berries is just getting enough rare seeds for a full greenhouse. You could always buy from the ♥♥♥♥♥ every Friday and Sunday and plant as many as you can, then fill the rest of the greenhouse with something else. I think she sells 1-5 rare seeds every month except Fall.

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by TreyNutz:

Sweet gem berry plants only produce one fruit. Then you have to buy more at the ♥♥♥♥♥ and you can't buy in bulk. I suppose you could build up enough seeds to fill the greenhouse with the seed maker, but that would take a lot longer and doesn't seem profitable. The issue with sweet gem berries is just getting enough rare seeds for a full greenhouse. You could always buy from the ♥♥♥♥♥ every Friday and Sunday and plant as many as you can, then fill the rest of the greenhouse with something else. I think she sells 1-5 rare seeds every month except Fall.

Doesn't seem that hard to fill the greenhouse. I could convert all the fruits into seeds, expect the gold. Just sell the gold. This way plenty seeds to grow and good amount of money along the way.

The traveling merchant sells rare seeds almost everytime i vist her. Fri and Sun. So 3 seasons x 6. 18 -25 seeds.

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by red255:

Originally posted by SouL Prisoner:

So i was checking the wiki and YT videos. I see people recommending to plant Ancient fruit in the greenhouse. But why? Isn't sweet gem berry more worthy crop? Sells like 3-4 times the price. And since it's a greenhouse it would grow in all seasons, right?

Short answer no.

Long answer ....this is going to be mathy.

so you plant the Ancient fruit you get 116x4 a month. which could be turned into wine of course, but without that is 255200 +quality. 9114 per day

Sweet gem berry, you get 58 crops every 24 days. 7250 per day.

the other 58 need to be fed thru seed makers to reseed the greenhouse.

if you turn the ancient fruit into wine and have artisan its 38280 per day vs 7250 per day

Hmmmm..fine... Btw does the quality of the fruit affect the quality of the wine produced? Like if i used gold fruits, will the wine be gold too?

And somewhat same logic with the sedemaker. Will i get extra seeds if i use gold quality fruit?

[SouL Prisoner]

Ac

Originally posted by red255:

Originally posted by SouL Prisoner:

So i was checking the wiki and YT videos. I see people recommending to plant Ancient fruit in the greenhouse. But why? Isn't sweet gem berry more worthy crop? Sells like 3-4 times the price. And since it's a greenhouse it would grow in all seasons, right?

Short answer no.

Long answer ....this is going to be mathy.

so you plant the Ancient fruit you get 116x4 a month. which could be turned into wine of course, but without that is 255200 +quality. 9114 per day

Sweet gem berry, you get 58 crops every 24 days. 7250 per day.

the other 58 need to be fed thru seed makers to reseed the greenhouse.

if you turn the ancient fruit into wine and have artisan its 38280 per day vs 7250 per day

Actually the important question is will i be benefitted if i sold the ancient fruit's itself and not wine. Comparison wise.

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by red255:

No. quality doesn't matter.

you want stars you'd need casks.

Haven't got that yet. Need to upgrade house. So you keep the wine in the cask?

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by red255:

With artisan, Wine is 2310, gold star ancient fruit with tiller is 907

Only if i get gold.

[Pixel Peeper]

The problem with Ancient Fruit is it's very, very, very slow.

Let's say you get ten Ancient Seeds before your Greenhouse becomes available...

Obtain Greenhouse, plant ten seeds. 10/116 plants running, 0/116 plants producing.
One season later: collect ten fruit, process, plant twenty seeds. 30/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, one week: 50/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, two weeks: 70/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, three weeks: 90/116 growing, 10/116 producing.

Half a year in, second batch starts producing. You finally have a full Greenhouse, but only 30 of 116 plants are producing. 26 of them won't be ready to produce until 3/4 of a year has passed since you started your little project.

Half a year before you start seeing some small profits, and three whole seasons to get to full production? Yikes.

Ancient Fruit works for a long playthrough. But personally, I'll be growing either Starfruit or a combination of Starfruit and Hops.

[SouL Prisoner]

Originally posted by Tripoteur Ventripotent:

The problem with Ancient Fruit is it's very, very, very slow.

Let's say you get ten Ancient Seeds before your Greenhouse becomes available...

Obtain Greenhouse, plant ten seeds. 10/116 plants running, 0/116 plants producing.
One season later: collect ten fruit, process, plant twenty seeds. 30/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, one week: 50/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, two weeks: 70/116 growing, 10/116 producing.
One season, three weeks: 90/116 growing, 10/116 producing.

Half a year in, second batch starts producing. You finally have a full Greenhouse, but only 30 of 116 plants are producing. 26 of them won't be ready to produce until 3/4 of a year has passed since you started your little project.

Half a year before you start seeing some small profits, and three whole seasons to get to full production? Yikes.

Ancient Fruit works for a long playthrough. But personally, I'll be growing either Starfruit or a combination of Starfruit and Hops.

So you're saying go for sweet gem berries? Coz they have somewhat the same problem. Not enough seeds to plant.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by red255:

...so grow starfruit while you are waiting for the ancient fruit to come in.

at least you changed your moniker and are starting with 10 seeds now instead of ...1. and leaving the rest of the field fallow.

Hops is more money/day but way too labor intensive.

10 grown plants can make 40 fruit in a month, which should cover 90 plants yes. delux speed grow can take a week off that. costs 80 on thursdays from the oasis.

so 3 weeks from 10 plants to grow. 3 weeks for 50 fruit, field is full. 30 producing with 6 weeks.

its just 2 weeks shaved off, and its not generally that Important to DO cuz time isnt' really a variable here

but from ten you can fill the field and have them producing in 6 weeks, and producing in 9.

not 8 and 12. If you are in a hurry and going to ♥♥♥♥♥ about it.

Oh no, in that scenario I'd still be using the Greenhouse to grow random things for profit. I have to, because the Ancient Fruit itself will take forever to fill the 116 spaces.

I upped the number of Ancient Seeds to ten to prove how slow it really is. Even in that scenario, and even if you're using DSG, it'll still take more than half a year! And yes, I think that having to wait over half a year just to start full production is worth ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about.

I'll stick with Starfruit, thanks. While the guy with Ancient Fruit is collecting his very first, small harvest, and just starting the expansion process... I'll be counting the gold from my first batch of Starfruit Wine and appreciating how my second batch of 116 fruit is already halfway done. Even without DSG.

The fact is, Ancient Fruit is only good for slow playthroughs.

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by SouL Prisoner:

So you're saying go for sweet gem berries? Coz they have somewhat the same problem. Not enough seeds to plant.

That's right, Sweet Gem Berries are problematic because you can't obtain seeds easily.

The best way is to buy them from the Traveling Cart, which will usually make them cost 1,000g per Seed.

Even the lowest-quality Sweet Gem Berries are worth 3,000g, and because the Seed Maker will only give you an average of two Seeds per Berry, it's like you're paying 1,500g per Berry.

Each Berry is worth 3,000g to 4,500g, but it'll cost you 1,000g to 1,500g for the seed. Factoring that in, each Berry is only worth around 2,000g to 3,000g. And it takes 24 days to grow. And you can't turn it into Wine, which would have been great even if you don't have Artisan because it still would have tripled the crop's value.

The advantage of Sweet Gem Berries, IMO, is that it's super low maintenance. You only need to harvest and re-plant every 24 days, and you don't need to build any Kegs.

You can go with the Berries if you want, just be aware that it's not as lucrative as other crops you could be growing.