Saving Duke; ok to break stealth?

[Valrynn the Dragoness]

So I want to keep Duke alive but I broke stealth in the church section of Volga. Is he still gonna die even though I knocked out everyone?

No shots were fired by me or the enemies, but they got annoyed and began patrolling around, and Anna said I raised hell in the church.

Should I restart the game or am I still clear?

[alex010300]

If no body is dead then you are in the clear.

[primobrainlet]

As long as you didn't shoot anyone who was unarmed, you should be good.

[Jig McGalliger]

If it is hostile, you kill it

[Purin]

You can run around and throw bombs like a jacka but so long no one dies you are good. Just give them all head traumas if youd like

[Dat Zorro]

In the church, you can go on a killing spree as long as you stop once they surrender.

Do they still surrender at the bridge or is it an absolute stealth-section?

[Purin]

Originally posted by UAZ-469:

In the church, you can go on a killing spree as long as you stop once they surrender.

Do they still surrender at the bridge or is it an absolute stealth-section?

I don't think you could kill any fanatics. Plus Church is the easiest Stealth section in this entire game. It takes like 2 mins to sneak and drop into the boat area though >.> Just don't kill fanatic and the trader where you steal boat and you will always save Duke. Killing guards even when they shoot at you first killed Duke for me on my 1st run.

[Dat Zorro]

You can, just don't kill surrendering enemies.

In fact, I shot all fanatics at the church until they surrendered and killed the trader's guards (Due to a botched stealth-attempt), but left the fanatics at the bridge unharmed except knocking them out and still saved Duke.

[Purin]

Originally posted by UAZ-469:

You can, just don't kill surrendering enemies.

In fact, I shot all fanatics at the church until they surrendered and killed the trader's guards (Due to a botched stealth-attempt), but left the fanatics at the bridge unharmed except knocking them out and still saved Duke.

I see, I would love to kill those b@stards kek.

[Olga 1987]

I knocked out most of the zealots in the church and knocked out (not killed) at least 1 surrendering one, did the same with some traders and (if I remember correctly) zealots on the bridge and got the good ending.

[Mogvec]

i was never spoted and still got he bad ending so fun

[Crab Man]

Originally posted by Mogvec:

i was never spoted and still got he bad ending so fun

Bloody same, i knocked out everyone, got good karma points for it even with the flash and the sound
STILL bloody fecking dies

[Olga 1987]

Did you save the villagers (though I didn't save one villager near the high bandit tower in my first playthrough and still got a good ending) and did you bring the guitar and Nastya's teddy bear back?
Or maybe there's something wrong with the bandits, not the zealots: for example, a surrendering bandit was killed, and this triggered the bad ending.

[PhotonReady]

Originally posted by Crab Man:

Originally posted by Mogvec:

i was never spoted and still got he bad ending so fun

Bloody same, i knocked out everyone, got good karma points for it even with the flash and the sound
STILL bloody fecking dies

Man, this was so annoying when it happened to me.

* Only knocked out everyone of the fanatics in the village
* Saved the fanatics in both locations
* Let anyone who surrendered live at all times.
* Overhead the guards at the bridge level talking about me, saying that I let anyone who surrendered live but I killed everyone else (which I absolutely did not because that was a frustrating 20 minutes spent knocking people out.)
* Snuck all the way to the end without killing a single guard and only knocking out the ones I absolutely had to pass
* He somehow still dies.

Screw it. Bye duke, I'm not doing that again.

[Olga 1987]

I've just read a post on another forum that someone shot at local people on a cart at the very beginning of the chapter (right before the "Aurora" stops) and got the bad ending because of this.
Some more surmises:
- The quest about obtaining the guitar and teddy bear (the "Crew's friend" achievement);
- There are 2 another small groups of zealots: a father and a son near the giant bat's nest and 3 zealots not far from the Terminal, providing an electric trial; did you lower your weapon and turn down a flashlight/night vision goggles before approaching them? They say that you had paid respect for their faith if you do so.

Though, I still think that there's a somebody's accidental death (maybe a bandit was hit by a molotov while surrendering (?); I dunno how exactly it can happen) or it's a weird glitch.

[Operation40]

^^ so redonkulous..

there's a line of dialog towards the end of Volga -- "Are we going to go back and kill all the locals? Are any of us really up for that?" ... YES YES YES. a thousand times.. YES please. this freakin game.. "if we can go in silently.." "if we don't make too much noise" ... screw that. I go in guns blazing..