Motives of the communists/facists

[Dungeon Crawler]

I'm kinda confused with the nazies, are these dudes russians or germans of some sort. Isn't everyone russian in this game And whats with the communists, what great vision do they have for the metro?

[alex010300]

It's a fake beliefs, the watcher in the dark (Ex Russian Government) has the Metros factions at each other throats for population control

[Corelious]

Fun fact actual nazis were the german socialist party. Nazi's was a derogatory term for them.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Corelious:

Fun fact actual nazis were the german socialist party. Nazi's was a derogatory term for them.

"National Socialist", not socialist, two very different things. In German it's Nationalsozialistische, "Nazi" for short.

[Corelious]

You know, I disagree. All the explanations for how they were different hinge on the argument that they had a thing for the master race.

Pretty much everything else done was socialist on its face. The arguments are... weak at best hinging on slight differences.

Also, the premise that Nazi's are an issue in the Metro make sense since only 11 were actually executed at the Nuremburg trials. The rest were given asylum in the US and Russia. Their families and friends ended up in Argentina, Ukraine, and several smaller counties.

[Corelious]

Originally posted by alex010300:

It's a fake beliefs, the watcher in the dark (Ex Russian Government) has the Metros factions at each other throats for population control

Ironic given the actual state of geopolitics today? It would appear we the people are not as useful as we once were.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Corelious:

You know, I disagree. All the explanations for how they were different hinge on the argument that they had a thing for the master race.

Pretty much everything else done was socialist on its face. The arguments are... weak at best hinging on slight differences.

The Nazis were extremely anti-socialist and anti-communist. Quite famously any genuine socialists in positions of authority were purged by the SS during the Night of the Long Knives on Hitler's order. The Nazis are far-right fascists, not left-wing socialists.

[Corelious]

Originally posted by O.Gefr.Löring.363VD:

Today the word "Nazi" is an idiosyncrasy of the old meaning.

While before and in WW2 it described specifically the memebers and followers of Nationalsocialism, today its often used to describe people who are overly patriotic or partially racist towards others e.g.

That being said, the originally meaning doesnt necessarily included racism. Everybody who knows a bit about history can see that the Nazis back then had lots of allies in foreign countries and cultures but they also were kinda racist towards slawic culture specifically.

Nowadays though, western media especially and uneducated people are using this word inflationary for everything they dislike and so the original meaning got watered down.

A real Nazi is definitely partially racist, but not every racist is necessarily a Nazi. One thing is a general attitude towards foreign cultures, the other thing is a political system and ideology.

Excellent points.

[Jig McGalliger]

The 3rd reich was effectively a xenophobic kleptocracy and did not exhibit the socialist ideals defined by famous German philosopher Karl Marx.

[98.7]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by Corelious:

You know, I disagree. All the explanations for how they were different hinge on the argument that they had a thing for the master race.

Pretty much everything else done was socialist on its face. The arguments are... weak at best hinging on slight differences.

The Nazis were extremely anti-socialist and anti-communist. Quite famously any genuine socialists in positions of authority were purged by the SS during the Night of the Long Knives on Hitler's order. The Nazis are far-right fascists, not left-wing socialists.

Ah yes, the socialist in National Socialist is just there for the lol's.

Hitler was a socialist, the Ostfront was a leftist civil war. You will argue with me, but I will not respond. I know I'm right.

[gk4stalker]

This is not surprising, since the two most dangerous totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century - fascism and National Socialism - were in close contact for a long time, exerting a noticeable influence on each other. It is reported by "The Rambler". Further: https://news.rambler.ru/other/38743048/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by 98.7:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

The Nazis were extremely anti-socialist and anti-communist. Quite famously any genuine socialists in positions of authority were purged by the SS during the Night of the Long Knives on Hitler's order. The Nazis are far-right fascists, not left-wing socialists.

Ah yes, the socialist in National Socialist is just there for the lol's.

Hitler was a socialist, the Ostfront was a leftist civil war. You will argue with me, but I will not respond. I know I'm right.

And I suppose you think that North Korea, aka the “Democratic People's Republic of Korea” is actually a democratic republic just because they call it that. Nazis also called themselves the master race and claimed all other races were inferior, clearly you must think that too, since that’s what they said they were.

Maybe you shouldn’t just believe whatever authoritarian propagandists say. Hitler and his cronies were fascists, this is universally accepted by historians of today. The Nazi party may have had genuine socialists among its number when it was founded but Hitler ultimately had these purged. The socialist part of the name was just for show, propaganda.

[george.atkinsontm]

Originally posted by Eugene818Cøld:

Originally posted by george.atkinsontm:

Tell us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda without telling us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda. Socialism, Antifa and BLM are nothing like those extremists. Such an idiotic argument that shows pure political ignorance. Trying to gain equality for groups of people doesn't make them fascist or commie, its makes them them the opposite.

He said everything correct, nazies and commies were socialists. Blm and antifa are literal extremists, you're zombie if don't see it.

How can nazi and commies both be socialists? Are you simple?

[☽ Eugene Cøld ☾]

Originally posted by george.atkinsontm:

How can nazi and commies both be socialists? Are you simple?

If you read anything in your life, you would know that socialism is the first step toward achieving communism. And the National Socialists were building German socialism with a strong social policy. Both ideologies deny the individual in favor of the collective. In any case, it doesn't really matter, because using the right political compass, you'll find that both Nazis and Commies stand side by side.

[AnimeIsForIncels]

Originally posted by george.atkinsontm:

Originally posted by Don't Overthink It Kids:

Nazi, Communist, Socialist, KKK, ANTIFA, BLM...

The details you bicker over don't matter in the end.
They all focus on eliminating freedom.

But you are gamers. Slaves to a toy.
"Those that had done nothing, do not notice their chains"

Tell us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda without telling us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda. Socialism, Antifa and BLM are nothing like those extremists. Such an idiotic argument that shows pure political ignorance. Trying to gain equality for groups of people doesn't make them fascist or commie, its makes them them the opposite.

BLM Literally Burned down entire blocks of many American cities not to mention the dozens of people they killed. Same goes for Anti-fa. Had another terrorist radicalized by BLM lies attack a Brooklyn subway yesterday.

[Jig McGalliger]

Originally posted by Eugene818Cøld:

the National Socialists were building German socialism with a strong social policy.

For only ethnic white people while slaughtering and pillaging people of color and ethnic religions they don't agree with. That isn't socialism, that's a kleptocracy.