Motives of the communists/facists

[Dungeon Crawler]

I'm kinda confused with the nazies, are these dudes russians or germans of some sort. Isn't everyone russian in this game And whats with the communists, what great vision do they have for the metro?

[Jig McGalliger]

These are Russians that subscribe to the ideals of Naziism which is why they call themselves the 4th reich. Not all Nazis are from Germany.

The reds/communist subscribe to the ideals of soviet styled communism.

The game is drooling in geopolitical conflict... if you couldn't tell by now.

[Muh macht die Kuh]

Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:

These are Russians that subscribe to the ideals of Naziism which is why they call themselves the 4th reich. Not all Nazis are from Germany.

The reds/communist subscribe to the ideals of soviet styled communism.

The game is drooling in geopolitical conflict... if you couldn't tell by now.

actually, nazis is only fitting for germans:
"belonging to or connected with the National Socialist party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945" - oxford dictionary

"nazis" from other countries are either called nationalist, racist or anti-semitic, depending on their political orientation

[Jig McGalliger]

Nazism didn't die when the 3rd Reich died.

Tell me you know nothing about history without telling me you know nothing about history.

[Bishop-Six]

Today the word "Nazi" is an idiosyncrasy of the old meaning.

While before and in WW2 it described specifically the memebers and followers of Nationalsocialism, today its often used to describe people who are overly patriotic or partially racist towards others e.g.

That being said, the originally meaning doesnt necessarily included racism. Everybody who knows a bit about history can see that the Nazis back then had lots of allies in foreign countries and cultures but they also were kinda racist towards slawic culture specifically.

Nowadays though, western media especially and uneducated people are using this word inflationary for everything they dislike and so the original meaning got watered down.

A real Nazi is definitely partially racist, but not every racist is necessarily a Nazi. One thing is a general attitude towards foreign cultures, the other thing is a political system and ideology.

[Bishop-Six]

Originally posted by Muh macht die Kuh:

Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:

These are Russians that subscribe to the ideals of Naziism which is why they call themselves the 4th reich. Not all Nazis are from Germany.

The reds/communist subscribe to the ideals of soviet styled communism.

The game is drooling in geopolitical conflict... if you couldn't tell by now.

actually, nazis is only fitting for germans:
"belonging to or connected with the National Socialist party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945" - oxford dictionary

"nazis" from other countries are either called nationalist, racist or anti-semitic, depending on their political orientation

Not correct. Also people from other nations were Nazis, e.g. Vichy France collaborateurs and many others.

[3/4 MILE, CALL THE BALL]

Nazi, Communist, Socialist, KKK, ANTIFA, BLM...

The details you bicker over don't matter in the end.
They all focus on eliminating freedom.

But you are gamers. Slaves to a toy.
"Those that had done nothing, do not notice their chains"

[Jig McGalliger]

Originally posted by Don't Overthink It Kids:

Nazi, Communist, Socialist, KKK, ANTIFA, BLM

One (three) of these things are not like the others...

[george.atkinsontm]

Originally posted by Don't Overthink It Kids:

Nazi, Communist, Socialist, KKK, ANTIFA, BLM...

The details you bicker over don't matter in the end.
They all focus on eliminating freedom.

But you are gamers. Slaves to a toy.
"Those that had done nothing, do not notice their chains"

Tell us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda without telling us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda. Socialism, Antifa and BLM are nothing like those extremists. Such an idiotic argument that shows pure political ignorance. Trying to gain equality for groups of people doesn't make them fascist or commie, its makes them them the opposite.

[☽ Eugene Cøld ☾]

Originally posted by george.atkinsontm:

Originally posted by Don't Overthink It Kids:

Nazi, Communist, Socialist, KKK, ANTIFA, BLM...

The details you bicker over don't matter in the end.
They all focus on eliminating freedom.

But you are gamers. Slaves to a toy.
"Those that had done nothing, do not notice their chains"

Tell us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda without telling us your are a trumptard who fell for American right wing propaganda. Socialism, Antifa and BLM are nothing like those extremists. Such an idiotic argument that shows pure political ignorance. Trying to gain equality for groups of people doesn't make them fascist or commie, its makes them them the opposite.

He said everything correct, nazies and commies were socialists. Blm and antifa are literal extremists, you're zombie if don't see it.

[Jig McGalliger]

Originally posted by Eugene818Cøld:

He said everything correct, nazies and commies were socialists. Blm and antifa are literal extremists, you're zombie if don't see it.

Communists were socialists? Since when? They're clashing ideologies. WTF are you smoking?

Sure, blm and antifa are mostly at a "leftist" end of what the pundits want you to think is a modern political spectrum... if you actually believe that politics can be dumbed down to just two polarities.

Being an "extremist" isn't inherently bad in any way. Any notable political activist is an extremist in their own right.

Just like, what??? Sign off people, sign off.

[Khorne Flakes]

Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:

Originally posted by Eugene818Cøld:

He said everything correct, nazies and commies were socialists. Blm and antifa are literal extremists, you're zombie if don't see it.

Communists were socialists? Since when? They're clashing ideologies.

Originally posted by Jig McGalliger:

Being an "extremist" isn't inherently bad in any way. Any notable political activist is an extremist in their own right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA&ab_channel=AzusaNakano
Alright lol decent troll, you put in the work and earned those 200 points! Don't spend it all on one place.

[biohazardbattle]

Originally posted by O.Gefr.Löring.363VD:

Today the word "Nazi" is an idiosyncrasy of the old meaning.

While before and in WW2 it described specifically the memebers and followers of Nationalsocialism, today its often used to describe people who are overly patriotic or partially racist towards others e.g.

That being said, the originally meaning doesnt necessarily included racism. Everybody who knows a bit about history can see that the Nazis back then had lots of allies in foreign countries and cultures but they also were kinda racist towards slawic culture specifically.

Nowadays though, western media especially and uneducated people are using this word inflationary for everything they dislike and so the original meaning got watered down.

A real Nazi is definitely partially racist, but not every racist is necessarily a Nazi. One thing is a general attitude towards foreign cultures, the other thing is a political system and ideology.

Personally, it seems to me, that Nazism does not give an opportunity to earn money. Save up money, and get something, that is not meant for you. That is, you will have money, but they will not sell you the goods for them and will not provide a service. Ukrainian Nazism is different in that they will take this money from you, that is, it is predatory. While European Nazism is ideological, since they won't take money from you.
Roughly speaking, a Russian came to Ukraine, bought an apartment, paid the money, but the housing was not sold to him, and the money was not returned. And they point out to him, that he should get out of Ukraine to Russia. That's the main problem, as it were. That is, it's just a pretext for robbery, so to speak.

[Ghostlight]

Originally posted by Dungeon Crawler:

I'm kinda confused with the nazies, are these dudes russians or germans of some sort. Isn't everyone russian in this game And whats with the communists, what great vision do they have for the metro?

Don't bother. This game has perhaps the most inane and stupid plot I have ever experienced. We are told the war is not over and the enemy forces have occupied Russia, yet they have not discovered Moscow playing dead with its ring of radio jammers? Did they just decide to not look? HA ah ah a hah a a ha ha ha a aha ha.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

Originally posted by Dungeon Crawler:

I'm kinda confused with the nazies, are these dudes russians or germans of some sort. Isn't everyone russian in this game And whats with the communists, what great vision do they have for the metro?

Don't bother. This game has perhaps the most inane and stupid plot I have ever experienced. We are told the war is not over and the enemy forces have occupied Russia, yet they have not discovered Moscow playing dead with its ring of radio jammers? Did they just decide to not look? HA ah ah a hah a a ha ha ha a aha ha.

The war isn't back on, it's all a lie and the radio jammers are to prevent people from calling out, not to play dead to an enemy that in reality no longer exists.

[Jig McGalliger]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

The war isn't back on, it's all a lie and the radio jammers are to prevent people from calling out, not to play dead to an enemy that in reality no longer exists.

This.

There may be sects of leftover government officials controlling small "pockets" of civilization that could span multiple cities (almost think death stranding lol) in certain parts of the world, but clearly this is not the case in Russia (at least from Moscow and to the east) which could be attributed to the radio "turtling" that Hansa does... on top of the radiation.

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